M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[damo666]

How many mafia do you think would have also listed obv town chaqa as town?

At least 2

ah okay so you do think there are grounds for scumreading sweet and Jamie then

Sweet's shenanigans could be scum play - 20%
Jamie - unsure - 25%?

[damo666]

You guys still want to kill food after that assless chaps quip? I don't.

I am feeling ambivalent.

##vote rdrivera. I have him at Null. But I feel like I will have him at Null seven days from now as well. Let's do a solid for future Balki, and maybe he is scum.

scummy, and probably setting up town!rdr for a miskill/misshot eventually

rdr shifting townwards

[damo666]

Since I put Demon as town he has disparu. Please come back.

[brainbomb]

So sweet is doing the equivalent of townslipping for not being Desperado? "not-Desperado slipping"? Sounds fake.
Anyways, I'm going to stay on sweet for now. I'm not completely up to date on the thread, but sweet is more scummy than food from what I've read.

##vote Dip

bad damo, bad

##VOTE DiplomacyandWarfare

Does that mean you town read DiplomacyandWarfare, and if so, why?

No, I don't. I should have included him in that list of "how is he not null"?

Why didn't you question this:

Hi! I definitely did not lose track of the start date for this game! Bunny is being way more active than usual according to the bot and so I will

##VOTE BUNNYGO

Do you think that statement was factually accurate?

How about DiplomacyandWarfare as a counter wagon?

foodcoats (6) Flav, lfischl, Vecna, Chaqa, Bunny, kotp
worcej (4) sweet, Jamie, Dip, President Eden
Jamiet99uk (2) worcej, Balki
Diplomacyand Warfare (2) damo, bozo
FlaviusAetius (1) Demon
Hamilton Brian (1) Ham
sweetandcool (1) food
damo666 (1) rdr
President Eden (1) brainbomb

##VOTE WORCEJ

Probably the best play today is killing Food and if he flips scum someone just shoot Dip.

I think studying the dip wagon creation I find bozo to be the most likely to have been town for doing it. Bozo actually found reasons to want that wagon.

At the time the wagon on food was heavily town loaded so scum would like to reside other places.

sweet now busses balki
jamie is building up a worcej wagon
and last scum kotp is on the food wagon just living his best life
and balki busses Jamie just in case everyone shifts over to Jamie

[sweetandcool]

Eden and Balki are the miscreants.

I have a few pairs in my head as possible. The one I want to explore right now is Food-Eden, but there are also Balki-Jamie (based off Bozo's post earlier) and worcej-damo (mostly due to Damo's weird probtown read on worcej)

I actually just realized worcej is Town, while making my reads list.

##VOTE Balki for now, though I need to keep considering who to actually vote for.

@sweet, why'd you shoot worcej?

This was when I was scumreading Dip. My Town read of worcej was contingent on that.

I mentioned why in my post after my claim, I believe.

Basically he was reminding me of last game.

[Jamiet99uk]

It certainly seems like Jamie was trying to court chaqa into making a mistake on bozo, or on you. I say this because I consider chaqa being listed as top town by sweet, Jamie, and Balki all to be an agenda.

Now damo, you ALSO listed chaqa as top town, and I do not consider you part of this agenda. And the reason I dont is because Jamie tried to use chaqa against you, and tried to wagon you.

This was only after casing Bozo, seeing it go nowhere mostly, and chaqa changing his mind about bozo.

I wanted Chaqa to vote for Bozo because I townread Chaqa and I scumread Bozo. Then when nobody would go for Bozo I wanted to flip Damo because I scumread Damo.

Then we got Eden's big reveal.

[brainbomb]

The thing about this game being ultra-swingy could probably move certain players to play differently than they normally would.

-Balki has been very under the radar and Ive not really seen him try to solve anyone the way he did when I was scum. He's doing the thing I do where he judges and comments, rather than prods and experiments. Plus, he has not called anyone servile to rile them up.

-Chaqa did that very good post, that might have totally fooled me spectacularly. However, if he really had already gotten to the point of having such a good oversight, where was LEADER CHAQA that we have seen in the past when he was super involved. If Chaqa is scum, this will probably be the first time in history he does not N1 me because they probably dont wanna use their 1 NK right now.

-Rdrivera was actually more active and had way more attractive opinions than he normally does. He also seemed to be afraid of getting killed early for some reason, which never ever happens.

-Jamiet actually did not really get angry even though there was plenty of reason for it to happen. I might have to revisit my initial gutsensation of his progression 1-2-3 not making sense.

