M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

[Vecna]

##GM NOTE
Final day4 Vote Count

Chaqa: (5) worcej, rdrivera2005, celaph, damo666, Ghug
Rdrivera2005: (1) Chaqa
Celaph: (1) Johnny Big Horse
ghug: (1) e.m.c^42


Let me know asap if any errors exist

[Vecna]

You look tired….have a seat, “chaqa’s voice bellows through the dark room”.
“NO THANK YOU, IM FINE JUST THE WAY I AM”, replies the Wizard Master.

“For now maybe, but when you wake up….its back in the saddle”….Chaqa continues to look menacingly as he sends in the animated wheelchair to attack the Wizard master. Blades twirling with clang-click-clack as the contraption nears the helpless nerd on the floor.

In a final desperate measure, the wizard master, which in this example is clearly a synonym for the town, starts shouting “I am the wizard master”…..I AM THE WIZARD MASTER. They get up off the floor and shoot a salvo of lightning bolts at the wheelchair. It explodes.

“In the name of LORWYK, prince of elves, DEMON BE GONE!” The Wizard master unleashes an impressive display of green lightning towards chaqa, who starts fuming and sputtering, before his body ultimately explodes in an over-the-top gory explosion of blood. All that remains is a silly firearm.

Everyone rejoices. The first bad guy is dead. As is the flavor narrative. NMoES3 Ftw (not really)

OFFICIAL GAME INFORMATION:

Chaqa has died day 4. They were Freddy Krueger, of the MAFIA.

They held a N1 gun.

Night 4 has started, and will end in 24 hours. You may now post.

This new server sucks ass. Its now official

[ghug]

Kickass

Now I kinda wish I had taken an N1 gun...

[e.m.c^42]

Oh thank fuck

[ghug]

Yeah, I'm pretty set on rd as one and either Horsey or celaph as the other. I'm leaning towards the latter now.

[ghug]

What do you make of these developments, Horseman?

[damo666]

I wish the site wouldn't crash at such inopportune moments.

Now the question is how many bussers?

None - could it be that simple?
One - celaph? rdr?
Two - hmmm?

[ghug]

We caught mafia at MILO and only three people noticed...

[ghug]

A couple of thoughts on the voting:

• Chaqa didn't vote for rdr today until I pressed him on it, despite the fact that he supposedly scumread him for days and it was the leading counterwagon to his own kill.

• The JBH move to celaph feels like he wasn't trying to protect Chaqa. If they were scum together, Horsey would have known Chaqa was willing to flip to rdr and stayed on that wagon with me. Obviously if rdr is scum too this makes more sense, but it seems likely that mafia settled on Chaqa dying before today, so JBH as a partner putting himself out there to half-heartedly doesn't make a lot of sense anyway.

• There was no last minute attempt by scum to shift the vote. I think this is probably just risk aversion/people not being here, but it is worth keeping in mind. A damo emc pairing, for examine, could plausibly have gone for it.

[rdrivera2005]

I wish the site wouldn't crash at such inopportune moments.

Now the question is how many bussers?

None - could it be that simple?
One - celaph? rdr?
Two - hmmm?

Yey, one down and we are still in the game. I am starting to feel good about town chances for the first time after D2.

And I think the asnwer is the simple one. Ghug is scum and made all the possible effor to avoid a Chaqa wagon on D3 and D4, while even scumreading Chaqa. And his puppet JHK who never voted Chaqa either is the third one

Damo, I think you are the most likely NK so try to read the game carefully and please re-read Ghug D1 and his interaction with Chaqa and try to understand why he choose to shot Jamiet instead of Ghug....

[ghug]

I wish the site wouldn't crash at such inopportune moments.

Now the question is how many bussers?

None - could it be that simple?
One - celaph? rdr?
Two - hmmm?

Yey, one down and we are still in the game. I am starting to feel good about town chances for the first time after D2.

And I think the asnwer is the simple one. Ghug is scum and made all the possible effor to avoid a Chaqa wagon on D3 and D4, while even scumreading Chaqa. And his puppet JHK who never voted Chaqa either is the third one

Damo, I think you are the most likely NK so try to read the game carefully and please re-read Ghug D1 and his interaction with Chaqa and try to understand why he choose to shot Jamiet instead of Ghug....

Now you're lying. I didn't scumread him day 3. I did say 4, but I wanted a competitive day and lacked the confidence in the read that you got from knowing his role. Plus, I was voting scum anyway

[rdrivera2005]

A couple of thoughts on the voting:

• Chaqa didn't vote for rdr today until I pressed him on it, despite the fact that he supposedly scumread him for days and it was the leading counterwagon to his own kill.

• The JBH move to celaph feels like he wasn't trying to protect Chaqa. If they were scum together, Horsey would have known Chaqa was willing to flip to rdr and stayed on that wagon with me. Obviously if rdr is scum too this makes more sense, but it seems likely that mafia settled on Chaqa dying before today, so JBH as a partner putting himself out there to half-heartedly doesn't make a lot of sense anyway.

