MAFIA 63: THE SCOURGE [HIDDEN]

[Hellenic Riot]

EoN1 Reads List:

aarodactyl - No real thoughts, though I'm not a fan of the way he gave himself the option to vote both Maniac and ND and that's about it D1, particularly when he made posts interacting with a lot of other people

Bonatogether - Slight scum... The way he came out to say he might look suspicious because he has to play differently this time due to plus ones being banned sounded an awful lot like a pre-emptive defence.

Bozotheclown - Standard. Null.

brainbomb - Much more like the brain of yore, and I'm not a huge fan of some of his arguments (suggesting that ghug was sheeping Durga onto ND when ghug started the ND wagon is a pretty huge thing to have somehow overlooked). But then, that's exactly what I'd have expected of the brain of yore, so who knows.

BunnyGo - His attack on me D1 felt extremely different to the way he played last game where he was friendly and cheerful and avoided conflict, so I'm leaning town. I also find PE's case that Bunny is scum because he's not posting at night to be full of a gigantic hole stemming from the fact that 1 weird town night (where Bunny was the top poster only because a lot of people had already begun not talking that night) is his only proof that this is a scumtell for him.

celaph - One of the people on a pretty weak ND wagon and then ends up voting Maniac, not the best of looks either way. Expected somewhat more. Null.

damo666 - Leaning town, seems a lot more willing to engage people than last game, but I've been fooled before

DemonRHK - Very serious very fast, but I think that's a pretty solid townmove and I don't expect him to have been the first to break the start of game shitposts as scum. Liked his consistency too. Strong Town.

Donny Dude - No thoughts whatsoever

Durga - Scum. The following onto ND felt opportunistic and without belief, and until the moment where I said I scumread her I felt she was being extremely friendly and basically as inoffensive as possible, and only after that was she jolted into pushing harder on ND too and being somewhat more proactive. I feel like the way she pushed Chaqa and then gave up on it later was very inauthentic too - Basically folding into other people's reads of him rather than firmly believing in it herself.

emc - Still shocked he followed my botscan read vote on rdrivera given he'd already brought up last game and clearly therefore remembers how I'd made a similar (though much more detailed) case on him then. Don't think he'd have the balls to start a wagon on me as scum given what happened last game though, so I'm leaning town.

ghug - Fairly town. Like the way he recused himself from the option of voting me when I came up, given it's very different to his scumplay in M60, though of course he could have anticipated that I'd not be daykilled anyway. Also think that his criticism of the Maniac wagon despite how weak his own wagon was is something he'd lack the confidence to do as scum.

Hamilton Brian - I don't think I've ever noticed HB less than I have in this game, which is somewhat jarring and not a good thing. Slight scum who definitely needs to be looked into more.

Jamie - Responded to my bait with the aggression I'd expect him to show as town and which was so lacking last game, though the fact everyone had basically spelt out exactly why Jamie was so scummy to him last game means that a conscious change of meta is possible. Unlikely though. Leaning town.

NCej - No opinion at all

President Eden - Found myself fundamentally disagreeing with an awful lot of what he's said, but my only previous memory of him is all the way back in M10 and I do recall his leadership being a big part in the town imploding that game, so maybe that's just how he is

rdrivera - Scum. Very scum. No opinions or thoughts on anyone D1 which is so completely out of character for someone who seems to usually do as much as they can D1 before they get NK'd. Comes in N1 to basically OMGUS me without any thoughts of a case or indeed without remotely interacting with the myriad of people who had townread me for exactly the same stuff he was claiming was my obvious scum meta. He's done absolutely nothing to try and find scum aside from that, and he just ain't town.

Vecna - Ah yes, he exists.

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Since I typed this in advance I've read Bona's reads list and the fact that he basically townreads everyone except Bunny is not something I like at all. Increases my scumread on him. The fact he's nowhere near as interested in needling people who scumread him (something which was basically his defining trait last game) is also the total opposite of how I expected him to react.

Did anyone else read DemonRHK so much? It's weird to me that HR's only strong town read was killed. That reads scummy to me.

