Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Balki Bartokomous]

What exactly was the point of this?

I'm sick of all your ALL CAPS tirades in the Mafia QT, and so I'd like to get you lynched so that us scum can talk in peace. I've also requested that JMO post his "take it easy" message in the Mafia QT as well, but he said "Sorry bro, not my jurisdiction."

[ChippeRock]

What exactly was the point of this?

I'm sick of all your ALL CAPS tirades in the Mafia QT, and so I'd like to get you lynched so that us scum can talk in peace. I've also requested that JMO post his "take it easy" message in the Mafia QT as well, but he said "Sorry bro, not my jurisdiction."

I haven't gone on any ALL CAPS tirades to my knowledge... I may have capitalized certain words for emphasis, but I haven't gone overboard with ALL CAPS.

[Balki Bartokomous]

^ Town.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Questions for the team:

✾ If Flavius were scum, would he have fake claimed a PR given what seemed like his impending doom?

✾ Who was most responsible for making Bozo, and not TrPrado, Foxy, Durga, Chippe or someone else, the chief alternative to Flavius at EOD?

✾ Would any of these ALL CAPS blowhards be doing this as a scum tactic, or is this a traditional Town on Town meltdown? If so, which ones, and what is their motivation?

✾ If you are thinking that one of these All CAPS blowhard is faking all this emotion, do you think that said ALL CAPS blowhard has the capacity to fake emotion at this level?

✾ Was EOD1 frenzied and dynamic, or generally settled? What, if anything, does that tell you about alignments and team motivations?

✾ Who acted calm at EOD1? Who acted determined or super motivated at EOD1?

φ I can't say that for certain. Why do you ask?

φ My opinion, as someone who was in the thick of EOD: our hand was forced on bozo being the alternative because there were three people parked on him who were either absent for EOD or unwilling to move. Those people were damo666, et, and Percy Williams.

φ I don't know them well enough to say but I think the blowhards are town.

φ n/a

φ EOD felt dynamic yet settled if that makes sense. The town quickly broke down into a faction who wanted to be rid of Flavius and a faction who didn't. The faction who didn't, notably, was not all that enthusiastic about bozo dying. We looked for other targets--TrPrado comes to mind--but there was a steady escalation of people voting for Flavius that eventually forced us to dogpile bozo at the end. So while the target of the pro-Flavius faction fluctuated, the frame of the discussion did not.

φ This one is too hard for me to say because I was too involved in it.

[Squigs44]

Questions for the team:

✾ If Flavius were scum, would he have fake claimed a PR given what seemed like his impending doom?

✾ Who was most responsible for making Bozo, and not TrPrado, Foxy, Durga, Chippe or someone else, the chief alternative to Flavius at EOD?

✾ Would any of these ALL CAPS blowhards be doing this as a scum tactic, or is this a traditional Town on Town meltdown? If so, which ones, and what is their motivation?

✾ If you are thinking that one of these All CAPS blowhard is faking all this emotion, do you think that said ALL CAPS blowhard has the capacity to fake emotion at this level?

✾ Was EOD1 frenzied and dynamic, or generally settled? What, if anything, does that tell you about alignments and team motivations?

✾ Who acted calm at EOD1? Who acted determined or super motivated at EOD1?

✾Flav seemed pretty chill in the way he was pushing TrPrado instead of Bozo up until the last 2 minutes. If he had claimed a PR it would have undermined that chill vibe, so I think it is unlikely he would have claimed a PR if he were scum. I frankly think he is town, so this question seems a bit moot to me.

✾ Well, Bozo's journey to top counterwagon started slow but gained momentum late. The first three votes, Percy, et, and damo, were all placed several hours in advance, and none of them were really around at EoD pushing that wagon. I moved onto him, then off again, then back onto him with 7 minutes left. This made it 7-4-4 to put Bozo's wagon tied with TrPrado's. Rdrivera came next, then Chippe, then connorcompton, then Carl, then Flav himself, Rdr moved off then back on (due to some misinformation he received) and then Bozo moved onto Flav. Neph sealed the deal on Bozo, and Tom moved last for good measure. You could have gotten all of that from the bot I suppose, but my point is that it happened really quickly, and there really wasn't a single person championing the Bozo lynch. Chippe and I were probably the two that were most vocal about it. I would say overall the votes on Bozo were more a result of townreads on Flav and TrPrado than anything else. Short answer to your question, there wasn't a single person responsible, but Chippe and I were probably the main proponents there.

