Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[damo666]

##vote DemonRHK

##vote RagingIke

[worcej]

##unend ##VOTE Flash

Why flash? This is an interesting shift IMO.

[Squigs44]

How do people generally feel about DemonRHK. Who would vote for him today?

DemonRHK was my preferred wagon Day 2, and he has not done anything that has changed my view.

That said, he went after Yavuz pretty hard on Day 1 in a way that seems unlikely to be bussing. So, I doubt that Yavuz and DemonRHK are scum together.

I think the Yavuz flip may tell us something about DemonRHK, or else the DemonRHK flip may tell us something about Yavuz.

I could go either way.

This is why I asked that question. I also don't think both of them can be scum together. I like this post from Balki.

I still think Yav is scummier than anyone else, but looking at the DemonRHK interactions gave me pause.

[Balki Bartokomous]

If you think a teammate has slipped, you treat them as lost and try to get cred for catching them. Scum are more likely to see a slip as damning, because they have the bias of knowing the slipper is scum.

Fair point.

Though, it seemed early to me for DemonRHK to think that yavuz was irredeemable.

[ND]

I'll ##unend but I don't really see a better option than yav.

[RagingIke297]

##vote DemonRHK

##vote RagingIke

DrCJG is already on me, when are the rest of your friends going to make their way over?

[Squigs44]

RagingIke is looking scummier. DemonRHK is probably town. This Flash vote seems off to me. I can see Flash being scum, but I think there are better options. The flash vote just seems like a safe alternative to a Yav vote.

[Squigs44]

@Balki - Do you think RHK is scummier than Yav?

[RagingIke297]

RagingIke is looking scummier. DemonRHK is probably town. Snipped

Can you elaborate a little on this please?

[ghug]

##unend ##VOTE Flash

Why flash? This is an interesting shift IMO.

I only switched to yav because it seemed inevitable. If we are having a real day, I'd like it to be flash vs. yav.

[worcej]

Shit, apparently Ike is a legit wagon now! Sign me up!

##unend
##vote Ike

Again, my reasons for Ike have been:

1. Poor effort in responding to Jaime and my spat.
2. Deflective posting to ghug and Bo's pressure on D1/D2 respectively.
3. DrCJG train/pressure in response to votes on him.

What I don't like about his wagon is how some of the votes have been put on him. Durga's has no reasoning behind it and I can't find a moment where she has read him as scum or even a lean... The other three have at least expressed interest/reads of Ike as scum.

Durga, why are you voting for Ike suddenly?

[Squigs44]

RagingIke is looking scummier. DemonRHK is probably town. Snipped

Can you elaborate a little on this please?

RHK is probably town because off his interactions with Yav. I suppose if Yav somehow flips town then RHK looks scummy again. I just think Yav is much scummier than DemonRHK.

I offered up DemonRHK to see if anyone would flip off of Yav onto RHK without reasoning. You weren't voting before you voted RHK, but the vote you had was lacking any reasoning, or any reference to Yav whatsoever.

[yavuzovic]

Lynching RHK is the best option today ##vote RHK
Because you say if I'm scum RHK isn't
________________ if he is scum, I ain't
I am town. Lynching RHK will be both removing a possible scum and if he is scum I will be cleared. If he is town, we are in trouble.

[ghug]

Can someone explain to me why Ike is a wagon?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Balki - Do you think RHK is scummier than Yav?

Well, my hesitation with the Yavuz vote is simply that I've seen fairly erratic and unusual play from him as town before, so I find him hard to predict.

I'll try to spend some time looking at both this evening, and maybe I can refine my thinking some. Right now, it's basically a toss-up.

[yavuzovic]

Can someone explain to me why Ike is a wagon?

Yes I asked this before too. You didn't answer

[worcej]

Can someone explain to me why Ike is a wagon?

I think I did enough explaining.

[Squigs44]

@Balki - Do you think RHK is scummier than Yav?

Well, my hesitation with the Yavuz vote is simply that I've seen fairly erratic and unusual play from him as town before, so I find him hard to predict.

I'll try to spend some time looking at both this evening, and maybe I can refine my thinking some. Right now, it's basically a toss-up.

Truth. In the tiny hunt game he voted me the last day for "lurking". I was the top poster that game posting 3 times as much as Yav. This is another reason I wouldn't mind lynching him today. If he is town we don't lose a whole lot, but we gain info on RHK and others.

[ghug]

Can someone explain to me why Ike is a wagon?

Yes I asked this before too. You didn't answer

I see a full explanation from wocej and at least a reason from damo, namely the RHK vote. bo is still on about the day one misleading, I think, which I brought up originally but don't buy now. I don't see any reasoning from Durga.

[Durga]

Shit, apparently Ike is a legit wagon now! Sign me up!

##unend
##vote Ike

Again, my reasons for Ike have been:

1. Poor effort in responding to Jaime and my spat.
2. Deflective posting to ghug and Bo's pressure on D1/D2 respectively.
3. DrCJG train/pressure in response to votes on him.

What I don't like about his wagon is how some of the votes have been put on him. Durga's has no reasoning behind it and I can't find a moment where she has read him as scum or even a lean... The other three have at least expressed interest/reads of Ike as scum.

Durga, why are you voting for Ike suddenly?

Mood