Clearly some other people were reading DemonRHK, else he wouldn't be dead

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote rdrivera

Quite content to sit here

Shocked at the scum read from HR tbh, and I don't want to be his next tunnel victim I don't have the energy for that

Why are you shocked? I openly told you I thought you were scum yesterday. And given I made it quite clear that I scumread rdrivera more, I don't really see why you think I'd be tunnelling you here either.

[brainbomb]

well thats strange

[ghug]

##vote rdrivera

Quite content to sit here

Shocked at the scum read from HR tbh, and I don't want to be his next tunnel victim I don't have the energy for that

Why are you shocked? I openly told you I thought you were scum yesterday. And given I made it quite clear that I scumread rdrivera more, I don't really see why you think I'd be tunnelling you here either.

What do you think of Durga's rd vote out of the gate?

[brainbomb]

##Vote HR

[ghug]

##Vote HR

Why?

[brainbomb]

have you been living in a cave?

##Vote HR

Why?

[ghug]

Aaro, if you don't vote within twelve hours of the day's start, I'll tunnel you again.

[ghug]

have you been living in a cave?

##Vote HR

Why?

Pretty much

[Jamiet99uk]

have you been living in a cave?

Why?

Pretty much

I heard it was more of a "caravan".

[Hellenic Riot]

##vote rdrivera

Quite content to sit here

Shocked at the scum read from HR tbh, and I don't want to be his next tunnel victim I don't have the energy for that

Why are you shocked? I openly told you I thought you were scum yesterday. And given I made it quite clear that I scumread rdrivera more, I don't really see why you think I'd be tunnelling you here either.

What do you think of Durga's rd vote out of the gate?

Given she showed no inclination whatsoever to join me on him yesterday it's rather surprising

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi Bozo.

[brainbomb]

its BOZO the happy clown

[Donny Dude]

My notes for DemonRHK was "new" and I had no read on them

This seems like an odd initial response to me since it refers to notes and how they had no read.

[Hellenic Riot]

have you been living in a cave?

##Vote HR

Why?

Didn't you scumread me because you thought I was scum with ghug, and then realise you were wrong about the foundation of your scumread on ghug and thought that Durga was instead scum?

"Why?" is a pretty reasonable question here

[Durga]

##vote rdrivera

Quite content to sit here

Shocked at the scum read from HR tbh, and I don't want to be his next tunnel victim I don't have the energy for that

Why are you shocked? I openly told you I thought you were scum yesterday. And given I made it quite clear that I scumread rdrivera more, I don't really see why you think I'd be tunnelling you here either.

I can't understand why you think I'm scum. Town!HR hasnt scum read town!me and you seem quite sure of it so I'm really confused

[Durga]

##vote rdrivera

Quite content to sit here


Why are you shocked? I openly told you I thought you were scum yesterday. And given I made it quite clear that I scumread rdrivera more, I don't really see why you think I'd be tunnelling you here either.

What do you think of Durga's rd vote out of the gate?

Given she showed no inclination whatsoever to join me on him yesterday it's rather surprising

I said it wasn't his time

[Donny Dude]

##vote celaph

Damo
why celaph?
You barely mention him in your iso.

[bozotheclown]

That was her third game.

You said she "was town in the 2 games she played".

Did she play in the game she had to be subbed out of?

You seem to have ignored my post where I pointed out that it was incorrect to say she was "absent" in her town games, and that she was yet another example of someone getting subbed D1 as scum.

##VOTE worcej

[rdrivera2005]

##vote rdrivera

Quite content to sit here

Shocked at the scum read from HR tbh, and I don't want to be his next tunnel victim I don't have the energy for that

Why are you shocked? I openly told you I thought you were scum yesterday. And given I made it quite clear that I scumread rdrivera more, I don't really see why you think I'd be tunnelling you here either.

Well, I am pretty sure you are scum and this is exactly your scum meta. You lying to build a case on me is exactly what you did on the Matrix game. It worked there because most players are afraid to kill you for some reason I can't understand.
I gave reads, either town and scum but I don't pretend I have reads on people I barely remember that were playing.

##vote HR