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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:08 am
by ghug
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:46 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:43 am
I feel like if it's not the Chaqa interaction we can find something that definitely proves that this isn't a normal response for him.
i'm not especially out to prove that... are you?
It seems potentially slam dunkable so I would like bozo to do it.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:09 am
by President Eden
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:08 am
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:46 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:43 am
I feel like if it's not the Chaqa interaction we can find something that definitely proves that this isn't a normal response for him.
i'm not especially out to prove that... are you?
It seems potentially slam dunkable so I would like bozo to do it.
:lol:

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:49 am
damo666 wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:26 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:44 pm


I would be interested in the list of combinations you have eliminated.
From the 35 4 of 7 I eliminated any teams with the following pairs:

Bona PE
Bona Sword
Bozo TFB
So you have eliminated the players not in those 7 based only on town reading them?
Yep

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am
by lfischl
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:33 am
BK3K wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:14 am
I'm out at the bars and drinking. Fuck you koala, shit ass bitch

Trying to draw the vote for lulz
bishkek this is funny but not a good idea
^ yeah why?

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:37 am
by damo666
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:24 am
i can't ever read ghug

someone explain ghug reading skills to me
He's town.

When he's scum he forgets to tie his shoelaces.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:40 am
by damo666
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:42 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:37 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:33 am
How does this compare to Koala's reaction to Chaqa last game?
His reaction is identical, but it’s hardly the same cause. I was downright an asshole, this just feeds into my theory that koala is faking his meta

##Vote Koala
Occam's razor says it's this but could he also just be really weirdly averse to harsh language?
I think he is averse to being the object of 'cussing'.

The incident probably best ignored.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:44 am
by bozotheclown
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:08 am
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:46 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:43 am
I feel like if it's not the Chaqa interaction we can find something that definitely proves that this isn't a normal response for him.
i'm not especially out to prove that... are you?
It seems potentially slam dunkable so I would like bozo to do it.
I would be surprised if KoalaAttack is mafia based on some of his questions this game about low participants and mis-kills, and I do not see any reason why he would fake a reaction like that if he was mafia.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am
by bozotheclown
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:49 am
damo666 wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:26 pm


From the 35 4 of 7 I eliminated any teams with the following pairs:

Bona PE
Bona Sword
Bozo TFB
So you have eliminated the players not in those 7 based only on town reading them?
Yep
Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:50 am
by ghug
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:49 am


So you have eliminated the players not in those 7 based only on town reading them?
Yep
Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?
I wanted you to read and analyze thousands of words.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:57 am
by bozotheclown
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:50 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am


Yep
Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?
I wanted you to read and analyze thousands of words.
Is there a reason you responded to tis question to damo?

Do you still think TFB is town because he said his D1 counter wagons were bad? TFB has tried to take enough credit for it that it seems like something he learned in mafia college.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:00 am
by ghug
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:57 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:50 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am


Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?
I wanted you to read and analyze thousands of words.
Is there a reason you responded to tis question to damo?

Do you still think TFB is town because he said his D1 counter wagons were bad? TFB has tried to take enough credit for it that it seems like something he learned in mafia college.
I was reading while boarding a flight and misscrolled. It was meant as a response to your response to me.

I do. I'm not seeing him take a ton of credit. I've been generally underwhelmed with almost everyone today, but the universal nature of that makes me not want to reconsider specific townreads because they haven't been impressive.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:01 am
by President Eden
lmfao mafia college

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:10 am
by bozotheclown
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:00 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:57 am
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:50 am


I wanted you to read and analyze thousands of words.
Is there a reason you responded to tis question to damo?

Do you still think TFB is town because he said his D1 counter wagons were bad? TFB has tried to take enough credit for it that it seems like something he learned in mafia college.
I was reading while boarding a flight and misscrolled. It was meant as a response to your response to me.

I do. I'm not seeing him take a ton of credit. I've been generally underwhelmed with almost everyone today, but the universal nature of that makes me not want to reconsider specific townreads because they haven't been impressive.
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:14 am
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:28 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:35 am


I mean there is the alternative explanation, namely that damo did not care about his contrived read list when he was receiving a good amount of pressure entering EoD and just panicked and tried to ride momentum to get out and was afraid going head to head against me would get his head on a pike.

So he acted in pure self-preservation and went on lfischl thinking he was an easy kill. After seeing no vote gets on it for 3 hours (I am assuming given the timing of it he didn't see Flum's as he was writing his post) he decided to explicitly note that he wanted to join a popular wagon to save Chaqa.

