WebMafia Olympics: Bonus Qualification Round

[sweetandcool]

Official Vote Count 4.2

FlaviusAetius (4) damo666, Chaqa, KingofthePirates, Hamilton Brian
damo666 (2) Kakarroto, Yoyoyozo
Hamilton Brian (1) FlaviusAetius

30 minutes left of phase.

Flavius is set to die.

[Kakarroto]

Official Vote Count 4.2

FlaviusAetius (4) damo666, Chaqa, KingofthePirates, Hamilton Brian
damo666 (2) Kakarroto, Yoyoyozo
Hamilton Brian (1) FlaviusAetius

30 minutes left of phase.

Flavius is set to die.

didn't flav change to damo, as far as I'm aware, one or two pages ago?

[Kakarroto]

##vote damo

I gotta go to orientation for school I'll be back in about 2 hours...give me a CHANCE to defend myself

this here?

[sweetandcool]

##vote damo

I gotta go to orientation for school I'll be back in about 2 hours...give me a CHANCE to defend myself

this here?

Thank you, my phone fooled me by not actually refreshing the bot.

[Hamilton Brian]

Good catch regarding Flav's vote.

I just want to clearly understand how you come to the conclusion that there's no Confident Champ. There's no data to support it one way or the other. Well, I mean the added vote but that could have been added two ways, one of which is Confident.

[sweetandcool]

Official Vote Count 4.2 Corrected Edition

FlaviusAetius (4) damo666, Chaqa, KingofthePirates, Hamilton Brian
damo666 (3) Kakarroto, Yoyoyozo, FlaviusAetius

15 minutes left of phase.

Flavius is set to die.

[Kakarroto]

well, I guess it doesn't matter, as I believe there's another boost on damo to vote out flav for sure. So at least two who are on flav wagon need to change to damo.

I am once again asking for your electoral support, and vote damo.

[Kakarroto]

Good catch regarding Flav's vote.

I just want to clearly understand how you come to the conclusion that there's no Confident Champ. There's no data to support it one way or the other. Well, I mean the added vote but that could have been added two ways, one of which is Confident.

trust me, bro

[FlaviusAetius]

SUP

[FlaviusAetius]

"flipping flav will give us info" What do you think flipping DAMO will do?

[FlaviusAetius]

I want to ask you what exactly you're thinking, but then again it's probably best to be vague about this.

I do however think that, outside of you, there hasn't been a great sharing of thoughts and conversation going on. Flav posts a lot, but without trying to be mean, have to say that (at least in my opinion) they are low effort posts. Damo has some good quality in his posts, and it feels like he's portraying his thoughts at least at times, but I wish he posted more.

Chaqa and kotp both are posting minimalistic. Probably because of their RL, but still it doesn't help the game. Imagine if we had voted them both out instead of bunny and haze, the game would be a lot more livier. And we didn't even get "good information" by voting those two out. I ask everyone to consider voting lurkers out beginning D1, where we not only have enough misvotes to do so, but could get lucky and vote a mafia by doing so, increasing our misvote pool.

Anyway, back to this game, yoyo doesn't post as much as I like, as our confirmed town PR. I want him to be more involved, more decisive, more driving. During the outage of the forum, I came to play a game of Civ 5 with him, after brain and I had a (short) Civ 6 game. During it yoyo had a disconnect in game, but not in discord, and I found out he uses his computer only for video games, so he plays mafia only on mobile. Which would explain why he's not posting as much, but still, I would love him to be more involved.

But yeah, the overall messaging is somewhat lacking.

Wow. Okay fair. I will say that you guys are already doing such a great job, there really isn’t much for me to add. I enjoy you and ham’s analysis when it’s hard to find the right, relevant information. So much to sort through, especially when a turn that’s based off of mechanics that require flips (like the dip flip N3) in order to resolve exactly what happened.

it sounds probably more harsh than I meant, it's just if there is so low reflecting done on my posts, I have a hard time filtering out the bad takes. It would grow easier for me, and I could get a feel of someone, like for example chaqa, who at this point could be even 3rd party for me, I just lack critical information.

And as I said, I'm not a leader, I work best as a support. And I don't say laying low as outed PR is necessarily bad, you got to this point probably also because mafia didn't perceive you as a big threat, so that is done well enough.

It's just I'm wrecking my head around and try to find out who the remaining partner is, and if I'm actually correct on damo or it's just that freak chance and damo is actually town.

I mean he didn't post today, but then again today is his monday night where he's off in the pub and stuff, and he isn't leading. He could still be most unlucky town.

I thought about it a bit and I think this whole partner business was SILLY to begin with. We find the partner AFTER we ofund the first scum member. Sure it was a decentISH idea to cut out some partner combos, cause some just didnt make ANY sense. BUt to guide the ENTIRE day with it was derailing IMO

[FlaviusAetius]

"flipping flav will give us info" What do you think flipping DAMO will do?

