Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Frogsterking]

##unvote

Someone tell me who to trust

Bozo, Kak, Damo

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

[foodcoats]

##unvote

Someone tell me who to trust

Bozo, Kak, Damo

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

Hey frog sorry who did you target

[Chaqa]

##unvote

Someone tell me who to trust

Bozo, Kak, Damo

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

Lfischl/Jamie not yet, but Sweet retracted his "delivered" message which town clears myself and Damo.

[foodcoats]

@bozo sorry if said elsewhere but confirm you targeted worcej?

[brainbomb]

I was on my lunch break and went deep into my head and started thinking what if baby spice visited me and not really lfischl. wouldnt that make them the email hacker and me the pollster, and someone currently under suspicion is actually the mailman.

was a wild thought.

[Kakarroto]

Had anyone other than lfischl and sweet changed their claim?

Excel hungers.

I think not. this should be an up to date list:

babyspice666 → lfischl (got JustAGuyNamedWill)
BK3K → Nephthys !!! -> did instead target bob, got SUCCESS
BobMcBob → sweetandcool
bozotheclown → worcej (got TOWN) + RECEIVED THEIR ROLE (detective)
Brainbomb → babyspice666 (got JustAGuyNamedWill)
BunnyGo → BK3K (unknown)
Chaqa → BobMcBob (said something of an odd result) (got UNDELIVERED)
Damo666 → bozotheclown (got DELIVERED)
Diplomacy&Warfare → brainbomb !!! -> did instead target bob, got Electoral Commissions Officer
foodcoats → BunnyGo (got FAILURE)
Frogsterking → Chaqa (got SUCCESS)
Hamilton Brian → damo666 (got SUCCESS)
heartthrob24909 → Diplomacy&Warfare (got TOWN)
Jamiet99uk → foodcoats (got Electoral Commissions Officer)
Kakarroto → Frogsterking (got SUCCESS)
lfischl → Hamilton Brian (got FAILURE) !!! but brain was target not Brian due to communication with GM
Nephthys → heartthrob24909 (got Diplomacy&Warfare)
sweetandcool → Jamiet99uk (got MAFIA)
Worcej → Kakarroto (got SUCCESS)



while I'm pretty sure you are mafia, I could be wrong or made a mistake. So if you find something or want to declare something, feel free to do so.

[brainbomb]

I thought of it because I was trying to think if mafia had any secret weapons stashed aside deep who no one would even think much about and she came to mind right away

[foodcoats]

Had anyone other than lfischl and sweet changed their claim?

Excel hungers.

I think not. this should be an up to date list:

babyspice666 → lfischl (got JustAGuyNamedWill)
BK3K → Nephthys !!! -> did instead target bob, got SUCCESS
BobMcBob → sweetandcool
bozotheclown → worcej (got TOWN) + RECEIVED THEIR ROLE (detective)
Brainbomb → babyspice666 (got JustAGuyNamedWill)
BunnyGo → BK3K (unknown)
Chaqa → BobMcBob (said something of an odd result) (got UNDELIVERED)
Damo666 → bozotheclown (got DELIVERED)
Diplomacy&Warfare → brainbomb !!! -> did instead target bob, got Electoral Commissions Officer
foodcoats → BunnyGo (got FAILURE)
Frogsterking → Chaqa (got SUCCESS)
Hamilton Brian → damo666 (got SUCCESS)
heartthrob24909 → Diplomacy&Warfare (got TOWN)
Jamiet99uk → foodcoats (got Electoral Commissions Officer)
Kakarroto → Frogsterking (got SUCCESS)
lfischl → Hamilton Brian (got FAILURE) !!! but brain was target not Brian due to communication with GM
Nephthys → heartthrob24909 (got Diplomacy&Warfare)
sweetandcool → Jamiet99uk (got MAFIA)
Worcej → Kakarroto (got SUCCESS)



while I'm pretty sure you are mafia, I could be wrong or made a mistake. So if you find something or want to declare something, feel free to do so.

I’m just making sure my sheet is up to date, won’t have real time until later

[foodcoats]

Bob should claim so we have complete claims list for N1

[Frogsterking]

Bozo, Kak, Damo

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

Hey frog sorry who did you target

Get the hell away from me, scum

[Kakarroto]

I was on my lunch break and went deep into my head and started thinking what if baby spice visited me and not really lfischl. wouldnt that make them the email hacker and me the pollster, and someone currently under suspicion is actually the mailman.

was a wild thought.

that can certainly be a possibility. It would make sense if both are mafia, that babyspice wouldn't target lfischl.

We should check that possibility.

