Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Kakarroto]

Ham is considered a food
And bob could be baked in the oven to resemble a big ham
but did the ham become food for bob?
if thats the case then Bob ate food and ham, and he is also ham, so that would be cannibalism
but if cannibalism is legel then bob is town, but just eats himself.

now if ham wasnt glazed at the time he got eaten is it even really food?

[Hamilton Brian]

Jesus, I am daft.

So there are three roles that return an alignment, yes? EOC, Detective, and Police Commissioner.

But we only have 2 alignments?

How's that work?

@hamilton brian

1) How do you feel about the progress being made on D2?
Intermittent following along so I don't really have a feeling. Seems like things are moving toward solving but I don't know since I'm barely able to keep track.

2) What is currently the most rewarding aspect to you of solving this game?
Not sure I understand what you're asking. Are you asking what I am pleased with my contribution?

3) How does the current state of affairs conflict with the plans you had for this game prior to D2?
Again, can yuo rephrase that? It's not clear to me what you're asking.

4) What can you tell me about Bunny's nightkill?
It surprised me.

5) Is there anything you want to tell me about your role in the miselimination of Justaguynamedwill?
I didn't care for the other wagons.

Asap plx ×500

[Hamilton Brian]

Jesus, I am daft.

So there are three roles that return an alignment, yes? EOC, Detective, and Police Commissioner.

But we only have 2 alignments?

How's that work?

@hamilton brian

1) How do you feel about the progress being made on D2?

2) What is currently the most rewarding aspect to you of solving this game?

3) How does the current state of affairs conflict with the plans you had for this game prior to D2?

4) What can you tell me about Bunny's nightkill?

5) Is there anything you want to tell me about your role in the miselimination of Justaguynamedwill?

Asap plx ×500

Okie dokie then..

Given my limited time to get on here and read, I don't need the snark. What are you implying?

[Hamilton Brian]

##vote foodcoats

The comments about the spreadsheet are making me think he’s the scum here FWIW

Hey now, can’t a man crack some flimsy jokes on mobile?

I really do have a spreadsheet, though it’s nothing special.

Will be properly sitting down to respond in four hours or so.

You know who else had spreadsheets...

[Kakarroto]

friendly reminder for all who returned SUCCESS, if they want to get checked if they are Lobbyist, they should vote a solo wagon (maybe themselves)

@Kakarroto

@BK3K

@Frogsterking

@worcej

@Hamilton Brian

[Kakarroto]

friendly reminder for all who returned SUCCESS, if they want to get checked if they are Lobbyist, they should vote a solo wagon (maybe themselves)

@Kakarroto

@BK3K

@Frogsterking

@worcej

@Hamilton Brian

wait, the TARGET of success get the vote, my bad, was a long day, so that should be

@Kakarroto

@Frogsterking

@damo666

@chaqa

@bob

(but is only a suggestion, I do it myself to see if worcej is lobbyist)

[Hamilton Brian]

You've been at it a long time, Kak. Take a break.

[Kakarroto]

You've been at it a long time, Kak. Take a break.

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[brainbomb]

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lets get this moving along

[Frogsterking]

##vote BK3K

Testing for Lobbyist, assuming no one else in the "success" group is on BK3K.

@hamilton brian

1) How do you feel about the progress being made on D2?

2) What is currently the most rewarding aspect to you of solving this game?

3) How does the current state of affairs conflict with the plans you had for this game prior to D2?

4) What can you tell me about Bunny's nightkill?

5) Is there anything you want to tell me about your role in the miselimination of Justaguynamedwill?

Asap plx ×500

Okie dokie then..

Given my limited time to get on here and read, I don't need the snark. What are you implying?

I'm implying that town!brian certainly has nothing to hide and my questions are an ideal opportunity to help you show us what town!brian is up to.

Brian,

2) What is currently the most rewarding aspect to you of solving this game?

(Brian)

Not sure I understand what you're asking. Are you asking what I am pleased with my contribution?

Yes, what step of discovering scum here do you feel most satisfied with? Or, what step of discovering scum here are you enjoying the most?

3) How does the current state of affairs conflict with the plans you had for this game prior to D2?

(Brian)

Again, can yuo rephrase that? It's not clear to me what you're asking.

How do the events of D2 conflict with what you were planning before D2 started?

I want to add a follow up question too:

6) Is there anything I didn't ask you that you think I should have?

[Kakarroto]

Heya Diplomacy&Warfare, what do you think of the current developments?

are you mad that bob didn't reveal his target so you don't know who is Electoral Commissions Officer?

[Frogsterking]

I'd really appreciate second opinions on these posts:

I'm not sure if I said this yet: Foodoats you can go please go ahead and post a full reads list with explanations sometime over the next few hours.

My second scumread is BobMcBob. As I stated elsewhere, Bob...

twice townreads lfischl:

I feel like lfischl is being his usual overly serious and hedgy self here. Seems towny.

chaqa just felt like trying to hit a post quota and act oblivious

which when he is town he is usually pretty shameless
and will flat out tell you he hasnt read, plans not to read, doesnt care about day 1 or something to that effect.

and his posts seem strangely filler and formulaic without the shamelessness of his usual meta

and lfischl seems like someone who barely plays, rarely posts, and often coasts or just lurks. he is trying and is actually forcing some things out and it seems rushed and almost like he is just doing this to benefit his scum rand as opposed to actually solving

Okay, now I've embarassed myself even more with that crosspost lol. Chaqa's entrance did feel a little weird, but I had put that down to poor execution rather than scumminess.

