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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#21 Post by Ernst_Brenner » Tue Apr 08, 2025 9:36 am

Game started at https://lichess.org/Zx7dULwCJ86b
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#22 Post by Hominidae » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:02 am

miminena, my username (that I just made) is yvwb.

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#23 Post by miminena » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:07 am

Hominidae wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:02 am
miminena, my username (that I just made) is yvwb.
sent!
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#24 Post by miminena » Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:22 am

Links to games:
Match 1: https://lichess.org/Zx7dULwC
Match 2: https://lichess.org/AM1qiH5c
Match 3: https://lichess.org/9YgP0qLz and https://lichess.org/kaSUOzes
Match 4: https://lichess.org/NpqrtKRR
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#25 Post by Indiaball » Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:25 pm

miminena wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:06 am
ftr i'm filling in for Awhailnah since they didn't confirm
Sorry, I couldn't see it. I want to take back my spot.

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#26 Post by miminena » Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:26 pm

Indiaball wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:25 pm
miminena wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:06 am
ftr i'm filling in for Awhailnah since they didn't confirm
Sorry, I couldn't see it. I want to take back my spot.
This should be fine

Hominidae, is it fine for us to cancel our current match and have Awhailnah take their spot back?
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#27 Post by gimix » Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:49 pm

Since it's a round robin we can arrange for 9 players instead of 8

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#28 Post by miminena » Tue Apr 08, 2025 5:26 pm

gimix wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 2:49 pm
Since it's a round robin we can arrange for 9 players instead of 8
i mean i'm playing with the intent of filling in; if it's not too inconvenient for hominidae i think it would be best to just change the player in the bracket since i don't really care if i play or not and awhailnah specifically signed up to play
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#29 Post by French_boi » Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:47 am

If it's not too late, I'd also be willing to jump in and give the extra player an opponent.

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#30 Post by Indiaball » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:18 am

French_boi wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:47 am
If it's not too late, I'd also be willing to jump in and give the extra player an opponent.
I would like to play you as to not cause any more delays.

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#31 Post by miminena » Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:24 am

French_boi wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 2:47 am
If it's not too late, I'd also be willing to jump in and give the extra player an opponent.
Go ahead! Just put your lichess username in the thread and start the match whenever both of you are ready
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#32 Post by French_boi » Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:16 pm

My Lichess username is French_boi, same as here. Send me a challenge, I'm ready to go!

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#33 Post by Indiaball » Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:25 pm

French_boi wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:16 pm
My Lichess username is French_boi, same as here. Send me a challenge, I'm ready to go!
Just did.

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#34 Post by French_boi » Wed Apr 09, 2025 12:26 pm

Game link: https://lichess.org/7vkdLIgX

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#35 Post by gimix » Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:38 pm

So now it's a 10 player tournament?

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#36 Post by damo666 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:38 am

gimix wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 3:38 pm
So now it's a 10 player tournament?
Seems so. Let's cap it there.

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#37 Post by gimix » Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:50 am

Can someone explain me what happened to one of my games vs DougJoe?
I was exploring the Lichess site and found the "Analysis Board" feature. I copied the moves of one game and started experimenting with the feature, and suddenly that game ended because of "Cheat Detected". What???

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#38 Post by Ernst_Brenner » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:38 am

I don't know if this happened, but you can turn on computer evaluation in the analysis board with a toggle on the top right. It's to the left of a line that says: "SF 16 . 7 MB NNUE in local browser" Mousing over the switch says "Toggle local evaluation".

I would guess they might count that as cheating, although I think they could make the mouseover clearer, maybe call it 'local computer evaluation' or something.
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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#39 Post by gimix » Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:52 am

Yes, I believe that's what happened, although I'm not sure whether the position under analysis was the current one in the actual game (I would say I hadn't inserted all the moves, just a few).
I understand it can be considered a cheating attempt, and I'm feeling a bit stupid about that. But then it would be so easy to disable the feature or just issue a warning instead of allowing a stupid user to use the function and then say "you cheated".

It's a pity because we were in an interesting position, but ok.

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Re: webDiplomacy Chess Tournament!

#40 Post by DougJoe » Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:05 am

Ernst_Brenner wrote:
Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:38 am
I don't know if this happened, but you can turn on computer evaluation in the analysis board with a toggle on the top right. It's to the left of a line that says: "SF 16 . 7 MB NNUE in local browser" Mousing over the switch says "Toggle local evaluation".

I would guess they might count that as cheating, although I think they could make the mouseover clearer, maybe call it 'local computer evaluation' or something.
Yeah, if you copied the game over then turned the evaluation engine on the site would consider that a cheat attempt. Chess.com has similar rules, although I don't remember if they actively try to prevent it or not (by warning you or preventing the engine from being enabled in the same use case.)

I'm cool with starting over. The only question is: do we want to "replay" back to the same position or not?

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