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worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:49 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:48 pm

I get the sabi wagon... and further silence from their corner does not help.

Looking elsewhere, though, too.

I just reread rdr... and I find him disengaged.

He 'defends' his opening post somewhat, but nothing more than a light defense. Sabi thought him overdefensive, I actually find him underdefensive.

He responds to llama's comment about crossbow with a 'shhhh... don't talk about it now' which seems artificial. Nothing llama asked or hinted at would be news to scum. It tastes like TRYING to be protective of town.

He mutters about ghug's almost-buddying him, which is ok, I guess.

But this is the thing that stands out to me, regarding tie votes.
First, rdrivera writes:
Day-1 06:20 page 6 / orig "I have to vote and don't have any good reason.

I will ##vote Kak just to keep the vote tied and see if he shows up."

Using a tie vote as a motivator/impetus on kak. Note it is, of course, a long way from EoD.

But a little later (still hours away from EoD) he criticizes my using a tie vote in a similar way: ↑dargorygel: "Ok... this ties it three ways with plenty of time.
##VOTE RDR"
RDRIVERA: It doesn't ties because Brad vote isn't counted by bot. I can vote Yoak or Sabi to tie it but a tie isn't a great outcome to D1.

My point is this: It demonstrates two possible things. First, it shows a standoff analysis. Surfing, without rdr's usual thoughtfulness. But second, it might be protecting kak.

tldr: scumteam rdr and kak.

It's not a great analysis, I realize. But we have such little data.
##VOTE rdr

(I could vote today for sabi until they start playing (I hope they're ok!!!) or kak, similarly, although I dislike what little kak has had to say more than I dislike what sabi has said.)

I think you already answered yourself. But to be clear (probably someone will say I am over/under/Uber defending me) my first vote was to keep Kak under pressure to see if he shows up and play.
And I don't have problems with ties close to EOD. Ties usually force people to assume a position and less easy to scum lay low.
What I pointed to you is exactly you were not tying it because you ignored Brad vote that wasn't counted by the bot but was accepted by GM and Ray it could generate confusion at EOD.
And if I want to defend Kak why I would make his wagon viable voting him first place? I decided to move out of him after Worcej (who I townread) said it was a bad wagon and then I read that Kak's message that I skipped at game start and thought he was baiting a NK.

I want to start echoing my inner ghug dialogue about I should do the opposite of what I actually think, but then am I actually thinking it or doing the opposite?

##vote Sabi

Frankly, over-the-top commentating about forgetting or will be catching up - you've posted 7 times and 3 of them were about needing to catch up. You're playing mafia on other platforms enough that it shouldn't be hard to remember you're in this game too. This is coming off as an act now.

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:44 pm

So folk... before we get TOO far down this tunnel, does anyone have concerns over anyone other than sabi and kak and brad (all of which COULD fix our opinion...) or rdr?

It would be good to have our thoughts on the table, lest we forget.

obviously.

Again, today I am happy with a kak, or sabi, or rdr wagon.

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:46 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:49 pm

I think you already answered yourself. But to be clear (probably someone will say I am over/under/Uber defending me) my first vote was to keep Kak under pressure to see if he shows up and play.
And I don't have problems with ties close to EOD. Ties usually force people to assume a position and less easy to scum lay low.
What I pointed to you is exactly you were not tying it because you ignored Brad vote that wasn't counted by the bot but was accepted by GM and Ray it could generate confusion at EOD.
And if I want to defend Kak why I would make his wagon viable voting him first place? I decided to move out of him after Worcej (who I townread) said it was a bad wagon and then I read that Kak's message that I skipped at game start and thought he was baiting a NK.

I want to start echoing my inner ghug dialogue about I should do the opposite of what I actually think, but then am I actually thinking it or doing the opposite?

##vote Sabi

Frankly, over-the-top commentating about forgetting or will be catching up - you've posted 7 times and 3 of them were about needing to catch up. You're playing mafia on other platforms enough that it shouldn't be hard to remember you're in this game too. This is coming off as an act now.

worcej... what is your inner ghug? and wanna stay on rdr with me?

