M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

[Squigs44]

Sorry bud, I was looking forward to playing with you, but signaling to the mafia you're willing to be tadpoled means we got to kill you now.

##Vote sweetandcool

So you think they're town but want to vote them before they are converted?

Squigs! By the light of Selûne, I can hardly believe my eyes. It's been far too long, old friend. Your words today remind me why your counsel has always been so valued. Your wisdom is a beacon for us all.

Didn't you pocket me last time we played too? I'll have to go check your alignment there

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I get an off feeling from Flavius
Like he’s trying to fit in

Idk where this 100% accurate read comes from but the great dandd gods have blessed me with this

Dip is towny, all jokes aside
(Flavius being sus was not a joke)

[Foxcastle]

NOOOO! This is a great idea I want to know where he would put me xD Also why not its flavorful and gets him talking he said he doesnt even talk usually in these games so I support, plus would be interesting to see where he puts people >.> A public allignment of his opinions on literally everyone almost 24/7 sounds GREAT to me

This is a terrible idea that too easily looks like scumhunting when it's just garbage.

Now, if you want a true method, I will send you a copy of my patent-pending spreadsheet.

It's not intended to be strategic or highly efficient. It's thematic.

Okay, so you admit that it's not actually intended to be useful. I hate to break it to you, but no one wins on thematics...

[BunnyGo]

Apologies for my brief absence, friends. I was waylaid by a particularly loquacious NPC who shared some fascinating tales. On a brighter note, my sidequest was a resounding success. However, it seems my path is not yet clear; I have two more sidequests to attend to before I can rejoin you all. I appreciate your patience and look forward to our continued endeavors."

[BunnyGo]

So you think they're town but want to vote them before they are converted?

Squigs! By the light of Selûne, I can hardly believe my eyes. It's been far too long, old friend. Your words today remind me why your counsel has always been so valued. Your wisdom is a beacon for us all.

Didn't you pocket me last time we played too? I'll have to go check your alignment there

Squigs, I assure you, my fondness for old friends comes from my heart, not my head-tentacles. But if it makes you feel better, I promise not to ask for any brains at our next meeting!

[Kakarroto]

@kak I still don't have an answer

Have you used a D1 no kill list before?

oh, I thought you were others asking with the phrasing, so I wanted to let them answer.

If you ask me directly, I have a few times put out thoughts of people putting into 'buckets', like 'would vote for', 'could vote for' and 'not vote for', I think two or three games before this I did it too? Like I'm usually very soft D1 on new players, have some players who I would give a slight pass (either because I think they could be valuable, would give more information later as either town or mafia, or would make the game more enjoyable), and am more inclined to try remove player that might not be too active without giving a benefit in the later game.

For example, I picked myself since I don't want to vote for myself here (I mean ok, that much should be logical). Sweet has been taken out every time as mafia on D1 and he has never experienced the game from this side further, so this is just a given for me at this point to strongly disregard voting for sweet on d1; especially since he just had a great performance as town last game, I don't want him to be gone early (and if he is mafia, he might just give out accidentally another of his teammates, but pssst).

We have quite a lot PR's this game, and worcej has been easily claimed under pressure before, so I want to mitigate that risk. Plus, his mafia tell is being great at hitting PR's, so we might be able to clear him soon. Col7by is a new player and thus should be encouraged to play, and come back by having a bit of a game. Bona is a personal choice, since he can be a great asset, but is often a target of mafia trying to missvote him. Plus, when he is mafia, it should be pretty visible at day 3 or 4, normally, if you know where to look at. Also, he usually reads me correctly, so I have no fear this game that town-bona would vote me out

As for ghug, I think he is a great asset for town too. He has also one or two signs that might surface when he is mafia, and I think I know him at this point that I should not be fooled by him. Of course, I could be wrong there and he can be able to pull wool over my face, but I also enjoy playing with him and want to see more from him.

And for everyone, please don't take it personally if you aren't on the list, I enjoy playing with everyone, or most everyone (I think there exist people where I genuinely wish to not play with them, but I think I haven't met any in the time I played, as far as I remember), like jamie, demon, foods, bunny, will, chaqa, to name only a few, but I think, that currently I would trust myself the most to get a read of ghug out of all, well bona maybe more, but he is already on my list.

I hope that makes it more clear for you, Squigs?

[Foxcastle]

Apologies for my brief absence, friends. I was waylaid by a particularly loquacious NPC who shared some fascinating tales. On a brighter note, my sidequest was a resounding success. However, it seems my path is not yet clear; I have two more sidequests to attend to before I can rejoin you all. I appreciate your patience and look forward to our continued endeavors."

Why the stray quotation mark?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I get an off feeling from Flavius
Like he’s trying to fit in

Idk where this 100% accurate read comes from but the great dandd gods have blessed me with this

Dip is towny, all jokes aside
(Flavius being sus was not a joke)

Gasp!
Will used the s-word! Will is an Among Us player!
##VOTE JUSTAGUYNAMEDWILL

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Hey Kak I have overtaken you in posts

[Kakarroto]

the point is, to get voting information from everyone, how they react, save that information, then use that information, where every town should know nothing and only play on gut, or guesses, on a later date. Like 'oh, now whe know X flipped mafia, on day one it looks like Y and Z tried to rescue X and voted C instead. Lets have a deeper look into them'. And there are lots of more things to gain of, later, with reactions and stuff that happened in the prior days.

