M1010 Mini-Mafia

[brainbomb]

Bozo do you agree with any of my scumreads

[bozotheclown]

Who were you considering besides BunnyGo?

Primarily Brainbomb as I recall.

What changed in the 4 minutes since you had ranked BunnyGo ahead of brainbomb in your lynch order?

[bozotheclown]

Bozo do you agree with any of my scumreads

worcej is definitely in my top three. xorxes is probably now in my top 5.

[Jamiet99uk]

I never said you caused a tie by unvoting.

Yes you did, just now, look:

When Jamie unvoted 7 minutes before EOD, the vote was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 3, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, Foxcastle 1, so only SK24, who did not appear to be online, was on what I would call a side wagon. Who do you suspect for staying on a side wagon?

It was only 3-3 after I put my vote on BunnyGo, not when I unvoted.

OK, thanks, that should have said after you voted for BunnyGo.

Yes. When we remembered it just now in our discussion, you and I both made a slight mistake regarding the timing, but it's not super important.

I absolutely acknowledge and am not attempting to shy away from the fact that by moving my vote (with a three-minute "unvote" in the process as I stepped back to rethink, as I explained) I both briefly caused a tie, and, also, made BunnyGo a slightly more viable wagon.

At the time, I was absolutely comfortable with that because I thought there was a good chance BunnyGo was scum. I was wrong, but I'm not going to hide from that.

[brainbomb]

Bozo do you agree with any of my scumreads

worcej is definitely in my top three. xorxes is probably now in my top 5.

you tr emc

[Jamiet99uk]

Who were you considering besides BunnyGo?

Primarily Brainbomb as I recall.

What changed in the 4 minutes since you had ranked BunnyGo ahead of brainbomb in your lynch order?

Brainbomb had hardclaimed Vengeful Townie.

[xorxes]

Wait a minute, that's incorrect.

Bozo, you are remembering it wrong, and so am I, apparently. I had to double-check the bot.

It was not my *unvote* that caused a tie. It was my vote for BunnyGo that very briefly tied it.

Strange how I remembered it the other way round, just as you did. Huh.

I never said you caused a tie by unvoting.

You did indirectly. You said:

When Jamie unvoted 7 minutes before EOD, the vote was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 3, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, Foxcastle 1, so only SK24, who did not appear to be online, was on what I would call a side wagon. Who do you suspect for staying on a side wagon?

but it was BunnyGo 2

[Jamiet99uk]

Do keep up, Xorxes.

[bozotheclown]

Primarily Brainbomb as I recall.

What changed in the 4 minutes since you had ranked BunnyGo ahead of brainbomb in your lynch order?

Brainbomb had hardclaimed Vengeful Townie.

OK, thanks.

[xorxes]

Do keep up, Xorxes.

[bozotheclown]

Wait a minute, that's incorrect.

Bozo, you are remembering it wrong, and so am I, apparently. I had to double-check the bot.

It was not my *unvote* that caused a tie. It was my vote for BunnyGo that very briefly tied it.

Strange how I remembered it the other way round, just as you did. Huh.

I never said you caused a tie by unvoting.

You did indirectly. You said:

When Jamie unvoted 7 minutes before EOD, the vote was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 3, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, Foxcastle 1, so only SK24, who did not appear to be online, was on what I would call a side wagon. Who do you suspect for staying on a side wagon?

but it was BunnyGo 2

Yes, Jamie voted for BunnyGo at 7 minutes, he had unvoted at 10 minutes.

So, do you think that damo, emc, and brainbomb were on side wagons after Jamie tied the vote?

[xorxes]

@bozo, this case you're now mounting against Jamie is something that rivera had already come up with, as soon as N1 I think. Were you aware of that?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE DAMO

Why did you vote for damo?

[Jamiet99uk]

What changed in the 4 minutes since you had ranked BunnyGo ahead of brainbomb in your lynch order?

Brainbomb had hardclaimed Vengeful Townie.

OK, thanks.

No problem.

Brain's hardclaim came seconds after I had "unvoted", but he had very strongly hinted at it a minute or two before (even though in his hinting, he also gave the impression he didn't fully understand the Vengeful Townie rules, as I noted at the time).

As I recall, quite honestly, in that three minute pause while I was "unvoted", my main consideration was whether I thought Brainbomb was (a) sincerely claiming Vengeful, or (b) scum fakeclaiming for some reason, or (c) town fakeclaiming. I came to the conclusion, for that specific moment in time, that I couldn't be sure and therefore voting Bunny, who had been my preference right before Brainbomb's fakeclaim, was still where my vote was going to go.

[xorxes]

So, do you think that damo, emc, and brainbomb were on side wagons after Jamie tied the vote?

Yes, do you disagree?

[bozotheclown]

@bozo, this case you're now mounting against Jamie is something that rivera had already come up with, as soon as N1 I think. Were you aware of that?

Yes, and Jamie's D1 EOD is the reason I had him as my third highest scum read N1.

[bozotheclown]

So, do you think that damo, emc, and brainbomb were on side wagons after Jamie tied the vote?

Yes, do you disagree?

I am not sure I would call a 2 vote wagon a side wagon when the top wagons only had 3 votes.

[xorxes]

brainbomb was shitposting at EOD1, not very interested in who got lynched.

emc was doing his usual detached commentary, I'd say NAI.

damo was distracted fighting with bo_sox (while still townreading him at the time). I thought bo_sox was being scummy in that discussion, which was then continued during the night. When damo ended it saying he would vote for bo_sox the next day, it crossed my mind that it could be staged and damo would be bussing bo. Obviously we now know that was not the case.

[bozotheclown]

I think Bo is the most interesting BunnyGo target. It adds information about whether D1 was TvT or TvS and it helps shed additional light on two other players, me and SarahK. I'm not sure anyone else's flip provides that much useful intel, and I think that would be a good option weighed against the likelihood of aiming for scum and hitting town.

It also sheds quite a lot of info on me, Jamie, rivera and bozo.

Why did you endorse Foxcastle's call for BunnyGo to shoot bo_sox instead of advocating for BunnyGo to withhold his shot?

[xorxes]

So, do you think that damo, emc, and brainbomb were on side wagons after Jamie tied the vote?

Yes, do you disagree?

I am not sure I would call a 2 vote wagon a side wagon when the top wagons only had 3 votes.

Well, there wasn't a lot of trying to get others to join, so they had very little chance of becoming the lead wagon. Basically they were not interested in deciding between Bunny and bo_sox.