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bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:44 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:41 am

I'll be back D4

Maybe. Hope I'm wrong... hope Demon doesn’t just come back and shoot the fuck out of someone because nobody will hammer and than get the vengeful.

The universal backup, assuming their is one, already became another day vig, it seems you may be missing that information in your statement. Unless you think RHK is the backup, which seems very unlikely, I do not think it helps us to hammer him.

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:59 am

The commuter should never claim here

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:47 am

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:46 am

Doesn't the dayvig have one shot.

Dargo was shot.

So

There's no more shots.

Why are you worried bozo

The universal backup gets the power of the first mafia to get killed, in this case it was the day vig, so the universal backup is now a day vig with a shot left.

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:05 am

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:47 am

BesharamSabi wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:46 am

Doesn't the dayvig have one shot.

Dargo was shot.

So

There's no more shots.

Why are you worried bozo

The universal backup gets the power of the first mafia to get killed, in this case it was the day vig, so the universal backup is now a day vig with a shot left.

Yea but the shot is taken. There's no more shots.

Universal back up doesn't get another shot

Chaqa wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:42 pm

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:37 pm

##CALL GM: If the day vig has used their shot, and are then the first mafia to get killed, would the universal backup get a new shot?

Yes

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:04 am

Princess Neon wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:59 am

The commuter should never claim here

That is fine as long as we are in agreement that RHK is not the commuter.

bozotheclown wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:13 am

Neon's push to hammer RHK before he gets back make me worried he could flip commuter.

damo666 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:35 am

So. I think Demon's silence probably indicates he is scum (Vengeful?) and Bozo is town .

I am not commuter, I am VT as I claimed previously.

##vote Demon

@bozo if you want me last to sacrifice myself I can invite and revote but I'd rather live.

I dislike Neon's attitude.

@Neon please state your solve with reasons. If it includes me you are wrong so your stance is ridiculous.

I think the final 3 are RHK Bo and Ike but that's very much a guess.

Wrt continuing the game I would prefer to despite the mess. Imo if we win it counts and if scum win it doesn't so no lose situation.

The GM seems to have said we continue so we should do that and play properly and do our best. Petition the GM privately if you wish.

pyxxy wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:59 am

I'm caught up from where I got pissed off and went and watch youtube for the rest of the flight.

It's past 2:00am for me (later addition: when I started writing this) and I've been awake for almost 20 hours. So I'm not confident. But this game is already such a shit show that if this is a mistake then so be it. Also I half expected to be shot by now. But I think scum is still holding out hope that the real commuter cc's Demon.

Brain gave me the scan (scrying stone) N1 and I scanned Demon N2 and he's guilty as fuck.
(later addition: actually I had to double check my pm, and it doesn't say who I got it from, just describes the item. more on this near the bottom of this post)

There's no way Rumi+scum guesses that raw so I can't believe how fucking lucky they are to track+shoot Inventor N1.

It all makes so much fucking sense why Demon was fishing N2 for someone to claim getting a gun from brain. They knew I had something and wanted to see if I would flinch. Once they saw that N2 ended without me claiming the gun and also without shooting anyone N2, they correctly assumed that I had the scan so Rumi shot darg and then got modkilled to refresh the power. Which again, that's fucked up and a clear abuse of the rules. Like, I hope you're okay Rumi, but I don't know what to believe.

Demon has been openly scumming or whatever the right word is. He's fucking scum. He's been pushing the scum agenda this whole time. Bluster, vitriol, clogging the thread, etc. I'm convinced he's vengeful. It's the obvious explanation for his entire game.

I don't have the brain power rn to make sense of Rumi's post in its entirety. Eg I don't know why Rumi reveals that scum picked tracker. Granted they don't know for sure if I scanned last night, nor if I scanned a town or scum person, nor if/when I would reveal the result.

My gut tells me that it was a play at the subconscious, to get us to think that this was all planned because Demon was the tracker and was going to die first and scum of course doesn't want their backup to become a tracker especially when 3 out of 4 town PRs will be dead (after Rumi shots darg) meaning the role would be pretty useless and so wow it would be so safe and easy to vote Demon. off today without giving it critical thought. This also factors into why I'm convinced that Demon is vengeful. Demon's and Rumi's behavior just makes way more sense if this is all true.

I think this basically town clears bozo. I got the scan, not Demon, so that's all bullshit.

(this is my oh shit realization section, it's 2:41am and I just thought about this)
Okay I went back through bozo's scenario list and here's the thing. Bozo I'll need you to double check this because god I'm so fucking tired. I think it's mechanically possible that I was given the fake scan item. I don't think I can rule it out. The pm doesn't say who I got it from and the rules explain that the fake item will be named exactly the same, except it will always return guilty. On top of this I spent a good bit of N1 arguing that scan should be handed out first, so scum would know that I would be eager and receptive getting it N1.

And I'm taking Rumi at her word when we know that she lied about her role. Why am I doing that? There's not actually any proof that there is a tracker. I'm the one reading into her lies. And then she sets up Demon for the miskill? And it's just bad luck that I scanned Demon? I guess I gave some hints that I was interested in a Damo and Demon scum pair, and I had moved past wanting to deal with bo. Maybe scum just wanted me to report on my scan asap no matter what. Either it nets a miskill or I get miskilled or both.

I think I need to just stop this is all getting to be and it's almost 3am and I gotta work tomorrow. My last thought I was going to say before I had the fake scan realization is that I would love to call Neon's bluff. It just feels like a bluff to me. Feels wrong. I don't trust it. The frustration feels real but the reasoning for it falls flat. That's all for now. I don't know when I'll be back.