M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[ghug]

We're looking for a ghug voter D2 that hammered damo D3.

Vecna, worc, or sweet.

Maybe even Chaqa

Or it's ghug who was voting the one person that wasn't either of the remaining scum.

Doubt it. ghug was trying to pull me out of the damo tunnel and pitch me aaro at the end of N2. Pretty sure that doesn't happen if he knows aaro is going over.

Plus ghug is True Blue Certified

Yeah ghug's reads are too shitty to be scum.

[ghug]

I have a few points in favor of Ghug being scum.

1. Damo didn't vote him until he could tie. On d2, Damo flittered his vote around all of the possible wagons, except ghug. He pushed on everyone else and tried to start some wagons, but never anything on Ghug. That's odd. If he'd pushed for Ghug earlier, he might have been the difference maker. I think he was scared of bussing his last teammate and being forced to win alone.
2. People have been feeling weird about Ghug since d1. Lots of people, many of whom we now know must be town (due to PoE, there's only 1 scum remaining), have felt similarly. This kind of collective unease is relevant imo.
3. Ghug's (D3, before the flip) defense of my (d2) push on Damo feels slightly odd again.

I have 2 major points in favor of Ghug being town.
1. Of the remaining players, only 1 is Scum. That gives me bad odds a priori.
2. I suck at scumhunting, and I'm only ever successful at sheeping better player's reads, so it's kinda crazy anyone would ever listen to me lol.

Point 1 I'd like you to go back and read how blatantly he defended me D1 and tell me if he'd really do that to a teammate.
Point 2 has historically been a sign of town ghug.
Point 3, I was pretty confident damo was scum there and I specifically thought flipping you before him was stupid because we were always going to kill damo at some point.

[ghug]

Anyone get the feeling ghug was using D3 as an opportunity to push a sweetandcool MK?

Maybe it's hogwash and VCA amongst other things will clear him when I analyze it, but he seems hellbent on being suspicious.

I mean, if you're town that's probably a fair thought. Something just clicked for me catching up, though. I still need to look at your voting history to see if it makes any sense but it really felt like you were pushing an agenda with the posting towards the end of the night onwards.

[brainbomb]

Idk I'm gonna ##vote Vecna. I kinda feel like everyone who's online right now is town.

we should kill damo or kakkarot imo

[sweetandcool]

Anyone get the feeling ghug was using D3 as an opportunity to push a sweetandcool MK?

Maybe it's hogwash and VCA amongst other things will clear him when I analyze it, but he seems hellbent on being suspicious.

I mean, if you're town that's probably a fair thought. Something just clicked for me catching up, though. I still need to look at your voting history to see if it makes any sense but it really felt like you were pushing an agenda with the posting towards the end of the night onwards.

I look forward to having someone other than brainbomb making a case on me. Honestly, other than my successful votes (unless you count the miserable D2 tie failure ): ), I'm a bit surprised I haven't seriously been scumread yet.

I keep acting very playful and just downright weird compared to M79 and M80.

[ghug]

GHUG IS MY BROTHER IN ARMS AND I WILL DEFEND HIM TO THE END.

...which hopefully ain't at phase change.

Why RHK is defending me so vehemently is a question you all will likely have to answer after I have been miskilled, but currently I am a big fan.

[brainbomb]

Chaqa (3): ghug, brainbomb, damo666
Hamilton Brian (3): Chaqa, rdrivera2005, Jamiet99uk
ghug (2): worcej*, sweetandcool
Vecna (2): Ezio, Hamilton Brian
No-Kill (1): DemonRHK
Kakarroto (1): aarodactyl
damo666 (1): Kakarroto

Vecna cant vote chaqa because vecna hasnt claimed he is scumreading chaqa and damo is already on chaqa

damo doesnt want to vote hamilton here because hamilton is his scum buddy here

vecna claims he wants to vote kak or damo

I dont have an explanation why vecna doesnt want ghug day 1

[brainbomb]

courtesy of aaro who did this:


Chaqa (4) ghug brainbomb Hamilton Brian damo666
ghug (3) worcej* sweetandcool aarodactyl
Hamilton Brian (3) Chaqa rdrivera2005 Jamiet99uk
Vecna (2) Ezio Kakarroto
damo666 (1) DemonRHK


Vecna only vote options are chaqa with both scum buddies
ghug???
himself.

vecna cant vote ghug as he hadnt been scumreading ghug.

[brainbomb]

##vote damo

too fuzzy on ghug or chaqa

Vecna does vote Damo before the Hamilton wagon blows up and vecna goes for it full HAM

[brainbomb]

And these vecna votes both only occur in 2 minutes til eod and 1 min til eod.

so, yea if ghug flips town this is your last scum.

[brainbomb]

ghug what do you think of this?

[ghug]

ghug what do you think of this?

So basically you think he voted Hamilton because he didn't have other options and he didn't have other options because of where his teammates were?

[brainbomb]

ghug what do you think of this?

So basically you think he voted Hamilton because he didn't have other options and he didn't have other options because of where his teammates were?

yes. and he only voted damo in final two
minutes when damo wagon had no actual chance of happening becusse he saw you and chaqa still viable

then he shifts to ham when he sees a rush on

[ghug]

ghug what do you think of this?

So basically you think he voted Hamilton because he didn't have other options and he didn't have other options because of where his teammates were?

yes. and he only voted damo in final two
minutes when damo wagon had no actual chance of happening becusse he saw you and chaqa still viable

then he shifts to ham when he sees a rush on

Yeah, I agree that his voting was unimpressive, though I recall there being some talk of damo late.

My townread of Vecna is largely based on Hamilton's vote on him late, though. Looking at the bot, there's some interestingness in damo's voting that's probably worth looking into.

[Jamiet99uk]

Woo, another Maf down.

We've nearly won already? Quick game.

[Jamiet99uk]

@jamet
@Chaqa are y'all townreading me for that damo wagon yet?

Ok yes Ezio you may have a ship's biscuit.

[Jamiet99uk]

I kinda feel sorry for Eden here. Totally new concept, grand setup with novel mechanics, tested for the first time..... and one team immediately collapses.

[ghug]

I kinda feel sorry for Eden here. Totally new concept, grand setup with novel mechanics, tested for the first time..... and one team immediately collapses.

We're about to get Chaqa'd, aren't we?

[Jamiet99uk]

I kinda feel sorry for Eden here. Totally new concept, grand setup with novel mechanics, tested for the first time..... and one team immediately collapses.

We're about to get Chaqa'd, aren't we?

That would be quite something.

Better kill Chaqa tomorrow just to be safe.

[Jamiet99uk]

Speaking of Chaqa, Damo voted for him a lot.