Next questions to follow in my next post.

[Squigs44]

Forgot peterbot's lines contain more words. He had 1 post that was longer than 2 peterbot* lines. It's not like peterbot lines are super long, so trying to defend ND on technicalities is ridiculous.

I could care less about defending ND my point was to show you that you make mistakes in a lot of your posts to try to humble you a little bit. You point out other people's mistakes all the time and act as if you have this perfect game.

Act like I have this perfect game? If that's your definition of it, quite a few people have "acted like they have played perfect games".

Yes, there are quite a few people in this game that drive me crazy, but you are the most prolific poster out of these people.

[Squigs44]

Questions for the team:

✾ Would any of these ALL CAPS blowhards be doing this as a scum tactic, or is this a traditional Town on Town meltdown? If so, which ones, and what is their motivation?

✾ If you are thinking that one of these All CAPS blowhard is faking all this emotion, do you think that said ALL CAPS blowhard has the capacity to fake emotion at this level?

✾ Was EOD1 frenzied and dynamic, or generally settled? What, if anything, does that tell you about alignments and team motivations?

✾ Who acted calm at EOD1? Who acted determined or super motivated at EOD1?

✾ Yes, all of them would do it. All caps blowhards are the hardest type of players for me to read because I want to lynch them while townreading them simultaneously. Probably the best way to catch them is through the links to other players, which requires other players to flip. Honestly, after thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if ND and Chippe were scummates, genuinely getting at each others throats. Their actions are more clash of personality indicative than alignment indicative imo.

✾ I know for a fact ND can fake it, I have been his scummate when he has done it. I feel like Chippe could do it too, because if he were scum he would still feel like it was him vs the rest of the player base which is the general emotion I get from him.

✾ I kinda already answered this. It felt too chill for how much movement there was, which to me means Flav is likely town. Neph's EoD honestly doesn't look good no matter what Flav's alignment though, since he spent most of the time off wagon then jumped on Bozo at the very end securing Bozo as the lead wagon. I think Durga looks good no matter what Flav's alignment there, because if Flav were scum, Durga put Flav up against Bozo when it was close, and if Flav were town, Durga's push on Neph and then resigned move to Flav wouldn't make sense either.

✾ Flav was too calm. Carl was too motivated. In general most people were too calm.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Questions for the team:

✾ If Flavius were scum, would he have fake claimed a PR given what seemed like his impending doom?

✾ Who was most responsible for making Bozo, and not TrPrado, Foxy, Durga, Chippe or someone else, the chief alternative to Flavius at EOD?

✾ Would any of these ALL CAPS blowhards be doing this as a scum tactic, or is this a traditional Town on Town meltdown? If so, which ones, and what is their motivation?

✾ If you are thinking that one of these All CAPS blowhard is faking all this emotion, do you think that said ALL CAPS blowhard has the capacity to fake emotion at this level?

✾ Was EOD1 frenzied and dynamic, or generally settled? What, if anything, does that tell you about alignments and team motivations?

✾ Who acted calm at EOD1? Who acted determined or super motivated at EOD1?

φ I can't say that for certain. Why do you ask?

φ My opinion, as someone who was in the thick of EOD: our hand was forced on bozo being the alternative because there were three people parked on him who were either absent for EOD or unwilling to move. Those people were damo666, et, and Percy Williams.

φ I don't know them well enough to say but I think the blowhards are town.

φ n/a

φ EOD felt dynamic yet settled if that makes sense. The town quickly broke down into a faction who wanted to be rid of Flavius and a faction who didn't. The faction who didn't, notably, was not all that enthusiastic about bozo dying. We looked for other targets--TrPrado comes to mind--but there was a steady escalation of people voting for Flavius that eventually forced us to dogpile bozo at the end. So while the target of the pro-Flavius faction fluctuated, the frame of the discussion did not.

φ This one is too hard for me to say because I was too involved in it.

Just reflecting on my Flavius read and trying to put EOD into context. It is a rare and unique thing to have a player continue in the game after being so close to death. If we determine that the most likely reaction of Scum!Flavius to being in that position was something different than what happened, then that is obviously very useful info.

