MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[dargorygel]

@Kit
You mention on p 119 that you read the game while ‘busy’ by reading the bot. Why do you do that instead of scan the game?

@Darg

If you must know, it’s a combination of two reasons and one more than the other.

1. I have scraps of time now and then to catch up on what I’ve missed but not to respond with properly thought out posts. I’ve seen enough people get tarred for showing up as actively viewing without posting (even though I feel this is a weak argument) that I’d prefer to avoid that for myself if possible.

2. I like the colours better and don’t get as confused about which person I don’t know except by reputation said what when everything they say is, for example, green.

Is this the way you usually read the game? It seems to me that it would take less time to read through the thread instead of clicking on the bot person by person and tracking down 'why did she say THAT' to understand full context.

I would be surprised if this is how you usually read the game. But I suppose it might be. It does not seem the most efficient, time friendly method.

More importantly, you would miss the train of thought. The magnificent progression of conversation.

I'm not just being concerned about you time management skills. But if you were me reading your statement about how you are reading this game, can you see how it would make me think you are not just busy... but busy AND coasting? It's the coasting that could indicate a scummy attitude... right?

[dargorygel]

I agree with the color thing, though.

[DemonRHK]

So I missed EoD and had raid last night. My bad.

Tom, sorry I ended the day on you. If I was actually here I would not have.

At this time, I want to ask what people think of those on all three lynches:
Kalel and Purple. Also, EMC and xorx on both scum lynches.

Normally this would all be towny as fuck, but in multimafia it could still very likely be team2.

9 of the 11 people who ended on rivera voted after Tom claimed. Do you really believe those votes tell you anything about alignment?

The other two were Tom and Kalel. Those two are probably not team Moriarty.

Look at the votes before the claim if you want to do a meaningful analysis. Did you not think of that?

I'm at work. I didn't look too in depth at the movement just the results. You make a good point, but that makes me MORE sus of Kalel. I'm looking for scum2, they're still full strength.

[dargorygel]

So I’m going to just throw this out there to the scumbos - I have two abilities that are useful in catching SK. I also understand they are somewhat useful in catching scumbos.

I propose a plan of working together to catch SK. One of the non-decimated scumteam outs and directs me who to vanilla scan tonight and who to track tomorrow night. That way you get two shots at catching SK (or tonight a town PR) since the other remaining mafia is goon.

Force SK to kill me tomorrow night to avoid being tracked and since I’m male it will help everyone

Scum should consider this... note as well that town is not likely to immediately lynch the revealed scum, we often hold a cleared scum in hand for later. So it wouldn't be instant suicide... OR maybe they should choose their goon to reveal themselves, so we can go ahead and lynch and get another female off the table.

[CmdrLikely]

I'm liking Vecna more now, and xorx as well.

If I had to wager right now on the other scum, it would be in the group of Kitsune, EMC, Dargo, Flavius, Bionic, Purplecow. Jack is harder to pin down.

I think Kitsune should be our next lynch, tbh, for the Tom/RDR stuff. Unless Tom gets information that otherwise helps us.

Samers.

What does "SK" mean?

[dargorygel]

I'm liking Vecna more now, and xorx as well.

If I had to wager right now on the other scum, it would be in the group of Kitsune, EMC, Dargo, Flavius, Bionic, Purplecow. Jack is harder to pin down.

I think Kitsune should be our next lynch, tbh, for the Tom/RDR stuff. Unless Tom gets information that otherwise helps us.

Samers.

What does "SK" mean?

Serial Killer

[yavuzovic]

So I’m going to just throw this out there to the scumbos - I have two abilities that are useful in catching SK. I also understand they are somewhat useful in catching scumbos.

I propose a plan of working together to catch SK. One of the non-decimated scumteam outs and directs me who to vanilla scan tonight and who to track tomorrow night. That way you get two shots at catching SK (or tonight a town PR) since the other remaining mafia is goon.

Force SK to kill me tomorrow night to avoid being tracked and since I’m male it will help everyone

Oh, this looks fun. Maf team can even steal after you die to double check against lying as well, lmao

Tom can lie about the vanilla scan and make them waste their nightkill while one of the mafias outed themselves. I wouldn't complain though.

[yavuzovic]

Well my last comment looked like a scum responding
Maybe it is time to stir up the thread again

[xorxes]

Is this the way you usually read the game? It seems to me that it would take less time to read through the thread instead of clicking on the bot person by person and tracking down 'why did she say THAT' to understand full context.

You do know that you can read the thread using the bot in full and not just person by person, don't you?

[xorxes]

I'm also going to tentatively exclude Kitsune because she voted for rivera when she had other options.

That only leaves BionicMole and DemonRHK as the most likely candidates to complete team Moriarty. These are the only two for which I could not find anything yet that would suggest they were not rivera's teammates.

Do you have evidence why we should exclude yourself?

What do you think, should I be excluded or not, and why?