Fisch I thought felt the need to respond to direct questions from frogster, which feels like something he would do. He hasn't pinged me as scum!fisch with his responses, and he definitely does lurk as scum.

questions brainbomb's scumread of lfischl:

my scumreads at this present time are
lfischl
frogster
chaqa
jamie

I think bob is pretty clearly town, and sweet is also very likely town. I have some uncomfortable feelings about townreading worcej-kak-neph but nothing they said really “bothers” me necessarily.

I wasnt that impressed by Jamie posts and that could definetely also be a scumread.


my top town is probably bob just because hes a completely ridiculous person who lacks social tact and yet is incredibly charismatic in his own way

do you have any somethingburgers to back up those scumreads? (mostly fisch and chaqa)

and then votes lfischl.

Contextually, there was no discussion of lfischl at the time Bob made his vote (a page or so back, HB had mentioned he tends to misread lfischl, which Bob did not refer to). Bob does not signal that his vote is a joke, either.

I think this is very scummy and that Bob needs to explain this extreme inconsistency.

Balancing out wagons, same reasons I scumread you before.

The fact that I voted for fisch? Were you feeling less convinced by the sweet wagon or did you just want to keep the wagons even? Did you notice worcej had moved his vote?

When I looked at the bot it was sweet 4 Bob 2 and I was comfortable with both wagons so I wanted to see what might occur by tying them to give future VCA.

I was assuming they implied bob!town but maybe I was being a little slow? I didn't read into them very much.

[Kakarroto]

I'd really appreciate second opinions on these posts:

I'm not sure if I said this yet: Foodoats you can go please go ahead and post a full reads list with explanations sometime over the next few hours.

My second scumread is BobMcBob. As I stated elsewhere, Bob...

twice townreads lfischl:

I feel like lfischl is being his usual overly serious and hedgy self here. Seems towny.

Okay, now I've embarassed myself even more with that crosspost lol. Chaqa's entrance did feel a little weird, but I had put that down to poor execution rather than scumminess.

Fisch I thought felt the need to respond to direct questions from frogster, which feels like something he would do. He hasn't pinged me as scum!fisch with his responses, and he definitely does lurk as scum.

questions brainbomb's scumread of lfischl:

do you have any somethingburgers to back up those scumreads? (mostly fisch and chaqa)

and then votes lfischl.

Contextually, there was no discussion of lfischl at the time Bob made his vote (a page or so back, HB had mentioned he tends to misread lfischl, which Bob did not refer to). Bob does not signal that his vote is a joke, either.

I think this is very scummy and that Bob needs to explain this extreme inconsistency.

The fact that I voted for fisch? Were you feeling less convinced by the sweet wagon or did you just want to keep the wagons even? Did you notice worcej had moved his vote?

When I looked at the bot it was sweet 4 Bob 2 and I was comfortable with both wagons so I wanted to see what might occur by tying them to give future VCA.

I was assuming they implied bob!town but maybe I was being a little slow? I didn't read into them very much.

I would more tend towards this, yes. I'm not good at detailed reading and finding micro-nuance, more like vibe thing (at least I think I am). Especially with the behaviour on early day 2, mafia seemed to have a plan to go forward.

Bob didn't. Looks to me like bob reacts to things happening, but not acting on a plan, as far as I can tell.

Also, I'm pretty sure mafia likes to mix up mafia and town, connect them together in case one flips. If town flips, they can say 'ah, was just TvT'. If their mate flips, town might misvote the connected towny.

So nearly not slamdunk, but yeah, I'd say with that it's a notch for bob being town.

[Chaqa]

We will need 10 hammer votes on Food to end this. I suggest we focus on the game flow and not worry about the single vote wagons today.

[BK3K]

is food confirmed scum or something? I see a lot of votes on them. Highly unlikely I go back and read these. I really do apologize for my low participation. I have a lot going on and this is lower priority for me. I don't mean to be a damper on the game

[Jamiet99uk]

is food confirmed scum or something? I see a lot of votes on them. Highly unlikely I go back and read these. I really do apologize for my low participation. I have a lot going on and this is lower priority for me. I don't mean to be a damper on the game

He's either (a) scum or (b) town who for some reason lied about his result.

[bozotheclown]

I am not caught up, but I see sweetandcool changed his result claim, which results in the following:

success/failure (4-7) - Doctor, Curfew Enforcer, News Host, Lobbyist, (Mail Man), any RBed role:
BK3K, foodcoats, Frogsterking, Hamilton, Kakarroto, lfischl, worcej

town/mafia (3 or 4) - Detective, Internal Affairs, Electoral Commission Officer, (Mail Man):
bozotheclown, heart, sweetandcool

role (1 or 2) - Middle Manager, (Mail Man):
Diplomacy&Warfare, Jamie

player ID (2 or 3) - Ruber Driver, Polster, (Mail Man):
babyspice, brainbomb, Nephthys

delivered/undelivered (2 or 3) - Paper Delivery Boy, Door-Darter, (Mail Man):
Chaqa, damo

not claimed:
Bob

[BK3K]

is food confirmed scum or something? I see a lot of votes on them. Highly unlikely I go back and read these. I really do apologize for my low participation. I have a lot going on and this is lower priority for me. I don't mean to be a damper on the game

He's either (a) scum or (b) town who for some reason lied about his result.

##vote food

[bozotheclown]

It is going to be several more hours before I will be online again to catch up, but it seems sweetandcool being the EOC makes sense.

In case you want to hammer before I get back:

##VOTE foodcoats
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[Kakarroto]

would we even have enough endvotes from people currently here to end the day before mafia gets a 30+ hour night?

we have barely 30 minutes for that