Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[brainbomb]

im also going to not wash away this game with this. ive stated my positions. you can choose to consider them, or let me die. thats fine either way.

not gonna affect me personally. the ideas are out there now and even in death those ideas dont die, they only get louder

[damo666]

No, just stop.

think about this logically.

scum usually roleblocks the target they kill. if they thought there was a chance jamie was a PR they wouldve probably roleblocked him. Why on earth would they roleblock food, like ever?

food tried to soft doc. anyone with a fucking brain can see it, plain as day. he wasnt softing hes frasier goddamn crane. use some common sense!

and when he sees now he has to retract that softing doc, he needs some other fallback to try to be cleared.

oh great, a roleblock. unprovable, something mafia can claim under scrutiny.

the main reason he retracted his doc claim and has spin zoned it, is because his best line of attack on ghug and myself is that we were anti town. an argument that resonates well with people like damo and chaqa who think anything fake at all is just bad, bad no matter what it did.

again, reread what happened. I beg and implore you on my knees to just go REREAD it. even if you dont reach that same conclusion I did, REREAD it. it doesnt look clean at all, it looks clunky, and it looks like he was searching for a way out of it all along

Why would they RB the NK in this set up?

Townslip from brain?

Why wouldn't they. Scumslip from damo?

Read on

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

[snip]
(My vote is staying here, there is an overwhelming body of evidence that food is mafia, and one of my voters is just playing a really bad game here)

And he votes me. Is this because I am a bad player?

Case on brain: baiting investigator (potentially), didn’t vote sweet, is only scumreading his voters.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Note how brainbomb is only targeting his voters.

Im actually focusing on trying to find out which one of you is just really bad at reading me. probably my fualt on some front but im quite sure that two of you are scum. and thats fine. if I die maybe someone will agree, cool.

what do you think of foodcoats read list where he says that sweet should be viewed the same as you?

I need to find it first. Do u have the post number?

[ghug]

We have an uncc roleblocked claim lol, that's kind of cool.

It's worth noting that the webDip meta is often to roleblock the nightkill to shield this information. I believe food in this instance, bit it's far from a free townie.

You make this claim all the time but I feel like it's more your meta to do that. I don't believe the data would back this up.

I said "often" not "predominantly". I think the data would back me up in the vanilla games, if nothing else because there's a huge sample of me as scum, but regardless, the option exists and is used regularly enough that you can't just clear an RB claim.

[ghug]

when I kept saying guilty, I had been watching alot of 90s sitcoms about courtrooms. I just wanted to use the word guilty alot because matlock is really special to me. it was never a cop soft. I just really wish matlock would be a mainstay in the american household.

matlock really matters to me alot. Im sorry if my repeatedly loving matlock confused you into thinking I was cop

Ok come on now. You know what you did.

yes, this was sarcasm based around foods claim that his doc soft was frasier crane stuff. I was trying to be ironic

Yeah I whooshed. It was a good bit.

[ghug]

Three things:

1. Frog, answer my questions and actually respond to Jamie's case. Given that you've acknowledged me at this point, it can no longer be attributed to laziness.
2. Anyone who has played with brain extensively and is currently voting for him is highly suspect. He is oozing town.
3. ##CALLGM I think you accidentally the doctor PM. Can you clarify the correct role text?

Doctor: You're the Town Doctor! For such a small town, you'd think they would employ more doctors... but nope, you're it! Each night, you can ##save a person from death if they are the target of the Mafia NK by submitting a ##scan order to the GMs via PM on Webdiplo or Discord. Good luck guessing those targets! You win when the scum team is eliminated.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Note how brainbomb is only targeting his voters.

Im actually focusing on trying to find out which one of you is just really bad at reading me. probably my fualt on some front but im quite sure that two of you are scum. and thats fine. if I die maybe someone will agree, cool.

what do you think of foodcoats read list where he says that sweet should be viewed the same as you?

I need to find it first. Do u have the post number?

I found it. I think it doesn’t matter. Ghug has differing reads from mine, but I do not scumread him for it.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Three things:

1. Frog, answer my questions and actually respond to Jamie's case. Given that you've acknowledged me at this point, it can no longer be attributed to laziness.
2. Anyone who has played with brain extensively and is currently voting for him is highly suspect. He is oozing town.
3. ##CALLGM I think you accidentally the doctor PM. Can you clarify the correct role text?