[Frogsterking]

Bozo, Kak, Damo

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

Lfischl/Jamie not yet, but Sweet retracted his "delivered" message which town clears myself and Damo.

Okay so one of jamie/fish is scum or is it not that simple?

[foodcoats]

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

Hey frog sorry who did you target

Get the hell away from me, scum

Wat

Dude just tell us your target

I can’t remember if you
Followed list?

[brainbomb]

I was on my lunch break and went deep into my head and started thinking what if baby spice visited me and not really lfischl. wouldnt that make them the email hacker and me the pollster, and someone currently under suspicion is actually the mailman.

was a wild thought.

that can certainly be a possibility. It would make sense if both are mafia, that babyspice wouldn't target lfischl.

We should check that possibility.

this wouldve been something discussed in mafia chat for all of the scumteam to be aware of. "if you get back a result with a name, it means you are our email hacker and you need to immediately claim so it looks like you are the mailman or the pollster.

thats something baby wouldve been coached on. and I notice how fast and how early she claimed. and it is somewhat of a curiousity I cant quite escape.

and then to add icing to the cake, lfischl corrects her in the game and tells her that it means shes the polster and im the mailman.

pretty clever moment there. if its legit

[foodcoats]

Was it chaqa you targeted frog?

[Chaqa]

Was it chaqa you targeted frog?

he said so a bit back

[Frogsterking]

Was it chaqa you targeted frog?

he said so a bit back

He knows

I returned "Electoral Commissions Officer"

Who did you target? (sorry if this is already posted later, catching up)

hmm ... hmm

this is one post that makes me pause a bit. While the rest of food/lfischl/BK post at start of the day look pretty much like they could be mafia, this one post ... is different.

would maf-food ask maf-D&W this question there? hmm

Yes he would

[Kakarroto]

Did all that business with lfishl, whoever else, jamiet and sweet get sorted out?

Lfischl/Jamie not yet, but Sweet retracted his "delivered" message which town clears myself and Damo.

Okay so one of jamie/fish is scum or is it not that simple?

with sweet targeting jamie and returning mafia (we know he can't be detective since bozo/damo sorted that out), sweet has to be the electoral comissions officer. That means he didn't scan jamie, but who jamie voted for yesterday.

Which was lfischl. So Jamie can't influence his last vote anymore, lfischl is confirmed mafia if sweet is town.

now jamie said he returned the very role sweet is. But he said he scanned food. At the same time, D&W also said he returned that role, but scanned bob (even when the list said to scan brainbomb).

so jamie can't be mail man, he wouldn't be lying about his target. (if he had targeted D&W, that would've been a possibility)

But we also know that sweet has to be that scanned role, so either jamie is middle manager who scanned food (didn't lie about that) who targeted sweet (why would town food lie about that), or D&K is middle manager who scanned bob who targeted sweet.

we haven't heard from bob, but he said he didn't comply with the list, so big chances are that he DIDN'T target sweet, whatever his role is

therefor jamie is more likely middle manager and D&W a mafia role scanner (corrupt cop, or e-mail hacker that copied a role scan)

That said, I see now a chance of jamie being mafia, but I personally townread jamie so I think it's fine. But we should not forget that if D&W flips middle manager.

[Kakarroto]

@food if you are town: did you target bunny? If not, who did you target?

[worcej]

well food claims to get a failure message. If lfischl is proven to not be doc, food might be it. But jamie targeted food and returned ECO, which would be sweet if we did it correct now, then why would town food target sweet?

if food lied as town (doc) about his target and actually went for sweet (dooming bunny and making our mass claim error prone) would actually make sense with the failure message

but why? it makes so much less sense with his zealous stance of forcing town to comply

so I still doubt food is town

instead, I suspect one of the success messages were actually a failure message and one intelligent town just switched it around. I would expect worcej to do that, but Brian or BK3K might do that too

I mean, maybe frogster is doc and changed the message, but chaqa was rb'ed so frog is most likely curfew enforcer anyway

so I'd say 80% worcej is doc, 9 % each for Brian and B2D2, 2% for food

if I've outed you worcej, sorry, nice try, but I think we don't need a clever ploy like this anymore, there is too much info out there

If worcej is doctor, I demand a tirade from him for being outed (:

I've been pretty anti mass claim, because it makes so much of the game just ... like this

I'm being fine if worcej is mad at me for outing right now. I'm kinda mad myself. Hyped because I also thrive in mental mechanics, but the game is pretty much over and what has everyone done? We should really think over if we ever want a mass claim again

I will neither confirm or deny I am mad at you.

But I will confirm I am super confused as I am catching up on what we should or should not do at this point. I am at the point of following directions instead of leading anything here.