MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

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Sif Jamie had watched anyone but Sweet and seen Bona visit he would have considered doc and not advocated a kill. So he must have watched Sweet and seen Bona visit but have the slight concern Bona was roleblocked doc.

So, Bona is either scum or Roleblocked doc who is lying about N1 visit. But why like?

Bona is probably scum who planned to claim doc and use the N1 claim to explain N3 survival.

However as Bona remains unCCd (real doc do NOT claim) there is no point killing him yet but either vote or vig since if he is doc he won't survive 2 nights.

Vig (Will) should kill their best guess and then we reassess after the reveal . The vote should not influence the kill ( or kill off top wagon).

Removing rdr from my scumpool.

##vote heart

##CALLGM does a roleblocked town PR still visit whoever they attempted to visit?

So we just assuming I’m Vig now. Welp I’m going to die.

I was still asking about the doctor.

If you are the vig, you really need to get your shots off now. If you're not, eat a kill for a PR and be happy about it.

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OK...if bona is scum, then that means chaqa's "why not both" post was him open chaqa-ing on page 8.

##vote chaqa

Can you expand on this thought process?

Can you expand on this thought process?

Yes.

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Whats more likely? Jamie picked the right person to view (about 1/15 chance) or Bona visited Spirit and also got roleblocked (a 1/225 chance). The math doesn’t add up in Bona’s favor, and this is one of the reasons why I think its Bona

There is also the possibility that Jamie incorrectly suspected Bonatogether was mafia and not indicating a watch report.

It is because of this possibility that we should wait to DK Bonatogether, because if he is fake claiming, we will know it when we find out the identity of the real doctor.

Given how much game is left, there's value in letting the doctor stay hidden.

[ghug]

Without having read much further than this post I agree that vig should do something. I'd forgotten that town even had power roles until Jamie was revealed as one. I think town has enough padding right now to use vig at least once before its too late. Dont want vig to be another NK like Jamie was.

The crumbing has been a really interesting conversation. I didn't realize that that was a thing people did. I agree it looks like he is pointing fingers at Bona but I sped through the Bona = doctor discussion to try and catch up so I'll need to reread bc that confused me a lot.

Bunny, would heart really be unaware of crumbing?

Yeah...

Our first game at work had only 1 wagon a day with the mentality of "I don't want to stand out...so I'll just join everyone else!"

Second game I played and shook things up D1.

So they started playing MUCH better after that. But our PR/mech levels are still very very low.

He's just starting (as GM) now our first game with more mech play. We'll see what happens...

Would he remember discussions from his previous game here as scum?

[damo666]

Bayes is useless here. I think "rules" are more important as I'd guess doctor would just stay home if RBd.

ALSO DOCTOR WOULD CLAIM THEY WERE ROLEBLOCKED

Bingo. Bunny couldn't resist.

You said the magic words to get me to post...

math is stupid, never works right, and nobody understands it anyways

QED

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There is also the possibility that Jamie incorrectly suspected Bonatogether was mafia and not indicating a watch report.

I thought we knew Jamie knew Bona visited Spirit?

Scum slip?

For once, plausible.

[BunnyGo]

Bunny, would heart really be unaware of crumbing?

Yeah...

Our first game at work had only 1 wagon a day with the mentality of "I don't want to stand out...so I'll just join everyone else!"

Second game I played and shook things up D1.

So they started playing MUCH better after that. But our PR/mech levels are still very very low.

He's just starting (as GM) now our first game with more mech play. We'll see what happens...

Would he remember discussions from his previous game here as scum?

He's very smart and listens very very well.

He might not remember everything. But if it was a detailed topic of conversation in the scumchat, I'd bet on him remembering. If it was a quick mention, or not clearly explained then maybe not.

[ghug]

Sif Jamie had watched anyone but Sweet and seen Bona visit he would have considered doc and not advocated a kill. So he must have watched Sweet and seen Bona visit but have the slight concern Bona was roleblocked doc.

So, Bona is either scum or Roleblocked doc who is lying about N1 visit. But why like?

Bona is probably scum who planned to claim doc and use the N1 claim to explain N3 survival.

However as Bona remains unCCd (real doc do NOT claim) there is no point killing him yet but either vote or vig since if he is doc he won't survive 2 nights.

Vig (Will) should kill their best guess and then we reassess after the reveal . The vote should not influence the kill ( or kill off top wagon).

Removing rdr from my scumpool.

##vote heart

##CALLGM does a roleblocked town PR still visit whoever they attempted to visit?

If someone is roleblocked their action is not able to happen. They would be roleblocked and no visit would happen

Yeah ok Bona is just outed.

[damo666]

Bona Bozo Will?

##vote Will

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Bona Bozo Will?

##vote Will

Only damo would try to out someone as PR and then vote for them.

Even ignoring the rest of the game, no way scum bozo defends bona here.

[Bonatogether]

i'm unclear on what's happening with mechanics

[Bonatogether]

i've decided i'm only going to do isos from now in because engaging with bunny is unproductive

[heartthrob24909]

There is also the possibility that Jamie incorrectly suspected Bonatogether was mafia and not indicating a watch report.

It is because of this possibility that we should wait to DK Bonatogether, because if he is fake claiming, we will know it when we find out the identity of the real doctor.

Given how much game is left, there's value in letting the doctor stay hidden.

##vote Bona

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

There is also the possibility that Jamie incorrectly suspected Bonatogether was mafia and not indicating a watch report.

I thought we knew Jamie knew Bona visited Spirit?

Scum slip?

How? It was you all that were talking about it. It was such a weird scenario that I assumed we had confirmation.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

There is also the possibility that Jamie incorrectly suspected Bonatogether was mafia and not indicating a watch report.

It is because of this possibility that we should wait to DK Bonatogether, because if he is fake claiming, we will know it when we find out the identity of the real doctor.

Given how much game is left, there's value in letting the doctor stay hidden.

I think the doctor is hiding.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Bona Bozo Will?

##vote Will

I assume voting me is because you think its Bona. Why would you not just vote Bona?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I thought we knew Jamie knew Bona visited Spirit?

Scum slip?

For once, plausible.

Again, how is it a scum slip?

[damo666]

##vote Chaqa

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Scum slip?

For once, plausible.

Again, how is it a scum slip?

Scum are likely to have unwarranted confidence about what actually happened if they know what actually happened.

[bozotheclown]

Whats more likely? Jamie picked the right person to view (about 1/15 chance) or Bona visited Spirit and also got roleblocked (a 1/225 chance). The math doesn’t add up in Bona’s favor, and this is one of the reasons why I think its Bona

There is also the possibility that Jamie incorrectly suspected Bonatogether was mafia and not indicating a watch report.

A watcher ending the two nights they're alive with "If I die, kill whoever you think best." and "If I die, kill Bona." seems pretty clear to me.

Jamie also said this, which is not clear that Jamie had confirmed Bonatogether as mafia:

tl;dr:

Flip Bonatogether tomorrow, and if he is scum, flip BunnyGo.

If Bonatogether dies and is not scum, flip Chaqa or JustWill.