Voting no-kill is like not providing information from yourself, making yourself kind a blank slot, which is what a mafia member would like to do, at least some. The more information about you is publicly known, your behaviour and voting and reason etc., the better other players can read you. Town want to find other town, as much as they want to find mafia.

As town, it is quite a good idea to project information from you, so your team members can read you. Mafia knows already you are not on their team, though they want to know who the PR's are. THAT information should be hidden as town, yes, but also, it's probably a good idea to send information out about your thoughts, reasoning and logic.

while I do understand this, I'm also doing no kill as a general safety vote, in case I forget or something comes up that prevents me from voting down the line. I'll still be trying to keep up and updating voting as I do. the instant snap back against no-vote is, to me at least, very interesting though (granted I'm still partially looking at this game through an among us lens, where skip is, of course, a very valid option).

if that is your concern, as far as I understood, voting "no-kill" in this game does NOT prevent you from being modkilled. The phrasing is:

You must vote at some point during the day for a LIVING player, you may end a day unvoted as long as you voted for a LIVING player at some point, you may vote no kill provided you voted for a LIVING player at some point. You may self vote, this will count as voting a player.

please check page 1 or the GM for this.

[Kakarroto]

How many mafia are there again?

Can we not 'town slip' bait when the set up is clearly posted

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the number of mafia doesn't appear to be.

I've looked back in the sign up thread, it appears there are 5 mafia, with 3 who have special roles (which means 2 are goons)

[FlaviusAetius]

I think you mean: Feels like a Dip thing to say. Nobody here can distinguish between my townplay and my scumplay (except will), because nobody (except will) has seen my townplay! (other than M85 in which I made 12 posts total).

BRUH, I get not talking in the beginning, but 12 posts total!?! If you arent talking for THAT long then you are mafia by default in my mind, as good as a mafia basically because you arent even TRYING to help the town solve the game

To be fair, his first game, where he was Town, the game ended early.

Of course, that specific game where he only posted 12 times, he was dead weight. But if he rolled Town this game, I would expect him to contribute more.

Oh ok, but my point still stands, I will TARGET anyone who doesnt talk for a prolonged period of time, I understand reasons to do this in the beginning, but it should change...

[ghug]

How many mafia are there again?

Can we not 'town slip' bait when the set up is clearly posted

Who even read this setup? Way too many PR possibilities to keep track of.

I had to but I don't remember any of it.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I get an off feeling from Flavius
Like he’s trying to fit in

Idk where this 100% accurate read comes from but the great dandd gods have blessed me with this

Dip is towny, all jokes aside
(Flavius being sus was not a joke)

Gasp!
Will used the s-word! Will is an Among Us player!
##VOTE JUSTAGUYNAMEDWILL

Its ok I am a proud Gen Zer

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I get an off feeling from Flavius
Like he’s trying to fit in

Idk where this 100% accurate read comes from but the great dandd gods have blessed me with this

Dip is towny, all jokes aside
(Flavius being sus was not a joke)

Gasp!
Will used the s-word! Will is an Among Us player!
##VOTE JUSTAGUYNAMEDWILL

Its ok I am a proud Gen Zer

That's fine but playing an inferior game is not!
##END

[Kakarroto]

##vote no kill
In such a massive game, I don't see the point in not skipping when there is not enough info. unless there is a major scum slip, or some other great realization, this is my vote for the day.

I agree with the logic that killing someone always provides information, I dont like this stance you are taking so early on. Sure I see a SCENARIO where MAYBE we dont kill someone. But to stake out that posisiton so early is just silliness

Under what circumstances would we not kill someone?

I guess at EoD we come down to two wagons, both claim different PR's, and the third we try to consolidate on claims another PR? At that point, there might be some sentiment where people flock to a no-kill?

[Foxcastle]

Gasp!
Will used the s-word! Will is an Among Us player!
##VOTE JUSTAGUYNAMEDWILL

Its ok I am a proud Gen Zer

That's fine but playing an inferior game is not!
##END

What even is this?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Gasp!
Will used the s-word! Will is an Among Us player!
##VOTE JUSTAGUYNAMEDWILL

Its ok I am a proud Gen Zer

That's fine but playing an inferior game is not!
##END

I play all the social deduction games

Remember when Bunny scumread me for playing a bunch of lying games and then vigged me and turned out to be right

[ghug]

Hard to tell sometimes...

##VOTE FOXYGEN
##END

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Can we not 'town slip' bait when the set up is clearly posted

Who even read this setup? Way too many PR possibilities to keep track of.

I had to but I don't remember any of it.

Here's how it works: During the night, players are vigilantes, trackers, watchers, janitors, cops, doctors, and may or may not talk to dead people. During the day, players are vigilantes, trackers, watchers, janitors, cops, doctors, and may or may not revive dead people.