ALSO remember damo has done a ton of sus stuff I wont say he's my top scumread HES NOT, but you know what they where there's smoke there's FIRE

[Kakarroto]

Wow. Okay fair. I will say that you guys are already doing such a great job, there really isn’t much for me to add. I enjoy you and ham’s analysis when it’s hard to find the right, relevant information. So much to sort through, especially when a turn that’s based off of mechanics that require flips (like the dip flip N3) in order to resolve exactly what happened.

it sounds probably more harsh than I meant, it's just if there is so low reflecting done on my posts, I have a hard time filtering out the bad takes. It would grow easier for me, and I could get a feel of someone, like for example chaqa, who at this point could be even 3rd party for me, I just lack critical information.

And as I said, I'm not a leader, I work best as a support. And I don't say laying low as outed PR is necessarily bad, you got to this point probably also because mafia didn't perceive you as a big threat, so that is done well enough.

It's just I'm wrecking my head around and try to find out who the remaining partner is, and if I'm actually correct on damo or it's just that freak chance and damo is actually town.

I mean he didn't post today, but then again today is his monday night where he's off in the pub and stuff, and he isn't leading. He could still be most unlucky town.

I thought about it a bit and I think this whole partner business was SILLY to begin with. We find the partner AFTER we ofund the first scum member. Sure it was a decentISH idea to cut out some partner combos, cause some just didnt make ANY sense. BUt to guide the ENTIRE day with it was derailing IMO

fair point. Though you could've told us earlier, and we could've focussed on other things. Still, at least we got some combos we can strike out.

[Yoyoyozo]

"flipping flav will give us info" What do you think flipping DAMO will do?

Okay I’m back until EOD. It pains me to say this, but it looks like town might be in a lose-lose situation and we’re all misreading what’s actually happnening. I’ll go into triage mode at 5 minutes until and vote Flav if I have to to prevent the possibility of a tied vote, but I don’t like where this is headed.

[Chaqa]

##Vote damo

I’m not certain about this but im willing to make a call here I guess

[Kakarroto]

"flipping flav will give us info" What do you think flipping DAMO will do?

Okay I’m back until EOD. It pains me to say this, but it looks like town might be in a lose-lose situation and we’re all misreading what’s actually happnening. I’ll go into triage mode at 5 minutes until and vote Flav if I have to to prevent the possibility of a tied vote, but I don’t like where this is headed.

yeah, as much as I think we vote the wrong one of the two, it would be even worse for town to not have any flip information. At least people can't hide behind a flav shade anymore. And if I'm wrong, I'll be gladly wrong here.

[FlaviusAetius]

it sounds probably more harsh than I meant, it's just if there is so low reflecting done on my posts, I have a hard time filtering out the bad takes. It would grow easier for me, and I could get a feel of someone, like for example chaqa, who at this point could be even 3rd party for me, I just lack critical information.

And as I said, I'm not a leader, I work best as a support. And I don't say laying low as outed PR is necessarily bad, you got to this point probably also because mafia didn't perceive you as a big threat, so that is done well enough.

It's just I'm wrecking my head around and try to find out who the remaining partner is, and if I'm actually correct on damo or it's just that freak chance and damo is actually town.

I mean he didn't post today, but then again today is his monday night where he's off in the pub and stuff, and he isn't leading. He could still be most unlucky town.

I thought about it a bit and I think this whole partner business was SILLY to begin with. We find the partner AFTER we ofund the first scum member. Sure it was a decentISH idea to cut out some partner combos, cause some just didnt make ANY sense. BUt to guide the ENTIRE day with it was derailing IMO

fair point. Though you could've told us earlier, and we could've focussed on other things. Still, at least we got some combos we can strike out.

You true I should have said it earlier it was hard for me to even really understand the conversation NGL :\ or respond to it in any MEANINGFUL way

[Kakarroto]

I thought about it a bit and I think this whole partner business was SILLY to begin with. We find the partner AFTER we ofund the first scum member. Sure it was a decentISH idea to cut out some partner combos, cause some just didnt make ANY sense. BUt to guide the ENTIRE day with it was derailing IMO

fair point. Though you could've told us earlier, and we could've focussed on other things. Still, at least we got some combos we can strike out.

You true I should have said it earlier it was hard for me to even really understand the conversation NGL :\ or respond to it in any MEANINGFUL way

next time I'll try to explain myself better in german

[FlaviusAetius]

##Vote damo

I’m not certain about this but im willing to make a call here I guess

I mean the way I see it is if Im town, Kak is town, and Yoyo is town
Damo was visited so he isnt Champion, ASSUMING Kak or me are also not Champion,

THAT MEANS
2/3 shot, so if you are ALSO not town then damo is a nobrainer mafia

[Kakarroto]

@Brian it looks damo is ahead by one now but it could just be tied in actuallity.

Are you considering changing or are you sold on voting Flav?