MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[FlaviusAetius]

I don't see how you can predict my role and gender, with so little information. Can I learn what your reads are dependant on?

Role is easy: they didn’t mod kill you, despite running out of subs.

Likewise, removing a female from the game would be unfair to Jack. So odds are good you’re either a scum or female or both.

Dont game the system ol' bunny(I know your dead but still) we yavu's role slot is scummable enough, also we should ban modkilling ngl

[FlaviusAetius]

I think the plausible lynches will be a lot clearer after the night results.

I won't be voting ND.

Why will they be more clearer? Makes no sense??

[BionicMole]

Cmdr, Purple, Bionic, three good choices.

It could be that the scum teams aren't that experienced on this site. And, as a result, are not following the usual NK meta patterns.

OR

It could be people like Tom, Vecna, Darg, Xorxes, etc are the scum teams. If that is the case well GG.

I have to ask why I keep making your list?

[ND]

Your play yesterday at EOD was scummy Bionic, that's way.

And, yeah @Flav maybe for Yav/Bo/Vapor idk Yav is looking ok imo.

[ND]

I'm like Santa I got to make my list and check it twice and guess what Bionic you have been naughty this year.

[Tom Bombadil]

He’s got this thing about him this game where he comes across as “too cool”. Like voting for people and giving no explanation. Or coming in and saying how the long phase is going to krill the game. He’s playing like one of the good players who thinks they are better than everyone. That’s not normal for him, and he isn’t good enough to do that. He’s being unnatural

Why did you give this random read on damo that literally no one asked for. And now he shows up as dead, you realize how suspicious that is? Its absoulutely ridiculous and frankly, you havent done anything in my mind to get out of that scum category, you and bosox(now yavu) in my view are connected, it seems there's more traction for the bosox(now yavu) wagon though, ##vote yavu if he pops up as scum, you are following.

Bunny asked literally the post right before about my damo read, so I’m not sure why you say nobody asked for it.

[Tom Bombadil]

I think the plausible lynches will be a lot clearer after the night results.

I won't be voting ND.

Why will they be more clearer? Makes no sense??

I don’t know what you are asking a dead person a question - but scum could have viewed this message as a cop crumb

[BionicMole]

Your play yesterday at EOD was scummy Bionic, that's way.

And, yeah @Flav maybe for Yav/Bo/Vapor idk Yav is looking ok imo.

Scummy how? Because I didn't jump off Chaqa and onto that bogus Frost wagon?
Flipping Chaqa would have provided more insight than Frost did, even if they flipped the exact same thing.

[Tom Bombadil]

Was anyone roleblocked?

[xorxes]

*To keep things on the up and up, that exchange was with me and not Demon*

Ah, right. Why didn't you pursue this at the time?

I just went back and checked to make sure my memory was correct, my questioning post happened with 3 minutes left in D2 phase and got lost in the shuffle of the EOD reveal. So here we are back on it at dawn the next day...

And what happened during the 48hrs long night? Are you saying you had other things to do during the night that prevented you from scumhunting?

[ND]

eh, you did something that caught my eye.

[xorxes]

I think the plausible lynches will be a lot clearer after the night results.

I won't be voting ND.

Why will they be more clearer? Makes no sense??

I don’t know what you are asking a dead person a question - but scum could have viewed this message as a cop crumb

Possible. I thought it might have been Jack because damo was so obsessed with sex, but that works too.

[BionicMole]

Ah, right. Why didn't you pursue this at the time?

I just went back and checked to make sure my memory was correct, my questioning post happened with 3 minutes left in D2 phase and got lost in the shuffle of the EOD reveal. So here we are back on it at dawn the next day...

And what happened during the 48hrs long night? Are you saying you had other things to do during the night that prevented you from scumhunting?

I'm saying it got lost in the EOD shuffle and brought back up now.

[CmdrLikely]

Ohh ok. I understand the confusion now, Bionicmole. I was talking about Frostwind trying too hard to be town. Then you said, "why do you have to try so hard to be town?" I thought we were both talking about Frostwind, but I see you were talking about me. Here's the relevant quote:

...
This is in the middle of ND + Chaqa discussions. Like, why is he trying so hard with the "I'm so town, I'm not even useful" narrative? Because it worked yesterday that's why.

why do you have to "try" to be town? very suspect

Sorry, is that mean you agree with me? Because I agree with you. Frostwind is suspicious because he is trying to hard to be town.

