MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

Greetings fellow townies and some evil outlaws. Just forgot this game was starting on Sunday. At least there are only 4 pages to read.

And I will claim 100% confirmed vanilla town at first post just to avoid any shenanigans over this.

I smell a bluff here. Why use the unnecessary 'will'? Anybody else get that vibe?

Rivera isn't a native English speaker. Still better than me.
So I want to cover myself from such accusations beforehand. I can't speak perfect English. I know mafia!me could just slip words by accident but there is a high chance that it was just a bad choice of words.

I think rdr knows the difference between 'I claim' and 'I will claim' however as Bozo has pointed out rdr has previous. However I am leaving my vote as it is.

[damo666]

Greetings fellow townies and some evil outlaws. Just forgot this game was starting on Sunday. At least there are only 4 pages to read.

And I will claim 100% confirmed vanilla town at first post just to avoid any shenanigans over this.

I smell a bluff here. Why use the unnecessary 'will'? Anybody else get that vibe?

It is possible, at some point rdrivera will draw mafia, and I am curious to see what he does.

Here was rdrivera's first post in M1023:

Hello fellow Sheeps, forgot this game was starting yesterday so missed first night fun. At least it's just 9 pages to read.

To avoid any shenanigans I will say I am a 100% confirmed vanilla Sheep
and will sheep anyone I think is the Sheppard.

Although the "unnecessary will" is apparently not alignment indicative, I do find the similarity of the posts suspicious, especially the part about forgetting the game had started.

I think it is almost certain Bozo and rdr are not both scum.

[damo666]

Changed my mind.

##vote Chaqa

The end vote is curious.

Chaqa is very dangerous as scum and nowhere near as good as town.

[damo666]

Btw pub poker tonight so I may miss EON

[Chaqa]

@ghug I think it's interesting that Bozo picked up on what I had done, so he's reading thoroughly. Probably town.

Others.. hmmm

Is it just me or is the most common thing in mafia on this site for someone to say “I think X is Y because of how they responded to me/voted for me/read me” - it makes it so easy to be pocketed.

That isn't what I said, however. I think you've also missed the very thing I am alluding to, which is a bit odd.

[Chaqa]

Changed my mind.

##vote Chaqa

The end vote is curious.

Chaqa is very dangerous as scum and nowhere near as good as town.

Disingenuous from Damo, who has played with me when I have had several very good town games.

[Chaqa]

Worcej is usually much quicker to vote, and first voting later in the day is scum-indicative.

##Vote worcej

[Chaqa]

Someone post a fake reads list.

Here are ten examples of possible reads for town players:

"Player A seems genuinely concerned about the well-being of the group and is actively trying to gather information to help us make a decision."
"Player B has consistently provided logical and well-reasoned arguments during discussions."
"Player C has shown a willingness to change their stance based on new evidence presented by others."
"Player D has been consistently engaged in the discussion and actively trying to help the group reach a decision."
"Player E has been consistently voting with the majority and seems to be trying to follow the group's consensus."
"Player F is actively trying to help the group by suggesting possible leads to follow."
"Player G is providing a lot of information and actively trying to help the group understand the situation."
"Player H is actively trying to help the group by pointing out inconsistencies in other players' statements."
"Player I has been consistently trying to keep the discussion focused and on track."
"Player J has been consistently providing helpful insights and ideas during the discussion."


Here are three examples of possible reads for scum players:

"Player X seems to be trying to mislead the group by providing false information or distracting from the real issues at hand."
"Player Y is consistently trying to manipulate the group's decision-making process by sowing confusion and discord."
"Player Z is consistently trying to protect themselves by feigning innocence or confusion and not providing useful information to the group."

Also, for reference for all the people not reading.

[Hamilton Brian]

I see. Thank you for explaining. Whatever you are planning, I hope it works out.

Something about this sticks in my craw. Is Yav town hoping that Balki is also town, because if both are town, they don't know it yet.

Yeah, no. Mafia, or mafia teammates, wouldn't be so brazen to make such a post so openly. Right?

[Chaqa]

I see. Thank you for explaining. Whatever you are planning, I hope it works out.

Something about this sticks in my craw. Is Yav town hoping that Balki is also town, because if both are town, they don't know it yet.