Then he jumped to Bona, despite Bona being on his unwilling to vote list because he was the wagon with the most real steam behind it.

Then after seeing Bona's wagon lose two votes and a Bunny wagon rise quickly, picking up 4 votes in 3 minutes, Damo hops on a few minutes after and votes Bunny in an attempt to ensure he doesn't become the largest counterwagon as Bona's seems destined to fall apart momentum wise. In doing so he votes for yet another person he was unwilling to vote for and does so at EOD.

Being flexible and doing what you think is best when given shit options is good town play, but if I am to believe that was what Damo was doing I'd expect him to TRY to do something before resigning himself to making that tradeoff. But he didn't.

He shades Eden for something that to me seems NAI and then posts his contrived reads list which he then promptly ignores. At no point does he ever push a serious case or wagon on Eden despite tossing a vote on him. And yes he shades me as well, but he doesn't bother ever pushing it either with even a vote. To me that's indicative that Damo is scum scared to go to war head to head and lose not that he's on a scum team with the reads he made but never pushed.

Can't fault his read because it clearly worked to burn one miskill, but it's a shame we let it happen.
From memory this is a pretty good summary of my town self pres vote r asoning.

Re the weakness of the Eden or any other case it was day 1 before any flip! The only hard data we had was FLum vig and a dead cop
I mean then find something on vibes and push it in a serious manner. I was the leading wagon and instead of hopping on the competing wagons at the time, I called them stupid like they were and pushed a wagon on someone I believed to be scum with an actual case.

Yes, it is D1. No, that isn't an excuse to do fuck all. Like yes there is a shitposting and RVS phase to it, but given that mafia have complete info about alignments and their own objective, you can eventually piece together a map of who is what on D1 with some level of accuracy.

You'll be wrong plenty, but like I said, that's not an excuse, because it's better for townies to do things that way than self-pres and punt on the day.
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:08 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:58 am
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:14 am


I mean then find something on vibes and push it in a serious manner. I was the leading wagon and instead of hopping on the competing wagons at the time, I called them stupid like they were and pushed a wagon on someone I believed to be scum with an actual case.

Yes, it is D1. No, that isn't an excuse to do fuck all. Like yes there is a shitposting and RVS phase to it, but given that mafia have complete info about alignments and their own objective, you can eventually piece together a map of who is what on D1 with some level of accuracy.

You'll be wrong plenty, but like I said, that's not an excuse, because it's better for townies to do things that way than self-pres and punt on the day.
Can you explain how "you can eventually piece together a map of who is what on D1 with some level of accuracy" on D1? Considering you ended voting Bunny I don't see such level of accuracy.
I am tryng to distinguish if you are just too pretentious or scum pushing for misskils.
I repeatedly urged people to hop off both of the leading wagons and vote for damo, but no one listened. I only voted for bungo to save Bona who anyone with a brain can tell is town.
Sorry for the long posts, but I did not want to take the quotes out of context.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 am
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:49 am


So you have eliminated the players not in those 7 based only on town reading them?
Yep
Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?
No. Still confident ghuq, Chaqa, rdr, Koala and B3 all town.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:33 am
by damo666
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:01 am
lmfao mafia college
It's in Palermo

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:54 am
by bozotheclown
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:35 am


Yep
Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?
No. Still confident ghuq, Chaqa, rdr, Koala and B3 all town.
I find your clear demarcation between your town reads and scum suspects suspicious. Have you not added any new town reads D2?

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:12 am
by damo666
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:54 am
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:47 am


Has anything lately made you reconsider your town reads?
No. Still confident ghuq, Chaqa, rdr, Koala and B3 all town.
I find your clear demarcation between your town reads and scum suspects suspicious. Have you not added any new town reads D2?
Got to make some assumptions or ai may as well guess randomly.

B3 is my weakest townread.

Of my scum 7 I don't particularly scumread the 3 Bs but I have no reason to towncore any.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:40 am
by rdrivera2005
After a night of sleep I think I sorted Koala's reaction. It's not the he really got offended by BK, but he is the kind of people who is very strict with things: "I said I will vote anyone cussing me so I will even if it was a joke".

Also, I don't like the way Eden reacted to this. It's like he was sensing to see if there is enough support to a Koala wagon without committing to it.

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:30 pm
by Chaqa
Imagine getting offended by cussing in a game about organized crime killing people to take over a town

Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:50 pm
by Bonatogether
damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:37 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:24 am
i can't ever read ghug

someone explain ghug reading skills to me
He's town.

When he's scum he forgets to tie his shoelaces.
accurate