Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy

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Re: Mafia 54 Sign-Ups. The Carrot Conspiracy

#21 Post by xorxes » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:22 am

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#22 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:30 am

Strong line up so far

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#23 Post by Temasek22 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:30 am
Strong line up so far
Watch the line up get multiple times weaker.

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#24 Post by Chaqa » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:13 pm

Always factor EMC and/or brainbomb getting modkilled into your math.

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#25 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:38 pm

I still think the Mafia team has too many advantages and town is too likely to stumble over itself, but I'm in.

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#26 Post by damo666 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:08 pm

In.

Thanks.

Carrots are not the only root vegetable...

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#27 Post by Chaqa » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:43 pm

@Neph - I think you need to give town a Tracker/Watcher or a Doctor to balance this out.

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#28 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:00 pm

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#29 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:26 pm

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#30 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:45 pm

So I'm currently creating a machine learning model that classifies players as mafia or town for a final project at university. Its showing some real promise, but is still in its early stages of development. It's currently performing at a 0.42 success rate in identifying mafia (a random number generator performs at around 0.25).
Would people want to play a game where I play solely using the bot? I would still post for the bot, but I would only use data from the bot when posting reads lists, voting, etc. I would post in the flavor of a bot at all times. I think it would be interesting to see, but it would also change how the game is played a little, so I can see some people not wanting it.

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#31 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:18 pm

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#32 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:19 pm

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#33 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:19 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:45 pm
So I'm currently creating a machine learning model that classifies players as mafia or town for a final project at university. Its showing some real promise, but is still in its early stages of development. It's currently performing at a 0.42 success rate in identifying mafia (a random number generator performs at around 0.25).
Would people want to play a game where I play solely using the bot? I would still post for the bot, but I would only use data from the bot when posting reads lists, voting, etc. I would post in the flavor of a bot at all times. I think it would be interesting to see, but it would also change how the game is played a little, so I can see some people not wanting it.
What if you roll scum?

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#34 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:42 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:19 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:45 pm
So I'm currently creating a machine learning model that classifies players as mafia or town for a final project at university. Its showing some real promise, but is still in its early stages of development. It's currently performing at a 0.42 success rate in identifying mafia (a random number generator performs at around 0.25).
Would people want to play a game where I play solely using the bot? I would still post for the bot, but I would only use data from the bot when posting reads lists, voting, etc. I would post in the flavor of a bot at all times. I think it would be interesting to see, but it would also change how the game is played a little, so I can see some people not wanting it.
What if you roll scum?
Just what I was going to ask.

Unless your bot can lie with around a 0.42 convincingness level, I don't see how this could work.

If you want to sit out, *run* your bot during the game, and then report to us how well it did (and in the God Thread during play, perhaps) then that might be very interesting.

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#35 Post by Nephthys » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:43 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:45 pm
So I'm currently creating a machine learning model that classifies players as mafia or town for a final project at university. Its showing some real promise, but is still in its early stages of development. It's currently performing at a 0.42 success rate in identifying mafia (a random number generator performs at around 0.25).
Would people want to play a game where I play solely using the bot? I would still post for the bot, but I would only use data from the bot when posting reads lists, voting, etc. I would post in the flavor of a bot at all times. I think it would be interesting to see, but it would also change how the game is played a little, so I can see some people not wanting it.
Even if you don't end up using it, could be fun to send results through to the god thread for interest.

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#36 Post by Nephthys » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:53 pm

I think I'd lean to a tracker over watcher/doc.

I somewhat underestimated the power I gave to the unknown mafia haha

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#37 Post by Squigs44 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:18 pm

If it rolled mafia it would lie about the numbers it spits out by skewing them to help hide teammates. Definitely suboptimal since you wouldn't be able to get a good read on the bot itself. God thread updates would work.

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#38 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:23 pm

Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:18 pm
If it rolled mafia it would lie about the numbers it spits out by skewing them to help hide teammates. Definitely suboptimal since you wouldn't be able to get a good read on the bot itself. God thread updates would work.
I'm super intrigued by the experiment, but I think you can either play (in which case, running the bot is a persona, and we should treat it as any other meta, and given how much people dislike spreadsheets around here...) or not play (in which case you're just reporting to the god thread anyway...)

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#39 Post by Foxcastle » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:24 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:23 pm
Squigs44 wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:18 pm
If it rolled mafia it would lie about the numbers it spits out by skewing them to help hide teammates. Definitely suboptimal since you wouldn't be able to get a good read on the bot itself. God thread updates would work.
I'm super intrigued by the experiment, but I think you can either play (in which case, running the bot is a persona, and we should treat it as any other meta, and given how much people dislike spreadsheets around here...) or not play (in which case you're just reporting to the god thread anyway...)
And to be clear, I hope you play, because I enjoy having you in the games.

We could compare how well your bot does against my spreadsheet!

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#40 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:49 pm

FYI, I will also be using a machine to identify everyone's alignment and role. If experience is any guide, it will be disquietingly accurate.

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