[Kitsune]

Is this the way you usually read the game? It seems to me that it would take less time to read through the thread instead of clicking on the bot person by person and tracking down 'why did she say THAT' to understand full context.

You do know that you can read the thread using the bot in full and not just person by person, don't you?

I was just about to say.

Clicking on person by person sounds exhausting. Of course I don't do that, except in the heat of a particularly determined ISO.

I read through the thread end to end - it actually features less pages to click through than the forum thread, although I do need to click on the bulk quotes to see what people are referencing sometimes.

[Kitsune]

@Dargo - I'll show you after we're both safely dead and sipping rum and cola in the god thread, okay?

[dargorygel]

Is this the way you usually read the game? It seems to me that it would take less time to read through the thread instead of clicking on the bot person by person and tracking down 'why did she say THAT' to understand full context.

You do know that you can read the thread using the bot in full and not just person by person, don't you?

Lol no I didn't. Ok, I found out how. Yeah, I'm supposed to be the bot master. And now kit looks less scummy to me.

[xorxes]

Vecna is looking better, hmm

I actually kinda want both him and xorx to be scummy enough to be almost lynched but not quite, so we can see how their endgame play is, regardless of alignment. Have never seen it

lmfao

Sadly, I doubt its ever going to happen again on this website.

Just look at the general consensus after only 2 two successful kills weren't aimed at the two of us.

@Xorxes - who do you think is gonna eat a bullet first?

With three shots tonight, it might very well be simultaneous.

[xorxes]

If we assume scum would avoid ending up on the same wagon, BionicMole is the most likley, because Demon voted together with rivera D2 and D3.

I tried to follow how you got to this and along the way you dismiss some people arbitrarily and make many assumptions.

Point out the assumptions you disagree with.

Who is more likely to be Bob and rivera's teammate in your opinion? Who is more likely to be scum in general?

[KalelChase]

So I missed EoD and had raid last night. My bad.

Tom, sorry I ended the day on you. If I was actually here I would not have.

At this time, I want to ask what people think of those on all three lynches:
Kalel and Purple. Also, EMC and xorx on both scum lynches.

Normally this would all be towny as fuck, but in multimafia it could still very likely be team2.

Are you asking of what we think about a Kalel/Purple lynch or are you asking of what they think about the lynches that happened? :D

I think demon means me and Kalel voted for Bob, frost, and rivera.
So demon want to know what people think of us doing that.

I'd say 2 out of 3 aint bad. Are you actually targeting those of us that have successfully been scumhunting (and in my case trying hard not to jump on wagons just because). You weren't at the top of my scumhunt, but this nudges you more in that direction.

[xorxes]

More of this fluffy theorizing why people would have been killed. High scum potential

I was looking at bozo this morning. He did a very bozo-type mechanics-oriented super plan regarding the value of Jek claiming. He received the usual pressure against it. And then when chaqa DID claim, bozo lost the wind from his sails. Since then he hasn't come up with a new bozo-type mechanics-oriented super plan.

I find that unusual.

Yeah Bozo is definitely extremely uncharacteristically not-present this game. I dont remember a single annoying thing he's been trying to get through someway or another.

Now that Sherlock has claimed, I think it's safe to say that he is not a VT, so he should be easy to sort one way or the other.

[Kitsune]

Neither BunnyGo or damo stated any strong scum reads recently, I do not see a reason why they would have been targeted based on their reads. BunnyGo did move his vote around a lot D2, he likely was voting for a scum at some point. I could see that post by damo being interpreted as a cop crumb.

More of this fluffy theorizing why people would have been killed. High scum potential

I was looking at bozo this morning. He did a very bozo-type mechanics-oriented super plan regarding the value of Jek claiming. He received the usual pressure against it. And then when chaqa DID claim, bozo lost the wind from his sails. Since then he hasn't come up with a new bozo-type mechanics-oriented super plan.

I find that unusual.

Is there an echo in here?

I could swear I've been saying something similar since Day 1...

Although if you found that while you were checking over me, then I'm glad you now agree with me whether or not you still want me dead.

[xorxes]

Vecna is looking better, hmm

I actually kinda want both him and xorx to be scummy enough to be almost lynched but not quite, so we can see how their endgame play is, regardless of alignment. Have never seen it

lmfao

I made it to the endgame in one of the minimafias. I won as scum in a lylo with brain and rivera. Rivera had me figured out (and so had bozo who I killed the night before), but somehow I managed to convince brain to vote for rivera (and he even hammered him). I think it was mini mafia 7.

I also made it to the endgame once as town in one of those role madness games. I had a fun role that some people purported was overpowered but I think it was just well played, the Equalizer, a combination of Cop and Vig. Mafia got obliterated that game, so there were a lot of people alive when it ended. Don't know what number game it was.

[xorxes]

Tom’s outing of himself seems a bit early.

Are you aware of what the votecount was when he claimed?