[BionicMole]

I mean "the wagon on Frostwind" is fine.

Please, explain in your own words, why it is fine.

Why "in my own words"? The reason is because I agree with what has already been said. I can comply but you won't hear anything new. Also, I'm at risk of making myself look scummy because flav was jumping down my throat yesterday when I was trying my best to be town, so I'm learning from that.

Here's my best shot: Frostwind contradicts details about his own backstory. It's a classic sign of lying to add more details than what is necessary to motivate a [fake] narrative. He tries the self lynch day 1. People start suspecting him, but he gets off. Day 2, he says something like:

Agree with most of the analysis. Bob, as far as I saw, didn't have many people defending him near the end of the day, probably meaning his teammates were AWOL. I'm also interested in people like ItsHosuke, who've been posting without much substance. I understand I might be guilty of similar incidences, and I apologize: as a newbie and just another random townie, this game takes some getting used to.

To be fair, being an ordinary town member makes it less of a sacrifice to have me lynched, and since this is a great start for town, I doubt I'll be missed much. So if that's what you guys want, you guys can have it.

This is in the middle of ND + Chaqa discussions. Like, why is he trying so hard with the "I'm so town, I'm not even useful" narrative? Because it worked yesterday that's why.

The bold underlined lines. Why do you have to TRY to be town? Is this more muddying of the water?

[BionicMole]

eh, you did something that caught my eye.

Oh yea? Seems like a legit case.

[CmdrLikely]

You know what,

adios

##VOTE PURPLE

Lol are you sure?

Hey if you think I'm not scum then why not try to actually defend me?

Sure good point. Onus is on ND to defend his claim and get the wagon rolling. But also Purple your vote is on ND? That's also a bad choice. I have a solution for both of you. Change your votes to something that makes sense. These are bad choices because ND is the best we got to a town clear. Someone would have CC'd by now, right?

P.S. I was laughing at ND because he just gave an excellent speech about conviction and then sort of stumbled onto voting for purple after humming and hawing over it out loud.

[CmdrLikely]

Please, explain in your own words, why it is fine.

Why "in my own words"? The reason is because I agree with what has already been said. I can comply but you won't hear anything new. Also, I'm at risk of making myself look scummy because flav was jumping down my throat yesterday when I was trying my best to be town, so I'm learning from that.

Here's my best shot: Frostwind contradicts details about his own backstory. It's a classic sign of lying to add more details than what is necessary to motivate a [fake] narrative. He tries the self lynch day 1. People start suspecting him, but he gets off. Day 2, he says something like:

Agree with most of the analysis. Bob, as far as I saw, didn't have many people defending him near the end of the day, probably meaning his teammates were AWOL. I'm also interested in people like ItsHosuke, who've been posting without much substance. I understand I might be guilty of similar incidences, and I apologize: as a newbie and just another random townie, this game takes some getting used to.

To be fair, being an ordinary town member makes it less of a sacrifice to have me lynched, and since this is a great start for town, I doubt I'll be missed much. So if that's what you guys want, you guys can have it.

This is in the middle of ND + Chaqa discussions. Like, why is he trying so hard with the "I'm so town, I'm not even useful" narrative? Because it worked yesterday that's why.

The bold underlined lines. Why do you have to TRY to be town? Is this more muddying of the water?

Fair question, I suppose, but I feel we are getting a little pedantic. Let me rephrase it. "I was trying my best to be a good town". Everyone should be trying their best. In this game, things aren't black and white.

[CmdrLikely]

##VOTE FlaviusAetius

I vote flavius because he's targeting yav and he and I were butting heads on the dumbest thing earlier. I think these targets more likely match the pattern of scum trying to get an easy lynch or pray on the weak, as opposed to following up on strong scumleans.

[purplecow]

Fine I'll change my vote.
##Vote bozo
Though I'm not too sure about it.