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Re: M1009 [HIDDEN]

#1981 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:17 pm

I get you arent willing to even admit to being a scum candidate. which is admirable of you. but you dont exactly have a consistent stance on why goldy was scum, then town. then scum again

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#1982 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:17 pm

With regard to Neph, Rdrivera's accusation that I "took any small opportunity to jump on a town lynch (Nepthys and Tom)" is totally factually incorrect. I ask anyone who isn't sure on this point to check the Bot. I had no part in Neph's lynch.

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#1983 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:19 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:12 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:37 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:22 pm


It's an if-then relationship. But I find it interesting that you'd like us to believe a case on bozo is a case on goldfinger.

What is the case on goldfinger exactly?
Is it if bozo then gold, or is it if gold then bozo?

bb seemed to be suggesting the second one.

Gold is mostly POE for me. Do you think he is towny?
For me gold is town by POE. I think gold is less scummy than the alternatives. Other than yourself I had goldfinger as second-least-to-lynch.
foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:10 pm
##VOTE bozotheclown

Bozo is above goldfinger on my spectrum (bozo > gold > Jamie > brainbomb > xorxes) so I will park here to even the wagons until emc and rdr weigh in. Going into meetings now but will be back for EOD.

I also thought of another thing that makes me think xorxes is town (although this is of little relevance because I don't think xorxes is a lynch candidate): xorxes was really really adamant about both worcej and Tom. I don't think scum would be that adamant and allow the lynches to go through that way.
This is inconsistent, moving goldfinger from "second-least-to-lynch" to his second scum read.

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#1984 Post by foodcoats » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:19 pm

GG rdr.

I see I am wagon. I'll just point out that this is stupid because I am town AF, and I'll answer whatever unsupportable BS you scum are shlocking later. I am going to read Chaqfinger now.

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#1985 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:20 pm

##VOTE BOZO

CLOWN BOZO, HARD TIMES ARE COMING YOUR WAY, BABY.

I challenge you for the World Heavyweight Championship of the World. Right here, in this arena, today......

...IN A STEEL CAGE!

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#1986 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:21 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:16 pm
everyone voted gold bozo. even you. why not quote your own posts about goldy?
I know I am town and not a goldfinger busser. goldfinger's partners voted for him in the first 4 votes.

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#1987 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:23 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:15 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:53 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:42 am


Whoa. Would you care to elaborate on this egregious and hurtful remark?

I have investigated and pushed for the lynch of the people I scumread. I was wrong about Tom, I was dead right about Goldfinger, and I was genuine in my push on Bozo. Currently I'm sure AT LEAST one of Bozo and Xorxes is scum. Yeah?
You pushed mainly townies (Damo, Neph, Tom, emc). Bozo we don't yet but I think he is town. Your push on Gold wasn't exactly strong.

The key to scumread you is the lack of real power on your pushes. You have a lot of grandiloquent posts that mean nothing. You took any small opportunity to jump on a town lynch (Nepthys and Tom) and you just dissapeared on Worcej lynch ( as you townread him).
RIP Rdrivera.

Sorry to lose Rdrivera but in case anyone is motivated to scumread me based on his recent posts about me, I want to point out two problems with it:

1. Rdrivera claimed that I scumread and pushed Neph. This is absolutely false and I can only assume Rdrivera made an error, or mis-remembered here. At no point did I declare a scumread on Neph, and I did not join nor push the Neph wagon. I don't understand where Rdrivera got this mistaken impression from, but I feel the need to point out that it is totally wrong.

2. For some reason, part of Rdrivera's case against me is that I townread Worcej. I don't get this at all. I did indeed townread Worcej. I said as much, and I clearly argued against the Worcej wagon. I do not understand what is scummy about that.

Just for the record, yeah?
Why did you wait until rdrivera was gone to contest his arguments?

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#1988 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:24 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:21 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:16 pm
everyone voted gold bozo. even you. why not quote your own posts about goldy?
I know I am town and not a goldfinger busser. goldfinger's partners voted for him in the first 4 votes.
I dont really care what you claim to know or what you purport to be. Only a psychopath would openly play this endgame claiming scum. please do stop imsulting all the rest of us. were aware goldy was bussed. literally everyone voted him

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#1989 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:29 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:20 pm
##VOTE BOZO

CLOWN BOZO, HARD TIMES ARE COMING YOUR WAY, BABY.

I challenge you for the World Heavyweight Championship of the World. Right here, in this arena, today......

...IN A STEEL CAGE!
Do you now disagree with this:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:50 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:41 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:35 pm
I will vote for Bozo and Tom today.

Unlike weird Bozo, I do not feel the need to flip my vote from Bozo to Tom and back to Bozo to get the bot to record this. I am recording it by making this post.
I can join you on Tom, but not on bozo based on the evidence so far.

Do you agree with me that if Tom is scum, goldie is the top candidate to be his partner? Do you think the team is Tom-goldie-bozo?
I cannot see Bozo and Chaqa/Gold being scum together, given the effort Bozo went to in pushing Chaqa.

Do you think Bozo was bussing?

##VOTE TOM then

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#1990 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:30 pm

everyone start by explaining why their behavior was not bussing. use your three strongest quotes to support your claim

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#1991 Post by bozotheclown » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:30 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:24 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:21 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:16 pm
everyone voted gold bozo. even you. why not quote your own posts about goldy?
I know I am town and not a goldfinger busser. goldfinger's partners voted for him in the first 4 votes.
I dont really care what you claim to know or what you purport to be. Only a psychopath would openly play this endgame claiming scum. please do stop imsulting all the rest of us. were aware goldy was bussed. literally everyone voted him
My point was his partners bussed him early.