-Sweet has really used his gimmick as a shield to not really actually interact with the game and solve it. I did really like that big wallpost he did explaining his shit though, but im not sure if its enough.

this is the post that got vecna nightkilled.

he names the vast majority of the mafia team here in Jamie, Sweet, and Balki. the only scum he misses in the process is Kotp who stayed relatively UTR or in vecnas TRs.

Vecna explains exactly why Balki, Sweet, and Jamie are each mafia, ignoring their posturing and bussing. This then prompts Balki and team to need to kill Vecna, and the following day also go a step further, to double down on EACH other as it were. Knowing guns may be in play sweet is deemed the team sacrifice, where they falsely assume that multiple town might just shoot sweet. So their goal is to case sweet, and put multiple mafia on sweet most of the day.

As the day goes along, Balki and Jamie both lose their appetite for the process seeing only brainbomb and bunny join the sweet bait. At that point Jamie who probably had the gun is trying to choose between killing bunny or killing sweet. (my guess based on how Jamie indented his posts weirdly on those two).

Each scum also sets aside a preferred miskill they think they can get, and a towny they think they can manipulate. Jamie thinks chaqa is able to be steered, so jamie tries to steer chaqa onto bozo, and tries to also feed chaqas distrust of damo.

sweet tries to feed the collective distrust of brainbomb and of lfischl.

while Balki tries to make jamie and sweet look good by bussing them.

all the while, KOTP is just laying low, doing what he does best. occasionally show up to make a bland string of questions, leave abruptly and never discuss much else

[Jamiet99uk]

The thing about this game being ultra-swingy could probably move certain players to play differently than they normally would.

-Balki has been very under the radar and Ive not really seen him try to solve anyone the way he did when I was scum. He's doing the thing I do where he judges and comments, rather than prods and experiments. Plus, he has not called anyone servile to rile them up.

-Chaqa did that very good post, that might have totally fooled me spectacularly. However, if he really had already gotten to the point of having such a good oversight, where was LEADER CHAQA that we have seen in the past when he was super involved. If Chaqa is scum, this will probably be the first time in history he does not N1 me because they probably dont wanna use their 1 NK right now.

-Rdrivera was actually more active and had way more attractive opinions than he normally does. He also seemed to be afraid of getting killed early for some reason, which never ever happens.

-Jamiet actually did not really get angry even though there was plenty of reason for it to happen. I might have to revisit my initial gutsensation of his progression 1-2-3 not making sense.

-Sweet has really used his gimmick as a shield to not really actually interact with the game and solve it. I did really like that big wallpost he did explaining his shit though, but im not sure if its enough.

this is the post that got vecna nightkilled.

he names the vast majority of the mafia team here in Jamie, Sweet, and Balki. the only scum he misses in the process is Kotp who stayed relatively UTR or in vecnas TRs.

Vecna explains exactly why Balki, Sweet, and Jamie are each mafia, ignoring their posturing and bussing. This then prompts Balki and team to need to kill Vecna, and the following day also go a step further, to double down on EACH other as it were. Knowing guns may be in play sweet is deemed the team sacrifice, where they falsely assume that multiple town might just shoot sweet. So their goal is to case sweet, and put multiple mafia on sweet most of the day.

As the day goes along, Balki and Jamie both lose their appetite for the process seeing only brainbomb and bunny join the sweet bait. At that point Jamie who probably had the gun is trying to choose between killing bunny or killing sweet. (my guess based on how Jamie indented his posts weirdly on those two).

Each scum also sets aside a preferred miskill they think they can get, and a towny they think they can manipulate. Jamie thinks chaqa is able to be steered, so jamie tries to steer chaqa onto bozo, and tries to also feed chaqas distrust of damo.

sweet tries to feed the collective distrust of brainbomb and of lfischl.

while Balki tries to make jamie and sweet look good by bussing them.

all the while, KOTP is just laying low, doing what he does best. occasionally show up to make a bland string of questions, leave abruptly and never discuss much else

The confirmation bias in this post is off the scale.

[brainbomb]

As the day goes along, Balki and Jamie both lose their appetite for the process seeing only brainbomb and bunny join the sweet bait. At that point Jamie who probably had the gun is trying to choose between killing bunny or killing sweet. (my guess based on how Jamie indented his posts weirdly on those two).


This was intended to say choose between killing bunny or killing worcej.

apologies for the typo.

and yes, I am accusing Jamie of being a mafia gunman who shot worcej

[brainbomb]

The thing about this game being ultra-swingy could probably move certain players to play differently than they normally would.

-Balki has been very under the radar and Ive not really seen him try to solve anyone the way he did when I was scum. He's doing the thing I do where he judges and comments, rather than prods and experiments. Plus, he has not called anyone servile to rile them up.

