Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2461 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:53 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:29 pm

My suggestion to anyone who is designing games like this is to have more roles than players. If there were several additional roles that were unassigned and we had no idea if they were or not, it would leave significant gaps in how we’re finding buckets of scum here.
For this reason I am a huge fan of semi-open setups.
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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2462 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:54 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:30 pm
so if we sure about BK or lfischl being mafia, we should vote them today for a chance to hit the sicko
Roger.

##Vote Lfischl.
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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2463 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:57 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:31 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:17 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:08 pm
I'll vote for whoever Kak tells me to tbh
bernie sanders
Shit, I may just write him in at this point if the 2024 election plays out the same as 2020
I sure hope it plays out the same as 2020, minus the insurrection.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2464 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:53 pm
worcej wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:29 pm

My suggestion to anyone who is designing games like this is to have more roles than players. If there were several additional roles that were unassigned and we had no idea if they were or not, it would leave significant gaps in how we’re finding buckets of scum here.
For this reason I am a huge fan of semi-open setups.
it solves a lot of the problems of Role Madness.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2465 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:58 pm

also, time for one of these:

Final Vote Count

JustAGuyNamedWill (7) Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian, brainbomb, babyspice666, lfischl
BK3K (5) Frogsterking, BobMcBob, Kakarroto, JustAGuyNamedWill
sweetandcool (2) damo666, BunnyGo
lfischl (3) Chaqa, heartthrob24909, Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto (1) Nephthys
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) BK3K
Frogsterking (1) sweetandcool
Chaqa (1) worcej

confirmed town
likely town due to mechanics

well, looks to me someone was actually saved D1

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2466 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:59 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:58 pm
also, time for one of these:

Final Vote Count

JustAGuyNamedWill (7) Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian, brainbomb, babyspice666, lfischl
BK3K (5) Frogsterking, BobMcBob, Kakarroto, JustAGuyNamedWill
sweetandcool (2) damo666, BunnyGo
lfischl (3) Chaqa, heartthrob24909, Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto (1) Nephthys
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) BK3K
Frogsterking (1) sweetandcool
Chaqa (1) worcej

confirmed town
likely town due to mechanics

well, looks to me someone was actually saved D1


@Kak: did you miss that I am confTown with Sweet's retraction?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2467 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:59 pm

NoOooooooo I got got

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2468 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:00 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:51 pm
I too was in a role madness game as mafia where everyone was members of british parliament and I was a conservative back bencher and had to make up some random name I looked up on google to be the parliament member I was pretending to be. I went to alot of effort.

and for my effort, got killed on Day 1. but not by the town, the day ended in a tie because I unvoted, and because my day did not end with me voting someone, the GM modkilled me and did not warn me - and I had forgotten you cant end the day as an unvote.
I was the GM in that game, lol.

You went to effort that was not required. I provided the scum team (you) with a list of fake names to claim in the event of needing to fake-claim. You, for reasons I still don't understand, chose to do your own research and come up with your own fake name that wasn't on the list, which risked you being mechanically caught if the name you chose was already assigned.
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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2469 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:03 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:59 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:58 pm
also, time for one of these:

Final Vote Count

JustAGuyNamedWill (7) Diplomacy&Warfare, foodcoats, bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian, brainbomb, babyspice666, lfischl
BK3K (5) Frogsterking, BobMcBob, Kakarroto, JustAGuyNamedWill
sweetandcool (2) damo666, BunnyGo
lfischl (3) Chaqa, heartthrob24909, Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto (1) Nephthys
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) BK3K
Frogsterking (1) sweetandcool
Chaqa (1) worcej

confirmed town
likely town due to mechanics

well, looks to me someone was actually saved D1
@Kak: did you miss that I am confTown with Sweet's retraction?
well, not necessarily, bob didn't claim yet, there is a slight possibility that he targeted bunny or mafia and delivered something. Very minor, but that's also why I didn't put frog in there

PS.: for second post: not my intention, and I got got myself by myself, i simply forgot/overlooked one command :(

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2470 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:13 pm
@food if you are town: did you target bunny? If not, who did you target?
Yes, I targeted Bunny.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2471 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm

If doc's target is not the NK target do they return success or fail?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2472 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:06 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:13 pm
@food if you are town: did you target bunny? If not, who did you target?
Yes, I targeted Bunny.
noted, for the record.

If you actually are town, it will not be forgotten

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2473 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:09 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm
If doc's target is not the NK target do they return success or fail?
see signup thread, page 2, post 22:

jamie asked:

1. If the Doctor's target is not attacked, does that return a "success" or "failure" message to the Doctor?

MadMonarch answered:

1. Failure. They didn't do anything

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2474 Post by Frogsterking » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:10 pm

worcej wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:36 pm
##vote foodcoats

The comments about the spreadsheet are making me think he’s the scum here FWIW
I noticed that too. Their D1 is scummy in hindsight, they're caught mechanically and their D2 play is scummy again. They wrote some great posts but they're scum.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2475 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:12 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:09 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm
If doc's target is not the NK target do they return success or fail?
see signup thread, page 2, post 22:

jamie asked:

1. If the Doctor's target is not attacked, does that return a "success" or "failure" message to the Doctor?

MadMonarch answered:

1. Failure. They didn't do anything
Oh yes, thanks Kak.
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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2476 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:18 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:09 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:04 pm
If doc's target is not the NK target do they return success or fail?
see signup thread, page 2, post 22:

jamie asked:

1. If the Doctor's target is not attacked, does that return a "success" or "failure" message to the Doctor?

MadMonarch answered:

1. Failure. They didn't do anything
Thanks

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2477 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:21 pm

With my list and the coloured vote count, looking back at my read list from EoN I'm pretty hyped that it looks like I got the game solved with that too.

Well I didn't get all mafia down as lock mafia, but definitely in my POE. I guess I've finally grown a bit better.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2478 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:22 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:21 pm
With my list and the coloured vote count, looking back at my read list from EoN I'm pretty hyped that it looks like I got the game solved with that too.

Well I didn't get all mafia down as lock mafia, but definitely in my POE. I guess I've finally grown a bit better.
I think the game is so close to be totally solved that if we flip scum today (which seems likely) the Mafia team might consider conceding.
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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2479 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:34 pm

lfischl wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:48 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:41 pm
well food claims to get a failure message. If lfischl is proven to not be doc, food might be it. But jamie targeted food and returned ECO, which would be sweet if we did it correct now, then why would town food target sweet?

if food lied as town (doc) about his target and actually went for sweet (dooming bunny and making our mass claim error prone) would actually make sense with the failure message

but why? it makes so much less sense with his zealous stance of forcing town to comply

so I still doubt food is town

instead, I suspect one of the success messages were actually a failure message and one intelligent town just switched it around. I would expect worcej to do that, but Brian or BK3K might do that too

I mean, maybe frogster is doc and changed the message, but chaqa was rb'ed so frog is most likely curfew enforcer anyway

so I'd say 80% worcej is doc, 9 % each for Brian and B2D2, 2% for food

if I've outed you worcej, sorry, nice try, but I think we don't need a clever ploy like this anymore, there is too much info out there
If I was not RBd I don’t see a way I can’t be the doc I’ve checked this multiple times, if the curfew enforcer got chaqa it would only be if the sicko targeted me
You are doc

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2480 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:37 pm

Jesus, I am daft.

So there are three roles that return an alignment, yes? EOC, Detective, and Police Commissioner.

But we only have 2 alignments?

How's that work?

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