M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

Oh my it is the oldest and the wisest

What wisdom have you to share?

Not much, apparently

[bozotheclown]

Why did you deliberately cast a vote you knew would not be officially counted?

As I said, to draw attention to what Fluminator was doing with his voting.

Are you familiar with jasnah? Do you think claiming miller D1 as scum is something she would likely do?

1. What do you think was Fluminator's motivation? Do you accept his explanation that it was an elaborate scum hunting mechanism?

2. I'm not very familiar with Jasnah. I think I've seen Jasnah play once before. I think there is a more than random chance this was a (fairly bad) scum gambit, as I have already said.

I think Fluminator was joking about it being a scum hunting method. Bonatogether tried to vote for TheFlyingBoat early and the vote was counted for Fluminator because Bonatogether voted for FlyingBoat. I think Fluminator was just testing the bot. Or maybe he was looking for reactions, in which case it could be considered a scum bunting method.

For jasnah to be scum, what she has done would be worse than a "fairly bad" scum play. I don't see how she could expect a positive result from that as scum.

[Fluminator]

Although I wouldn't actually hate it if jasnas dies at this point. I just didn't like the people deciding on it right away as an excuse to not look at other players.

[snowy801]

worcej, I'm not an amateur to misconstrue you so. I ISO'd you before making that post, and saw in truth that you spoke of nobody but yourself. Best I can say is you thought Durga was scummy for the way she reacted to Jasnah/Bunny, and that you supported kgray wagon on account of "too good at scum", which is nothing really.

You can tell me or not tell me whatever you want, because for all that this group pretends otherwise nothing is not-alignment-indicative, but what you have told me so far says you're scum.

Why don't you try having a real opinion, for once? Hit me with it.

So my opinion on jasnah is not a real opinion? Nor is the opinion on BG? Nor the opinion on Sabi? Nor the opinion on the no kill? Nor the opinion that Durga is just treading water? Nor the opinions of all the people I grouped?

Fuck off painting me as if I have done nothing. Just because you don’t agree with my opinions or thoughts doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

My vote has been on Jasnah because she needs to go. She made an anti-town play and has fucked off. Most caught scum usually just stfu and stop playing when they are caught. Her play is totally in the realm of options because there are enough ‘I am too smart for my own good’-type people here that would slot her as town.

I think this is town Worcej.

What in particular strikes you as town?

[Doom427]

I saw the complaint that I wasn't scum hunting, and I'd try, but so far it looks like scum hunting amounts to trolling people, and then getting counter trolled, and then seeing how people react to that, and then getting out the tea leaves and divination charts for a consultation if that's a scum or a town reading.

If that's scum hunting, I don't think it works. I don't really understand how this game works without going off role information and death flips. No argument I've seen has shown me any evidence at all anyone besides Jasnah is more likely to be scum. This play only makes sense from a mafia player or a miller player who just gave up.

Anyway, I've got a romantic eye doctor's visit planned at 5 (near chicago like besharam, /wave, wishing you luck on the date), so I won't be here at all an hour before votes. If y'all end up hanging me, I would like my last will and testament to state I want gamer f's in the chat from all mourners.

[Durga]

Haha I really like doom. You're not getting daykilled doom don't worry.

[Tom Bombadil]

I’m driving a car until deadline, so I guess I’ll try to be at the end but no promises.

[Fluminator]

How has doom figured out the truth behind scum hunting already.

[Tom Bombadil]

A mafia veteran with that analysis

[kgray]

A mafia veteran with that analysis

Well he has provided more insight than you have this game, Tom

[Chaqa]

Doom is just saying what I've always said.

That's why I don't scumhunt, I townhunt.

Establish townreads, defend them, vote outside of them, catch scum.

[snowy801]

Anyone feel like flashing Tom?

You know, I was playing in this other place recently and they called flash mobs Chinese Fire Drills which was pretty funny

[Doom427]

Haha I really like doom. You're not getting daykilled doom don't worry.

TY

I've been told I act bitchy over text before (well, they used a more severe word that bitchy), so whenever I act more natural I'm always worried about being too rude. But if you can't be yourself online, where can you? Glad to know y'all find it charming instead.

I am curious about if there will be some interesting shifts in votes come vote closer to night time. I have an actual date after doctor, but I'll try and actually respond and post some during night chat.

[ghug]

##vote worcej

I’m fine with this.

I understand where Durga is coming from regarding no scum motivation for jasnahs claim, but 1) there is no town motivation either and 2) she hasn’t exactly done on and explained herself.

Still think jasnah is probably scum. Still think worcej knows she is scum hence the snap reaction when bunny cc’d.

Chaqa is whatever - I suppose he falls into the camp of good scum players, so I don’t hate that wagon either.

You're not a person I expected to feel this way.

[Durga]

I need to go socialize with coworkers over zoom but I'll be back around 5 something

[President Eden]

I saw the complaint that I wasn't scum hunting, and I'd try, but so far it looks like scum hunting amounts to trolling people, and then getting counter trolled, and then seeing how people react to that, and then getting out the tea leaves and divination charts for a consultation if that's a scum or a town reading.

If that's scum hunting, I don't think it works. I don't really understand how this game works without going off role information and death flips. No argument I've seen has shown me any evidence at all anyone besides Jasnah is more likely to be scum. This play only makes sense from a mafia player or a miller player who just gave up.

Anyway, I've got a romantic eye doctor's visit planned at 5 (near chicago like besharam, /wave, wishing you luck on the date), so I won't be here at all an hour before votes. If y'all end up hanging me, I would like my last will and testament to state I want gamer f's in the chat from all mourners.

GOAT

[Chaqa]

Anyone feel like flashing Tom?

You know, I was playing in this other place recently and they called flash mobs Chinese Fire Drills which was pretty funny

I could actually get behind that.

[BunnyGo]

I mean that's my point, why is contentment and apathy reason for people to say "I don't like the Flum wagon/I trust his reads/let's not vote him d1"

Jealousy and self loathing mostly

[ghug]

I mean, I think Jamie is at least as apathetic and content as Flum and I didn't like his post letting us know he was waiting for the bus.... I'd probably vote for him.

I don't get scum!worcej vibes but it's difficult for me to read him for personal reasons.

I dislike this push on damo but I don't really see Durga and ghug being scum together here.

This push on damo that currently has zero voters?

Yeah, it felt like trying to set up a counter wagon and since nobody is explaining why they scumread damo, and I have several times seen (and been a part of) people targeting damo as an early miskill because he does weird damo things, it's suspicious to me.

I explained why I scumread damo. When he's scum, he tries to emulate the quirky damo we all know and love with a bunch of terrible math and mechanical discussion, because he has a hard time replicating his off-the-wall reading process. That's what I see here. And I trust Flum's gut.

[damo666]

I think the more recent obvtown claim is Durga's issue with damo.

I missed this. Yep, he double down on calling PE obvtown. But I don´t really think this is so unusual to Damo.

He did not double down at all? He immediately relented

It was the second time I obvtowned PE. When you questioned me I expanded my position I did not relent. I still think PE is highly likely town. This going after me us bizarre.