Doctor: You're the Town Doctor! For such a small town, you'd think they would employ more doctors... but nope, you're it! Each night, you can ##save a person from death if they are the target of the Mafia NK by submitting a ##scan order to the GMs via PM on Webdiplo or Discord. Good luck guessing those targets! You win when the scum team is eliminated.

Response to #2: He is NOT oozing town.

[ghug]

Three things:

1. Frog, answer my questions and actually respond to Jamie's case. Given that you've acknowledged me at this point, it can no longer be attributed to laziness.
2. Anyone who has played with brain extensively and is currently voting for him is highly suspect. He is oozing town.
3. ##CALLGM I think you accidentally the doctor PM. Can you clarify the correct role text?

Doctor: You're the Town Doctor! For such a small town, you'd think they would employ more doctors... but nope, you're it! Each night, you can ##save a person from death if they are the target of the Mafia NK by submitting a ##scan order to the GMs via PM on Webdiplo or Discord. Good luck guessing those targets! You win when the scum team is eliminated.

Response to #2: He is NOT oozing town.

I'm giving you a pass because brain oozing town presents similarly to a nuclear reactor leak to the untrained eye.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

everyone, and everyone else is 1000% town to me. to be very clear. I do not even have the slightest or remotest scumread on a single player outside those three

This is either mafia, really bad play, or he’s just not paying attention

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Response to #2: He is NOT oozing town.

I'm giving you a pass because brain oozing town presents similarly to a nuclear reactor leak to the untrained eye.

Chernobyl levels.

[Chaqa]

You are probably my #1 most likely busser, but Vecna could possibly have bussed.

I don't think I should qualify to be a busser as I didn't want to vote Sweet. I was voting to protect Bunny. You should be questioning why I would protect Bunny when Sweet was godfather.

More pointedly, if I was scum with Sweet, would it not have made sense for me to establish more of a town read on him so I would not be forced to vote him against my read on Bunny?

Basically, I think any chance I'm mafia existed with me being Bunny's teammate, but that would only work if Sweet had not been the Godfather. Since he was, it doesn't really make any sense for me to be scum.

Do not like this post.

Cry about it scumbo

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Three things:

1. Frog, answer my questions and actually respond to Jamie's case. Given that you've acknowledged me at this point, it can no longer be attributed to laziness.
2. Anyone who has played with brain extensively and is currently voting for him is highly suspect. He is oozing town.
3. ##CALLGM I think you accidentally the doctor PM. Can you clarify the correct role text?

Response to #2: He is NOT oozing town.

I'm giving you a pass because brain oozing town presents similarly to a nuclear reactor leak to the untrained eye.

So you think both me and brain are town?

[Chaqa]

##Vote Bozo

naked vote b/c its scummy

[brainbomb]

##Vote food

[worcej]

Three things:

1. Frog, answer my questions and actually respond to Jamie's case. Given that you've acknowledged me at this point, it can no longer be attributed to laziness.
2. Anyone who has played with brain extensively and is currently voting for him is highly suspect. He is oozing town.
3. ##CALLGM I think you accidentally the doctor PM. Can you clarify the correct role text?

Doctor: You're the Town Doctor! For such a small town, you'd think they would employ more doctors... but nope, you're it! Each night, you can ##save a person from death if they are the target of the Mafia NK by submitting a ##scan order to the GMs via PM on Webdiplo or Discord. Good luck guessing those targets! You win when the scum team is eliminated.

The exact text that was sent is the following:

You're the Town Doctor! For such a small town, you'd think they would employ more doctors... but nope, you're it! Each night, you can ##save a person from death if they are the target of the Mafia NK by submitting a ##scan order to the GMs via PM on Webdiplo or Discord. Good luck guessing those targets! You win when the scum team is eliminated.

[damo666]

everyone, and everyone else is 1000% town to me. to be very clear. I do not even have the slightest or remotest scumread on a single player outside those three

This is either mafia, really bad play, or he’s just not paying attention

it's just typical brain, he'll change his mind in a few hours

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##Vote food

Alright buddy

[worcej]

GM Note:
So yes, I missed a copy/paste error in the role writing step now that I look closely at it.

But that quote I just showed is the exact text I sent in the role PM.