MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[ghug]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

I don't think agreeing to that absolutely makes sense. The vig should consider claiming with the knowledge that it's better if they live until tomorrow and that we'll be skeptical if they claim on the block.

Why not miskill today if we're going to do it later anyway? I don't think there's any obvious townie kill right now?

[ghug]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

I don't think agreeing to that absolutely makes sense. The vig should consider claiming with the knowledge that it's better if they live until tomorrow and that we'll be skeptical if they claim on the block.

Why not miskill today if we're going to do it later anyway? I don't think there's any obvious townie kill right now?

No kill*

[rdrivera2005]

We should kill today. If we miskill we might choose to no-kill tomorrow.

I have doubts about the Vig for the reasons I pointed. We could agree to no kill if someone claims on the block and Vig can CC at EON like Ghug suggested but this will need a majority around at EOD.

I don't think agreeing to that absolutely makes sense. The vig should consider claiming with the knowledge that it's better if they live until tomorrow and that we'll be skeptical if they claim on the block.

Why not miskill today if we're going to do it later anyway? I don't think there's any obvious townie kill right now?

No kill*

I am not advocating a no-kill today but what we do if the leading wagon claim Vig at EOD? Just go ahead and hope it's fake? Or panic and end killing a townie?
No obvious town, maybe Macca, but also a really small pool to Vig who might be NK anyway.

But fine, let the Vig decide knowing a last minute claim could just be ignored.

[damo666]

A pretty bad choice from Vig, which probably should claim today as we can afford a 1x1.

##vote Bunny - The reaction to the flip is fake as hell.

What does this mean? Vig is now vt.

VT who nobody else can claim except scum.

We get a clear for a day until scum kill them tonight.

Ok they claim and are clear but won't get countered (unless scum dumb enough to fake claim first) but will be next NK anyway.

Up to them. I think it's Macca anyway.

[damo666]

Imo vig should claim with more than an hour to go of they think they might be in trouble knowing that any claim in the last hour will be ignored (because I've just said so).

No kill is daft. They will just NK Macca and we are no further forward.

My town to scum list is now

Macca
rdr
Bunny
Heart/ghug
Worcej
Chaqa

##vote Chaqa

[damo666]

The game was derailed because Jamie happened to flip Watcher. I think it may be worth listing players' reactions to Bona's doc claim. Town wouldn't have had a clue, scum would know Bona was town and strongly suspect he was doc.

Gonna do this but on phone so will be piecemeal.

Me first - I actually xposted with Bona saying he was either doc or scum. I think this NAI but up to you to decide.

[damo666]

I think real doc shouldn’t counter claim. I also think it’s time for mech discussion because our vig isn’t doing their job. But I’m at dinner with my kid and phone is below 9%.

So back later.

##vote damo

Vote scum

Then we talk mechs.

Bunny's reaction. Doesn't advocate cc or bonakill so more t than s

[damo666]

Will is my strongest townread :/

That is interesting.

How so?

I think Sweet made an earnest effort to kill Will on D1 so I don't see him as likely mafia

O dear.

Chaqa makes several post Bona claim posts which look scummy and he doesn't address whether Bona is doc. Advocates vig to shoot Bona.

Scummy

[BunnyGo]

That is interesting.

How so?

I think Sweet made an earnest effort to kill Will on D1 so I don't see him as likely mafia

O dear.

Chaqa makes several post Bona claim posts which look scummy and he doesn't address whether Bona is doc. Advocates vig to shoot Bona.

Scummy

why you think they look scummy?

[BunnyGo]

I think real doc shouldn’t counter claim. I also think it’s time for mech discussion because our vig isn’t doing their job. But I’m at dinner with my kid and phone is below 9%.

So back later.

##vote damo

Vote scum

Then we talk mechs.

Bunny's reaction. Doesn't advocate cc or bonakill so more t than s

I also quickly called his claim too stupid to believe (or something like that)

[damo666]

the vig shooting me is the worst of all possible worlds

i would much rather a 1-1 counterclaim battle if i am going to be escorted to the god thread by the work of town

Vig should shoot someone who isn't bona unless we actually get a CC.

This and following posts suggest town.

[damo666]

My analysis:

People who clearly expressed a reason (or reasons) for voting Hamilton, and whose reason(s), at face value, made some sense, are as follows:

Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo
Temasek22
Bozo

People whose reason for voting Hamilton was unclear, or was not stated at all:

Ghug
JustAGuyNamedWill
Chaqa
Heartthrob

A person who did state a reason for voting Hamilton, but whose vote move looks extremely suspect:

Bonatogether.

Further notes:

(1) Of the 7 people who ended up on Hamilton at EoD:

Myself, Bunny, and JustWill, had voted Hamilton in the first 24 hours.
Chaqa, Bonatogether, Bozo and Heartthrob only voted Hamilton towards the end of the day.

(2) Only Ghug and Temasek voted Hamilton early, and then moved away, not to return to the wagon.

(3) Only Damo, Macca, Rdr and Worcej did not vote for Hamilton at all in D2.

This was posted 7 hours before EOD.

Bona ain't scum.

Disagree - Bona clearly is getting fingered by Jamie here.

Worcej disbelieves bona.

NAI

[damo666]

Oh great Bozo!

Please explain what the fuck just happened with Bona. Too many people are saying things are obvious, but I just saw 3 pages of WORDS, and I'm confused.

Do we have to neck him now?

Hmmmm

[damo666]

Ah...that makes sense. Anything in particular you decided to change?

My strategy. I am trying to be less outgoing and instead of defending myself as much, going into others motivations and tactics

Show, don't tell.

Coaching?

[Chaqa]

I like Tem or Bunny for today

[Chaqa]

Heart too

[worcej]

##vote Chaqa

The broken record is a concern.

You're one to talk

Am I? Because I feel like you’re just patiently letting town destroy ourselves and not interacting worth a damn to correct any stupidity, you’re just making snide comments about it.

[rdrivera2005]

I like Tem or Bunny for today

Could you elaborate on Tem?

[BunnyGo]

I like Tem or Bunny for today

What do you think of your wagon?

[BunnyGo]

I like Tem or Bunny for today

Could you elaborate on Tem?

And bunny too?