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#1992 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:33 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:23 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:15 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:53 am


You pushed mainly townies (Damo, Neph, Tom, emc). Bozo we don't yet but I think he is town. Your push on Gold wasn't exactly strong.

The key to scumread you is the lack of real power on your pushes. You have a lot of grandiloquent posts that mean nothing. You took any small opportunity to jump on a town lynch (Nepthys and Tom) and you just dissapeared on Worcej lynch ( as you townread him).
RIP Rdrivera.

Sorry to lose Rdrivera but in case anyone is motivated to scumread me based on his recent posts about me, I want to point out two problems with it:

1. Rdrivera claimed that I scumread and pushed Neph. This is absolutely false and I can only assume Rdrivera made an error, or mis-remembered here. At no point did I declare a scumread on Neph, and I did not join nor push the Neph wagon. I don't understand where Rdrivera got this mistaken impression from, but I feel the need to point out that it is totally wrong.

2. For some reason, part of Rdrivera's case against me is that I townread Worcej. I don't get this at all. I did indeed townread Worcej. I said as much, and I clearly argued against the Worcej wagon. I do not understand what is scummy about that.

Just for the record, yeah?
Why did you wait until rdrivera was gone to contest his arguments?
It is currently 3.30pm in the UK. I have a job. When he posted those arguments, I was in a work meeting, and not on here. I could only log back in just now.

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#1993 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:35 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:29 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:20 pm
##VOTE BOZO

CLOWN BOZO, HARD TIMES ARE COMING YOUR WAY, BABY.

I challenge you for the World Heavyweight Championship of the World. Right here, in this arena, today......

...IN A STEEL CAGE!
Do you now disagree with this:
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:50 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:41 pm


I can join you on Tom, but not on bozo based on the evidence so far.

Do you agree with me that if Tom is scum, goldie is the top candidate to be his partner? Do you think the team is Tom-goldie-bozo?
I cannot see Bozo and Chaqa/Gold being scum together, given the effort Bozo went to in pushing Chaqa.

Do you think Bozo was bussing?

##VOTE TOM then
Yes. That was some considerable time ago. I was legit surprised when Tom flipped town. My appraisal of the current situation is that of the players remaining, you are much more likely to be scum.

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#1994 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:37 pm

My quotes and snap votes on page 82 fall in line with my town meta.
At end of day I tried to bait people onto bozo for the sake of info. Thought maybe goldy would budge. he refused. had previously called bozo scum voted him D2 ending on him. Refused to vote him D4.

I looked scummy in the process but I would argue it makes me least likely to be husser as I didnt even get any cred at all.

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#1995 Post by Jamiet99uk » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:39 pm

My main doubt at this point concerns Xorxes. He is often an early NK as town. Yet I can see a canny scum team leaving him alive in order to create exactly this suspicion. Total WIFOM, I know.

Anyone: Did our Doc tell us who his save targets were?

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#1996 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:40 pm

bozo you had previously indicated that I was scum with xorxes if I recall correct. or scum with food.

How does goldfinger being on xorxes at end of day lead to you voting alongside xirxes instead of alongside goldfinger

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#1997 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:41 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:39 pm
My main doubt at this point concerns Xorxes. He is often an early NK as town. Yet I can see a canny scum team leaving him alive in order to create exactly this suspicion. Total WIFOM, I know.

Anyone: Did our Doc tell us who his save targets were?
the only one that matters was on himself. as it worked. and he traded his life 1 fir 1 in an endgame. seems like he did ok

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#1998 Post by e.m.c^42 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:42 pm

I think, considering the fact that scum had every chance to win and end the game yesterday, it is plausible that the reason they chose to sacrifice gold was probably because the roleblocker was seemingly more lynchable, yeah?

Either that, or since he knew he would be inactive, took a sacrifice in order to give other two cred. (implying other two were also on chopping block, so diversion?)

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#1999 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:45 pm

maybe gold just played lazy. and played poorly?

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#2000 Post by brainbomb » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:56 pm

id like to avoid simplistic diatribes.

lets talk about the nightkills.

N1 kill
damo

Vote Count Day 1
Nephthys (7)
xorxes Kakarroto foodcoats bozotheclown Chaqa damo666 Tom Bombadil

was a neph lyncher.
Day 1, Page 3 : g=1009&part=Day%201&user=damo666
damo666
Day-1 45:37
page 3 / orig ##vote Bozo

damo666
Day-1 45:36
page 3 / orig
↑worcej: "Guys, I think we should mass-claim. Totally will help us this game."
Ok. I'm the Doc

Votes bozo and claims doc.
was a late d1 goldy/chaqa voter

This implies damo sussed goldy and was a possible pr candidate in scums considerations.

KILL GRADE (how sophisticated does the kill look)
B-, (B+ If bozo is scum)
kills a mid range poster who sussed at max 2 scum
who fake claimed and duped scum.

□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□□
N2
KILL Kakkarrotto

worcej (5)
Kakarroto bozotheclown xorxes Tom Bombadil foodcoats

was lead worcej voter
voted xorxes, flav and worcej D2
voted emc, flav, damo, neph D1

Posted 25 times and 22 times. Lots of analytics.
Flips VT

Kill Grade D-
The kill doesnt appear to be motivated out of fear or pr hunting. I cant discern why this kill happened. It points to a scumteam with poorer ability to discern PR.

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