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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2461 Post by xorxes » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:58 am

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:51 am
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@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?
I read the statement several times and didn't quite see it and I felt it was in town's best interest to know that that sort of statement was perfectly reasonable to see from towny, even if the conclusion was premature. But I think part of why my defense was as heavy as it was was partially based on me being angry that everyone was fine with using factually incorrect information to justify jumping onto the wagon. The biggest part was xorxes saying Bionic had implied knowledge that xorxes was driven, but of the many times I read through the statement I never once got that impression. If I did I'd probably have agreed with the wagon. Nobody else corrected that point from xorxes, and xorxes never acknowledged my assertion that his claim was false.
I missed that. How did I imply that?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2462 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:07 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:58 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:51 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:44 am
@TrPrado, I would like to know why you defended BM so heavily. Why were you defending him so heavily?
I read the statement several times and didn't quite see it and I felt it was in town's best interest to know that that sort of statement was perfectly reasonable to see from towny, even if the conclusion was premature. But I think part of why my defense was as heavy as it was was partially based on me being angry that everyone was fine with using factually incorrect information to justify jumping onto the wagon. The biggest part was xorxes saying Bionic had implied knowledge that xorxes was driven, but of the many times I read through the statement I never once got that impression. If I did I'd probably have agreed with the wagon. Nobody else corrected that point from xorxes, and xorxes never acknowledged my assertion that his claim was false.
I missed that. How did I imply that?
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Interesting.
I was thinking that I would keep my power quiet and use it night after night. But this revelation does give town info that we can use to do some deducing.

I am also not available tomorrow much... Typical for my weekend.

But I believe damo was scum. And he tried to kill xorxes.

I switched xorxes and Dani around. I expected xorxes to be NK Ed. I was right.

The odd thing I can't. Connect yet is the assassin. Town put your big brain's on this.

Xorxes I am sorry if I wrecked your game again.
I figured you were the Driver when I got the (very late) message from the GM. But I don't think you needed to claim at all yet.

Now, how did BionicMole know that I was the target?
It was pretty explicit, actually

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2463 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:18 am

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:07 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:58 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:51 am


I read the statement several times and didn't quite see it and I felt it was in town's best interest to know that that sort of statement was perfectly reasonable to see from towny, even if the conclusion was premature. But I think part of why my defense was as heavy as it was was partially based on me being angry that everyone was fine with using factually incorrect information to justify jumping onto the wagon. The biggest part was xorxes saying Bionic had implied knowledge that xorxes was driven, but of the many times I read through the statement I never once got that impression. If I did I'd probably have agreed with the wagon. Nobody else corrected that point from xorxes, and xorxes never acknowledged my assertion that his claim was false.
I missed that. How did I imply that?
xorxes wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 am
dargorygel wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:23 am
Interesting.
I was thinking that I would keep my power quiet and use it night after night. But this revelation does give town info that we can use to do some deducing.

I am also not available tomorrow much... Typical for my weekend.

But I believe damo was scum. And he tried to kill xorxes.

I switched xorxes and Dani around. I expected xorxes to be NK Ed. I was right.

The odd thing I can't. Connect yet is the assassin. Town put your big brain's on this.

Xorxes I am sorry if I wrecked your game again.
I figured you were the Driver when I got the (very late) message from the GM. But I don't think you needed to claim at all yet.

Now, how did BionicMole know that I was the target?
It was pretty explicit, actually
It was already after the slip that we were all talking about...if it had been an actual scum slip, then that's what Bionic was saying.

It's clear now it wasn't...

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2464 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:22 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:18 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:07 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:58 am


I missed that. How did I imply that?
xorxes wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:26 am


I figured you were the Driver when I got the (very late) message from the GM. But I don't think you needed to claim at all yet.

Now, how did BionicMole know that I was the target?
It was pretty explicit, actually
It was already after the slip that we were all talking about...if it had been an actual scum slip, then that's what Bionic was saying.

It's clear now it wasn't...
But my point is Bionic never even implied knowing that particular bit of info. He asked xorxes a mechanical question about what xorxes had just said, but never suggested that xorxes would be the one to confirm a driver claim.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2465 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:35 am

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:22 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:18 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:07 am



It was pretty explicit, actually
It was already after the slip that we were all talking about...if it had been an actual scum slip, then that's what Bionic was saying.

It's clear now it wasn't...
But my point is Bionic never even implied knowing that particular bit of info. He asked xorxes a mechanical question about what xorxes had just said, but never suggested that xorxes would be the one to confirm a driver claim.
No, the "scum slip" was he implied that damo wasn't the NK target.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2466 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:38 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:35 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:22 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:18 am


It was already after the slip that we were all talking about...if it had been an actual scum slip, then that's what Bionic was saying.

It's clear now it wasn't...
But my point is Bionic never even implied knowing that particular bit of info. He asked xorxes a mechanical question about what xorxes had just said, but never suggested that xorxes would be the one to confirm a driver claim.
No, the "scum slip" was he implied that damo wasn't the NK target.
Read the statement from xorxes that I bolded

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2467 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:41 am

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:38 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:35 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:22 am


But my point is Bionic never even implied knowing that particular bit of info. He asked xorxes a mechanical question about what xorxes had just said, but never suggested that xorxes would be the one to confirm a driver claim.
No, the "scum slip" was he implied that damo wasn't the NK target.
Read the statement from xorxes that I bolded
Yes. So. If Bionic "safely assumed" that damo wasn't the target: it meant he knew something more than I did.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2468 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:42 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:41 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:38 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:35 am


