M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[brainbomb]

this would be really shocking if damo and jamie could be scum here with how theyve played. as much as it kicks my pride to admit

[brainbomb]

damo is not vocal as scum. hes frugal with votes as scum.

jamie did indeed provide reasoning on emc being scum. and his case on me and how hes fought me does seem confident and very hard nosed which hes not really great at as scum

[brainbomb]

Im the PR yall didnt want lol

[brainbomb]

Kakarroto
Day-1 00:12
page 42 / orig You know, it's not to late to come to jamie and lynch a scum today, it's surely not emc and I don't like the bunny wagon

ugh. thats no buenontoo

[brainbomb]

Kit - Kak - Fox

feels like the right answer

[brainbomb]

kit posts more at night.

thats not a timezone issue. thats an access to scumchat issue.

I know this has been a recurring theme in... basically every game of this I’ve been in on webDip, but has keeping a low profile at night ever really helped us? I’m mindful of my last Town game, where I was trying to keep a mildly scummy profile to keep my PR safe, and ended up getting flashlynched.

Maybe people hold their post walls until 2 minutes before Dawn? Beyond that I don’t see any point in trying to censor ourselves right now. Much like Day 1, we’re talking to posterity as much as our immediate peers. With two night kills in play, more information before End of Phase is pro Town, not less.

this feels like scum looking for ideas on who to kill.

[brainbomb]

user=Foxcastle
Foxcastle
Night-1 23:12
page 47 / orig I buy Brainbomb's explanation about his weird re-vote. Doesn't mean he's town, but that doesn't look all that scummy to me

smells like tmi bigtime.
way too reasonable, far too trusting right away.

[Jamiet99uk]

at about 3 min left she says #vote bozo and encourages ppl to join her on bozo wagon

problem: she isnt on the bozo wagon

both jamie and I tell her that her vote wasnt valid and she revotes emc post end if day. but her invalid vote doesnt show up in the vc

This is a valid point. (Note the invalid vote doesn't show up because the bot doesn't count a single "#").

@Kitsune? Comments?

[brainbomb]

kak eon1 reads

About in order I think people are:
Vecna - most likely town
brainbomb - probably town
xorxes - probably town
BobMcBob - leaning town
Nephthys - leaning town
Foxcastle - leaning town
rdrivera200 - townish
BunnyGo - townish
Kitsune - townish
damo666 - in the pool of the last scum
flash2015 - in the pool of the last scum
KalelChase - in the pool of the last scum
Squigs44 - in the pool of the last scum
foodcoats - leaning scum
bozotheclown - leaning scum
Jamiet99uk - I think he is the serial killer

this list looks like kak is scum. definetely

[brainbomb]

jamie, did this kak read on you being the sk ever make any sense?

[brainbomb]

the question is if kak put foodcoats in his scumreads and fox in his town.

hmmmmm.

I suggest we lynch among fix, kit, and kak

and see what foodcoats does

[damo666]

I have to believe that AT LEAST one of Kalel or Damo is scum (I can't believe three Mafia bussed emc, perhaps one or two). This is assuming that of course me and BB are both town.

Agreed. And I'm VT ( as brain says I'm obvious as scum).

##vote Kalel.

If Kalel flips town then very likely that BOTH Bob and Bunny are scum.

Kalel karrot food I think which is a slight shame because Bunny Karrot Food would be much funnier.

[brainbomb]

3) On day 1, since I don't understand many people scum-hunting techniques, I think the chance we mislynch is 1 in 18. . To answer 3b... no if we think we can really catch scum on D1 we should do it, but it's certainly above my skills. I'll say that I don't hold much weight to 'metas'.. this is my 5th game and I've changed each time... maybe I'll stabilize eventually. Oh, and other than Bunny, Kit, Vecna and Jamie, no one else, whose not an overt @$$hole, really stands out for me.

There's my big throw up post for the afternoon. Thanks for asking.

how does kit stand out to you this game?
what exactly is your thoughts on her

[Jamiet99uk]

jamie, did this kak read on you being the sk ever make any sense?

No. I stand by the response I made at the time. It was basically just "Jamie feels off" expanded to a novella-length ramble that still actually didn't say any more than "Jamie feels off". At best it was shambling nonsense; at worst it appeared fabricated.

[Jamiet99uk]

So what is the scenario where BB is not the vig? Mafia held their NK to make it look like BB got roleblocked?

I am believing BB...and his reasoning appears sound. ##VOTE Jamiet

None of this provides a legitimate reason to vote for me, by the way.

Flash has been off this game.

[Jamiet99uk]

Emc is paying more attention to the game now, than when he was still alive.

[BunnyGo]

Bunny's list of players from most handsome and towny, to most ugly and scummy:

1) Bunny (Me!)
2) BB (he's the vig!)
3) Fox (hmm)
4) Kitsune (maybe she's lurking?)
5) Jamie (probably town)
6) Kak (not sure what happened last night)
7) Kalel (possibly scum)
8) everyone else is scummy-ish at least

Why does "hmm" Foxcastle rank two places above "probably town" Jamie?

Might be an error. But this was my gut order filling it in.

[BunnyGo]

DAY ONE FINAL VOTES
e.m.c^42 (5) - Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk, BobMcBob, Kitsune, Vecna
BunnyGo (4) - Nephthys, xorxes, e.m.c^42, brainbomb
BobMcBob (4) - Squigs44, damo666, bozotheclown, KalelChase
Jamiet99uk (2) - Kakarroto, rdrivera2005
damo666 (2) - BunnyGo, flash2015
brainbomb (1) - foodcoats

DAY TWO FINAL VOTES
bozotheclown (6) - BobMcBob, BunnyGo, Kitsune, damo666, Foxcastle, Kakarroto
brainbomb (5) - Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown, KalelChase, foodcoats, rdrivera2005
Kakarroto (1) - flash2015
flash2015 (1) - Vecna
Jamiet99uk (1) - brainbomb

Thanks for providing this

[Jamiet99uk]

Bunny's list of players from most handsome and towny, to most ugly and scummy:

1) Bunny (Me!)
2) BB (he's the vig!)
3) Fox (hmm)
4) Kitsune (maybe she's lurking?)
5) Jamie (probably town)
6) Kak (not sure what happened last night)
7) Kalel (possibly scum)
8) everyone else is scummy-ish at least

Why does "hmm" Foxcastle rank two places above "probably town" Jamie?

Might be an error. But this was my gut order filling it in.

Your instinct is that Fox is more town than me because hmm.

Could you define "hmm" more specifically?

[BunnyGo]

Interesting things:

1. Everybody who was on the Bozo wagon EoD2 is still alive.

2. There were two town and the SK on the D2 brainbomb wagon, plus two unknowns.

3. On the D1 emc wagon you'd assume there was at least 1 busser. Foxcastle was first on, repeatedly claimed his vote was a policy lynch rather than pushing any other angle, and may have felt unable to move off without looking super scummy.

Correction: I was first on. I jumped close to EOD