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:50 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:46 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:29 pm

I want to start echoing my inner ghug dialogue about I should do the opposite of what I actually think, but then am I actually thinking it or doing the opposite?

##vote Sabi

Frankly, over-the-top commentating about forgetting or will be catching up - you've posted 7 times and 3 of them were about needing to catch up. You're playing mafia on other platforms enough that it shouldn't be hard to remember you're in this game too. This is coming off as an act now.

worcej... what is your inner ghug? and wanna stay on rdr with me?

My inner ghug says to not do what I think I should do, but I am thinking while I am talking to my inner ghug so I'm just YOLO'ing it (/s)

To expand: I was more just joking I keep going back and forth on rdr.

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:49 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:44 pm

So folk... before we get TOO far down this tunnel, does anyone have concerns over anyone other than sabi and kak and brad (all of which COULD fix our opinion...) or rdr?

It would be good to have our thoughts on the table, lest we forget.

obviously.

Again, today I am happy with a kak, or sabi, or rdr wagon.

Damo is doing just enough to not be on my radar. I cannot read maniac worth a crud. I am null on Llama

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:34 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:50 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:46 pm

worcej... what is your inner ghug? and wanna stay on rdr with me?

My inner ghug says to not do what I think I should do, but I am thinking while I am talking to my inner ghug so I'm just YOLO'ing it (/s)

To expand: I was more just joking I keep going back and forth on rdr.

That is what I thought you meant. I am unsure on rdr. Every time he writes, he seems more surfing to me. Kak's and sabi's and Brad's 'silence' is more damning each day.
But I ALSO realize it just might be real life, and scum is happy to let us kill lowposters. MOST of us are staring at kak for this, so it is easy for scum to go along.

I am usually a lower poster, I admit. I now am experiencing what others have yelled at me for.

Maniac wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:46 pm

Just checked myself in the mirror. God I’m handsome.

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:37 pm

worcej wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:49 pm

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:44 pm

So folk... before we get TOO far down this tunnel, does anyone have concerns over anyone other than sabi and kak and brad (all of which COULD fix our opinion...) or rdr?

It would be good to have our thoughts on the table, lest we forget.

obviously.

Again, today I am happy with a kak, or sabi, or rdr wagon.

Damo is doing just enough to not be on my radar. I cannot read maniac worth a crud. I am null on Llama

llama seems good to me. But I have not played a lot with him. When he was scum (near thanksgiving?) he was more argumentative and flipflop. Or so I remember.

I can usually read damo. Or we just kill each other. But I lean town on him. He is interacting well, with the material we have. He is just stubborn enough to be town!damo.

And maniac has given just enough serious stuff to give me confidence in his towniness. He has NOT pushed his handsomeness, which is a concern, though.

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:41 am

My thoughts about rdr and kak is that rdr voted ksk early, maybe a bus... but got off when it picked upna little steam. Hard to say though with such little action.

Maniac wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:46 pm

Just checked myself in the mirror. God I’m handsome.

Maniac wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:32 am

I can’t recall a two wagon race so early in the day before. I like it. Both kill candidates need to come out and play. If either/both are town we need you to convince us why you’re town.

rdrivera2005 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:43 am

dargorygel wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:41 am

My thoughts about rdr and kak is that rdr voted ksk early, maybe a bus... but got off when it picked upna little steam. Hard to say though with such little action.

I will ##vote Kak and probably Dargo will say it's a buss.

By the way, there is very little reason to bus in this setup.

Also, I found weird Brad voting Kak and telling that me and Worcej could be scum. Still waiting for him to explain.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:39 am

Maniac wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:32 am

I can’t recall a two wagon race so early in the day before. I like it. Both kill candidates need to come out and play. If either/both are town we need you to convince us why you’re town.

Now this post worries me.

Smacks of "Sabi my dear scummate for gawd sake defend yourself"