No, the "scum slip" was he implied that damo wasn't the NK target.
Read the statement from xorxes that I bolded
Yes. So. If Bionic "safely assumed" that damo wasn't the target: it meant he knew something more than I did.
And when dargo confessed to swapping xorxes with damo, the likely extra knowledge that Bionic had was who the real target was.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2469 Post by TrPrado » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:43 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:41 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:38 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:35 am


No, the "scum slip" was he implied that damo wasn't the NK target.
Read the statement from xorxes that I bolded
Yes. So. If Bionic "safely assumed" that damo wasn't the target: it meant he knew something more than I did.
Why are we having this debate now? This is not the point I'm trying to make.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2470 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:46 am

TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:43 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:41 am
TrPrado wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:38 am


Read the statement from xorxes that I bolded
Yes. So. If Bionic "safely assumed" that damo wasn't the target: it meant he knew something more than I did.
Why are we having this debate now? This is not the point I'm trying to make.
I get it. And it's clear you were correct. I'm just having fun talking.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2471 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:53 am

##CALL GM I don't think you answered these questions:
BunnyGo wrote:
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BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:55 am
The Philosoraptor is weird too. Does the player they contact have to respond? Do they have to respond honestly?
##CALL GM
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:00 am
##CALL GM

Are guns and other items taken by a someone in the lynch or NK?
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:02 am
Kitsune wrote:
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No one can be revived from the God thread, only the Graveyard (which clears when someone is revived).
##CALL GM

Is this correct? Does Chuck Testa get screwed whenever Throwback Thursday calls a player back from the dead?
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##CALL GM Does Get Down Mr. President die if they successfully protect the target? It says "Any killing actions targeting this player will be acted upon you instead, and you will kill the attacker." so it's clear the scum killer dies, but the bodyguard?
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:29 am
##CALL GM Can Pepe hand more than one item to the same person on consecutive nights?
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:55 am
##CALL GM

If the magnet activates, what does the driver do? What if the magnet is a person the driver was already selecting?
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:59 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:58 am
If Town eliminates all scum, does Tanner lose if still alive?
##CALL GM

Also, if Tanner somehow gets a gun (like item smith) can they shoot themselves?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2472 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:10 am

Oh dear. I'll have to consult with Chaqa for some of them, but let me see;
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:55 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:55 am
The Philosoraptor is weird too. Does the player they contact have to respond? Do they have to respond honestly?
##CALL GM
No, and no.

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Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:00 am
##CALL GM

Are guns and other items taken by a someone in the lynch or NK?
*I* do not believe so, but this may a different ruling as per Chaqa.

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:02 am
Kitsune wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:59 am

No one can be revived from the God thread, only the Graveyard (which clears when someone is revived).
##CALL GM

Is this correct? Does Chuck Testa get screwed whenever Throwback Thursday calls a player back from the dead?
Correct, as having God Thread access would mean that the player, well, knows as much as the GMs do about the game.

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:15 am
##CALL GM Does Get Down Mr. President die if they successfully protect the target? It says "Any killing actions targeting this player will be acted upon you instead, and you will kill the attacker." so it's clear the scum killer dies, but the bodyguard?
The bodyguard shall live, unless another killing action targeted them.

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:29 am
##CALL GM Can Pepe hand more than one item to the same person on consecutive nights?
I do not believe there is a restriction against giving items to the same player on consecutive nights.

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:55 am
##CALL GM

If the magnet activates, what does the driver do? What if the magnet is a person the driver was already selecting?
It does not matter, as all targets are now the magnet, so both driven targets would be the magnet.

BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:59 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:58 am
If Town eliminates all scum, does Tanner lose if still alive?
##CALL GM

Also, if Tanner somehow gets a gun (like item smith) can they shoot themselves?
I believe yes, the tanner will lose, and no, no roles are allowed to outright shoot themselves.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2473 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:16 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:10 am
Oh dear. I'll have to consult with Chaqa for some of them, but let me see;
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:55 am
##CALL GM

If the magnet activates, what does the driver do? What if the magnet is a person the driver was already selecting?
It does not matter, as all targets are now the magnet, so both driven targets would be the magnet.
##CALL GM Thanks. As a follow up: if the magnet activates, but is then driven away, do the actions follow the magnet, or do they swap with the person who swaps with them?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2474 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:40 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:16 am
##CALL GM Thanks. As a follow up: if the magnet activates, but is then driven away, do the actions follow the magnet, or do they swap with the person who swaps with them?
Ah, I did not word it clear. In the case that both driver and magnet are active, the magnet would simply switch with themselves, nullifying the swap.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2475 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:41 am

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:40 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:16 am
##CALL GM Thanks. As a follow up: if the magnet activates, but is then driven away, do the actions follow the magnet, or do they swap with the person who swaps with them?
Ah, I did not word it clear. In the case that both driver and magnet are active, the magnet would simply switch with themselves, nullifying the swap.
Got it thanks!

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2476 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:02 am

I would start an iso on xorxes, but I don't have access to the bot (again).

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#2477 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:13 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:02 am
I would start an iso on xorxes, but I don't have access to the bot (again).
There’s a link on page 1

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#2478 Post by BobMcBob » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:19 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:13 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:02 am
I would start an iso on xorxes, but I don't have access to the bot (again).
There’s a link on page 1
No, my internet blocks it. I know where to find the link.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2479 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:22 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:19 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:13 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:02 am
I would start an iso on xorxes, but I don't have access to the bot (again).
There’s a link on page 1
No, my internet blocks it. I know where to find the link.
tunnelbear has free access up to some limit that's much less than loading some text.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#2480 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:22 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:22 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:19 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:13 am


There’s a link on page 1
No, my internet blocks it. I know where to find the link.
tunnelbear has free access up to some limit that's much less than loading some text.
https://help.tunnelbear.com/hc/en-us/ar ... users-get-

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