Yeah, no. Mafia, or mafia teammates, wouldn't be so brazen to make such a post so openly. Right?

Interesting catch. Time to re-read

[Hamilton Brian]

What part is abhorrent?

I don't remember now if it was my reaction to the role or to the claiming of the role. It was a poor choice of a word, for sure.

[damo666]

Changed my mind.

##vote Chaqa

The end vote is curious.

Chaqa is very dangerous as scum and nowhere near as good as town.

Disingenuous from Damo, who has played with me when I have had several very good town games.

Sorry, poor wording but you are definitely better at scum than town. 'Nowhere near' was an exagerration.

[damo666]

Someone post a fake reads list.

Here are ten examples of possible reads for town players:

"Player A seems genuinely concerned about the well-being of the group and is actively trying to gather information to help us make a decision."
"Player B has consistently provided logical and well-reasoned arguments during discussions."
"Player C has shown a willingness to change their stance based on new evidence presented by others."
"Player D has been consistently engaged in the discussion and actively trying to help the group reach a decision."
"Player E has been consistently voting with the majority and seems to be trying to follow the group's consensus."
"Player F is actively trying to help the group by suggesting possible leads to follow."
"Player G is providing a lot of information and actively trying to help the group understand the situation."
"Player H is actively trying to help the group by pointing out inconsistencies in other players' statements."
"Player I has been consistently trying to keep the discussion focused and on track."
"Player J has been consistently providing helpful insights and ideas during the discussion."


Here are three examples of possible reads for scum players:

"Player X seems to be trying to mislead the group by providing false information or distracting from the real issues at hand."
"Player Y is consistently trying to manipulate the group's decision-making process by sowing confusion and discord."
"Player Z is consistently trying to protect themselves by feigning innocence or confusion and not providing useful information to the group."

Also, for reference for all the people not reading.

Spell it out please, I don't know what you're getting at.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.4:

Chaqa (3) – BunnyGo, ghug, damo666
BunnyGo (1) - Balki Bartokomous
damo666 (1) - Hamilton Brian
lfischl (1) - bo_sox48
KoalaAttack (1) - bozotheclown
Bozotheclown (1) - KoalaAttack
Hamilton Brian (1) - yavuzovic
Worcej (1) - Chaqa

Currently CHAQA is heading for Boot Hill.

Day 1 ends in 7 hrs 10 mins.

lfischl, pyxxy, rdrivera2005, worcej need to get busy votin'.

[damo666]

I see. Thank you for explaining. Whatever you are planning, I hope it works out.

Something about this sticks in my craw. Is Yav town hoping that Balki is also town, because if both are town, they don't know it yet.

Yeah, no. Mafia, or mafia teammates, wouldn't be so brazen to make such a post so openly. Right?

Probably townyav assuming Balki is town.

Just possible it's a Yav scumslip.

Very unlikely both are scum.

[damo666]

I'll be gone from 1 hour hence for rest of day though I may sneak a mobile peek on break.

So if anyone has anything important to say (Chaqa?) please speak up soon.

[Hamilton Brian]

Probably townyav assuming Balki is town.

Just possible it's a Yav scumslip.

Very unlikely both are scum.

I think that's the simplest explanation. I get panned for things I write which can get misconstrued. I'm going to assume this is the same.

[Hamilton Brian]

I'll be gone from 1 hour hence for rest of day though I may sneak a mobile peek on break.

So if anyone has anything important to say (Chaqa?) please speak up soon.

I want to go back to your vote on Chaqa. I feel like you're putting a lot of weight on the END vote. I took that as just joking. Are you saying you don't see it that way?

And I'm looking now to see if Chaqa addressed it with you.

[Hamilton Brian]

Ah, Chaqa did respond with that Damo was being disingenuous.

Didn't address the END vote that Damo seemed focused on.

[damo666]

I'll be gone from 1 hour hence for rest of day though I may sneak a mobile peek on break.

So if anyone has anything important to say (Chaqa?) please speak up soon.

I want to go back to your vote on Chaqa. I feel like you're putting a lot of weight on the END vote. I took that as just joking. Are you saying you don't see it that way?

And I'm looking now to see if Chaqa addressed it with you.

Well he's switched to worcej now so it makes no difference I guess. Do you (or anyone else) get what Chaqa is referring to in ghug's "Player A" post?