-Chaqa did that very good post, that might have totally fooled me spectacularly. However, if he really had already gotten to the point of having such a good oversight, where was LEADER CHAQA that we have seen in the past when he was super involved. If Chaqa is scum, this will probably be the first time in history he does not N1 me because they probably dont wanna use their 1 NK right now.

-Rdrivera was actually more active and had way more attractive opinions than he normally does. He also seemed to be afraid of getting killed early for some reason, which never ever happens.

-Jamiet actually did not really get angry even though there was plenty of reason for it to happen. I might have to revisit my initial gutsensation of his progression 1-2-3 not making sense.

-Sweet has really used his gimmick as a shield to not really actually interact with the game and solve it. I did really like that big wallpost he did explaining his shit though, but im not sure if its enough.

this is the post that got vecna nightkilled.

he names the vast majority of the mafia team here in Jamie, Sweet, and Balki. the only scum he misses in the process is Kotp who stayed relatively UTR or in vecnas TRs.

Vecna explains exactly why Balki, Sweet, and Jamie are each mafia, ignoring their posturing and bussing. This then prompts Balki and team to need to kill Vecna, and the following day also go a step further, to double down on EACH other as it were. Knowing guns may be in play sweet is deemed the team sacrifice, where they falsely assume that multiple town might just shoot sweet. So their goal is to case sweet, and put multiple mafia on sweet most of the day.

As the day goes along, Balki and Jamie both lose their appetite for the process seeing only brainbomb and bunny join the sweet bait. At that point Jamie who probably had the gun is trying to choose between killing bunny or killing sweet. (my guess based on how Jamie indented his posts weirdly on those two).

Each scum also sets aside a preferred miskill they think they can get, and a towny they think they can manipulate. Jamie thinks chaqa is able to be steered, so jamie tries to steer chaqa onto bozo, and tries to also feed chaqas distrust of damo.

sweet tries to feed the collective distrust of brainbomb and of lfischl.

while Balki tries to make jamie and sweet look good by bussing them.

all the while, KOTP is just laying low, doing what he does best. occasionally show up to make a bland string of questions, leave abruptly and never discuss much else

The confirmation bias in this post is off the scale.

And yet. its the answer.

[Jamiet99uk]

As the day goes along, Balki and Jamie both lose their appetite for the process seeing only brainbomb and bunny join the sweet bait. At that point Jamie who probably had the gun is trying to choose between killing bunny or killing sweet. (my guess based on how Jamie indented his posts weirdly on those two).

This was intended to say choose between killing bunny or killing worcej.

apologies for the typo.

and yes, I am accusing Jamie of being a mafia gunman who shot worcej

I have not fired any shots so far in this game.

[brainbomb]

then perhaps your weird indentations were advice to KOTP on which was more likely your sherriff read between bunny and worcej.

[Jamiet99uk]

So Brainbomb just to be clear you think based on Vecna's work, that I am scum with Sweet and Rdrivera?

And you actually think my interactions with Sweet have been scum theatre?

[brainbomb]

its probably the least important speculation of all of the post. so no need to dive into it.

the rest of the case holds water and is the answer to the current game

[Jamiet99uk]

then perhaps your weird indentations were advice to KOTP on which was more likely your sherriff read between bunny and worcej.

What "weird indentations"?

I do not actually understand what you're referring to here.

[brainbomb]

So Brainbomb just to be clear you think based on Vecna's work, that I am scum with Sweet and Rdrivera?

And you actually think my interactions with Sweet have been scum theatre?

No. I beleive vecna identified all of the scumteam other than KOTP.

you
Balki
sweet

[Jamiet99uk]

So Brainbomb just to be clear you think based on Vecna's work, that I am scum with Sweet and Rdrivera?

And you actually think my interactions with Sweet have been scum theatre?

No. I beleive vecna identified all of the scumteam other than KOTP.

you
Balki
sweet

You actually think I've been playing scum theatre with Sweet all this time though?

[brainbomb]

I do.

[sweetandcool]

its probably the least important speculation of all of the post. so no need to dive into it.

the rest of the case holds water and is the answer to the current game

It's unfortunately incorrect. I think Flav must pay for his crimes. Working on a case. I think you might be off track with Jamiet, but perhaps you are correct, I'll have to examine him. Pirate is 100% scum, so that's good.

[sweetandcool]

So you are saying scum shot Eden and worcej while Town shot Chaqa?

Are you claiming?? Because no way Town shoots Chaqa, and no way Mafia shoots worcej. Mafia would have shot Chaqa or even brainbomb before considering worcej. That's preposterous.