• There was no last minute attempt by scum to shift the vote. I think this is probably just risk aversion/people not being here, but it is worth keeping in mind. A damo emc pairing, for examine, could plausibly have gone for it.

I think JBH was trying to set a counterwagon to Chaqa and he need a town to join this wagon. Considering only you and him are voting me all day, it doesn´t look my wagon will get more traction. And he voted Celaph after you called it as the scumteam, which is a complete weird move as he never interacted much with you and said he would follow Xorxes (who scumread Chaqa).

[rdrivera2005]

I wish the site wouldn't crash at such inopportune moments.

Now the question is how many bussers?

None - could it be that simple?
One - celaph? rdr?
Two - hmmm?

Yey, one down and we are still in the game. I am starting to feel good about town chances for the first time after D2.

And I think the asnwer is the simple one. Ghug is scum and made all the possible effor to avoid a Chaqa wagon on D3 and D4, while even scumreading Chaqa. And his puppet JHK who never voted Chaqa either is the third one

Damo, I think you are the most likely NK so try to read the game carefully and please re-read Ghug D1 and his interaction with Chaqa and try to understand why he choose to shot Jamiet instead of Ghug....

Now you're lying. I didn't scumread him day 3. I did say 4, but I wanted a competitive day and lacked the confidence in the read that you got from knowing his role. Plus, I was voting scum anyway

I didn´t said you scumread him on D3. You tried to dismiss my wagon on him on D3. On D4 you said you scumread him but never voted until the end and activelly try to rebute any argument against Chaqa.
And I think you are a good player and you will never just not see how Chaqa was scummy on D3, you are better then this as town.

[rdrivera2005]

Anyway, now I will have a good dinner and a wine, it was a pretty good day at work and a good night on webdip.

[ghug]

Yey, one down and we are still in the game. I am starting to feel good about town chances for the first time after D2.

And I think the asnwer is the simple one. Ghug is scum and made all the possible effor to avoid a Chaqa wagon on D3 and D4, while even scumreading Chaqa. And his puppet JHK who never voted Chaqa either is the third one

Damo, I think you are the most likely NK so try to read the game carefully and please re-read Ghug D1 and his interaction with Chaqa and try to understand why he choose to shot Jamiet instead of Ghug....

Now you're lying. I didn't scumread him day 3. I did say 4, but I wanted a competitive day and lacked the confidence in the read that you got from knowing his role. Plus, I was voting scum anyway

I didn´t said you scumread him on D3. You tried to dismiss my wagon on him on D3. On D4 you said you scumread him but never voted until the end and activelly try to rebute any argument against Chaqa.
And I think you are a good player and you will never just not see how Chaqa was scummy on D3, you are better then this as town.

You can keep saying this over and over again, but that doesn't make it true.

I weighed both sides of the issue. I stated why I thought Chaqa was scum. I questioned your reasoning on Chaqa specifically, because it was shoddy. You were quietly defending him without giving a read either way, as a scum teammate does, and then he called you out when he voted HB, someone he had been scumreading and someone you were voting for, at which point you started shouting that his vote was the scummiest thing imaginable and anyone who didn't see it that way was defending him. It's very similar to how you bussed Vecna last game.

[ghug]

Anyway, now I will have a good dinner and a wine, it was a pretty good day at work and a good night on webdip.

Enjoy, scum.

[Johnny Big Horse]

Anyway, now I will have a good dinner and a wine, it was a pretty good day at work and a good night on webdip.

Enjoy, scum.

I think you are right. Rivera is #2.

I moved to Celaph, after Chaqa wrote a really good post explaining how he couldn't be scum. I figure Celaph is #3. I voted him as he, at the time, seemed most likely candidate for scum besides Chaqa, who I thought, cleared himself pretty good.

[ghug]

Anyway, now I will have a good dinner and a wine, it was a pretty good day at work and a good night on webdip.

Enjoy, scum.

I think you are right. Rivera is #2.

I moved to Celaph, after Chaqa wrote a really good post explaining how he couldn't be scum. I figure Celaph is #3. I voted him as he, at the time, seemed most likely candidate for scum besides Chaqa, who I thought, cleared himself pretty good.

But why were you on celaph over rd?

[Johnny Big Horse]

Enjoy, scum.

I think you are right. Rivera is #2.

I moved to Celaph, after Chaqa wrote a really good post explaining how he couldn't be scum. I figure Celaph is #3. I voted him as he, at the time, seemed most likely candidate for scum besides Chaqa, who I thought, cleared himself pretty good.

But why were you on celaph over rd?

I move rivera up to #2 after reading his responses to Chaqa's being eliminated. He was putting forth, what seemed, bad theories, according to you guys, and it seemed he was acting like someone who is cornered.

[Johnny Big Horse]

Oh, and I was more certain (if I can be so) of celaph than rivera then. At this moment more certain of Rivera. But I think both are mafia.