MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Donny Dude]

Now Bunny actually seems pissed off by bb, not sure how that work ai wise.

[rdrivera2005]

Well, missed EOD. I thought it was later.

I kind of understand why I was a wagon and also why lfischl was a wagon. Don't get why he didn't claim his role. We now know for sure Alien lover is out of play. Not much.

Was that Bunny claim real?

I need to read EOD but probably not tonight.

See you.

Why do you think you were a wagon?

Because I made very little effort D1 and some of the effort I tried was useless (the Macca thing).

I confess that the feeling I will be NKed early again after this discard claim thing is also making me avoid dispending too much energy on D1.

[rdrivera2005]

Now Bunny actually seems pissed off by bb, not sure how that work ai wise.

I think Bunny is clearly town and is pissed because he was a wagon and made an unnecessary claim because people want to build wagons on active players. But I still didn't read EOD, so it's just based on his last messages.

[Donny Dude]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

[damo666]

Why did he/she/it not claim?

[Donny Dude]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Now macca vecna and rdr were absent for the eod. Bozo less so but brain was around for eod.
Brain, why did you not move your vote from Bunny when it was clear he was not a viable wagon?
You stated earlier tonight at the excitement of there being a tie so you were around.

[Donny Dude]

im not even responsible for what happened. that was a crappy day where nothing went right I was excited at it being a tie actually

Yes, but your inaction is noted.
Brain should know ties are no good for town so why does he state excitement at a tie?
I cannot figure out why town brain would want that at all and leave us with less information.

[Donny Dude]

celaph was a completely random cw. how do you ppl play like this and claim to be using logic

Brain, did you townread celaph during d1?
Do you townread him now?

[rdrivera2005]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Have you considered that all these players, except Brain, weren't active in the thread in the last hours before EOD? You can see this on the bot....

[Donny Dude]

And I wasn't wanting to come across as an asshole there; I just didn't understand the statement completely the way it's written.

Yeah. Phone typing. Can we learn anything?

I think often we can. There was a big learning from my jump off ghug to brainbomb last game, but that was so overt. I am not seeing anything jump out in me that way so far. I wish I could find an immediate "gotcha" but I'm not right now. The bot being off doesn't help.

Hb, it is off by one vote unless there is something else.

[Donny Dude]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Have you considered that all these players, except Brain, weren't active in the thread in the last hours before EOD? You can see this on the bot....

Yes, I do see that.

[rdrivera2005]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Now macca vecna and rdr were absent for the eod. Bozo less so but brain was around for eod.
Brain, why did you not move your vote from Bunny when it was clear he was not a viable wagon?
You stated earlier tonight at the excitement of there being a tie so you were around.

And now my last message seems stupid. Sorry Donny.

[Donny Dude]

Yeah. Phone typing. Can we learn anything?

I think often we can. There was a big learning from my jump off ghug to brainbomb last game, but that was so overt. I am not seeing anything jump out in me that way so far. I wish I could find an immediate "gotcha" but I'm not right now. The bot being off doesn't help.

Hb, it is off by one vote unless there is something else.

To add something like last game is rare I think . I don't think it will be obvious as that. Do you have any conclusions?

[Hamilton Brian]

If it's not one of the ones I said earlier (cop, conspiracy theorist, jailor, mason, vigilante, clairvoyant), I'm keeping my vote on you.

This is gross

Agreed.

Why do things continually go over my head? What am I missing here? You're claiming you've got a good PR. Bona has a list that they think is "good" and they'll keep their vote on you if you don't have one of those roles. You say it's gross. Bob agrees.

Alright, what am I missing? Is this Bona trying to out you? Is this scum!Bona?

[Bonatogether]

This is gross

Agreed.

Why do things continually go over my head? What am I missing here? You're claiming you've got a good PR. Bona has a list that they think is "good" and they'll keep their vote on you if you don't have one of those roles. You say it's gross. Bob agrees.

Alright, what am I missing? Is this Bona trying to out you? Is this scum!Bona?

It was probably a stupid thing to say, but "I'm a strong pr" is an easy (if incredibly bold) thing for scum to say, since it basically buys them a day.

[Hamilton Brian]

Because I made very little effort D1 and some of the effort I tried was useless (the Macca thing).

I confess that the feeling I will be NKed early again after this discard claim thing is also making me avoid dispending too much energy on D1.

Meh. I see that as you. If I've got a meta about anyone in this game, you're pretty low at the start. I didn't see this game as atypical.

I have to go back and check out the Macca thing.

[Hamilton Brian]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Ah, man! No kidding. With those two wagons hovering around 8... Especially when there was the chance of a tie, that's not a good look. I wished I'd seen it first, not that I'd necessarily know what to do with it.

[BobMcBob]

From nanook to Joel Osteen in less than a day. I've sure expanded my reach fast!

I'm glad that brain bomb is putting his reputation on the line for not one or two but four players. Presumably he would volunteer to die ahead of any of them should the need arise as it almost certainly will? No reproach from me at all, I respect anyone who's willing to put the rest of their body where their mouth is

nope, no sense in dying for vecna or bona. but RHK dying is not gonna happen on my watch

is there a particular reason you're so certain RHK is town? I apologise if you answer this question later, but RHK hasn't seemed remotely obvtown for me and at best would be townlean.

[BobMcBob]

Over on page 70-71, the entire discussion just rubbed me the wrong way. It was confusing and unproductive and I didn't like it, and not for any particular person I don't think. Although maybe it was jasnah being confusing and stubborn and everybody engaging with it in an equally confusing way.

[Donny Dude]

Over on page 70-71, the entire discussion just rubbed me the wrong way. It was confusing and unproductive and I didn't like it, and not for any particular person I don't think. Although maybe it was jasnah being confusing and stubborn and everybody engaging with it in an equally confusing way.

What is your read on Jasnah Bob?