Considering the Bozo wagon ultimately won by 4, it doesn't feel quite right that your hand was forced. Though, just because that was the end result does not mean you did not feel like you had no choice at the time. Either way, it's interesting you put it that way -- "hand was forced." You were really that sure that Flavius was Town that you were just trying to save him? How could you have that much certainty on Day 1 with no flips? And does the Bozo flip impact your view at all?

I feel like the ALL CAPS blowhards tend to be town too. And I lean that way here. Who would you put in this group in this game? (the town blowhard group)

Given you think that the dynamic was Lynch Flavius, or Don't Lynch Flavius, and given that we know the mafia team knew Bozo was town, does that tell you anything at all about whether Mafia was likely to be part of the late movers, or do you need more info to tackle that question?

[ChippeRock]

Questions for the team:

✾ If Flavius were scum, would he have fake claimed a PR given what seemed like his impending doom?

✾ Who was most responsible for making Bozo, and not TrPrado, Foxy, Durga, Chippe or someone else, the chief alternative to Flavius at EOD?

✾ Would any of these ALL CAPS blowhards be doing this as a scum tactic, or is this a traditional Town on Town meltdown? If so, which ones, and what is their motivation?

✾ If you are thinking that one of these All CAPS blowhard is faking all this emotion, do you think that said ALL CAPS blowhard has the capacity to fake emotion at this level?

✾ Was EOD1 frenzied and dynamic, or generally settled? What, if anything, does that tell you about alignments and team motivations?

✾ Who acted calm at EOD1? Who acted determined or super motivated at EOD1?

• No, that would of been too suspicious - he would of instead just joined the bozo counterwagon. But, he is a new-ish player so maybe he would have claimed a PR. But in my opinion, best scum move was to either join the counterwagon, or join another wagon and than last minute switch to the counterwagon. I think he legitimately tried getting the TrPrado wagon off the ground, but ran out of time.
• It wasn't really a who... Several people had parked their vote on bozo, and unfortunately, they weren't online at EoD - resulting in an inflexibility to find an alternative wagon that was more scummy to counter Flav's wagon. This kind of forced the others to adjust, and eventually resulted in a bozo lynch. Additionally, the inflexibility of anybody on the Flav wagon to switch wagons forced us to band together.
• Flav is the only ALL CAPS blowhard I can see - maybe ND to a degree as well. For Flav, I really don't know what to think about this aggressiveness of his, but considering he immediately came out into Night aggressive - far too little time for it to be coordinated on the Mafia QT - I think he's very likely town. Especially his vigorous defense of me - which I attribute to my large role in avoiding his mislynch. ND is simply using ALL CAPS to belittle and get his point/insult across - that's not scum indication in my opinion, but his other actions are in my opinion. I don't know what Town v. Town meltdown you're referring to - I can only think of myself & ND, but I don't think all of us have gone overboard with the ALL CAPS.
• I feel that ND & Flav ALL CAPS legitimately reflect their emotions.
• Frenzied for sure - I don't think a lot of people voted for their #1 scumread. In my opinion, the majority of bozo's wagon didn't want to lynch bozo - there were a couple options they would of rather lynched - but due to the inflexibility of the voters on both Flav's & bozo's wagon - we had to choose the wagon that we felt was most scummy: Flav's or bozo's. I really have no insight on the moves of people outside of my foursome of voters (Flav, connor, Carl, & I), but I know people within our group wanted to vote other people who were far more scummy in our opinions - but due to the aforementioned inflexibility on Flav's & bozo's wagons, we had to choose the most scummy of bozo vs Flav, and we felt that bozo was the obvious more scummy. I in particular felt they were both town, but realized that due to the inflexibility of Flav's & bozo's wagons, I had to choose the most scummy of the two. In the end, I think the two wagons represented 2 factions: those that believed Flav was scum, and those who believed he wasn't scum. I think that those two wagons have so many voters only because a lot of people felt they had to decide which one was less scummy - not that they actually felt that their wagon was on an actual scum. I personally feel that Flav's wagon contained probably around 3 scum - but that's all I can offer for what I feel are nonsensical votes on Flav.
• I was too invested in the EoD (helping orchestrate, with one message the flip of 4 people from Prado to bozo) to really offer any insight on this.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Just reflecting on my Flavius read and trying to put EOD into context. It is a rare and unique thing to have a player continue in the game after being so close to death. If we determine that the most likely reaction of Scum!Flavius to being in that position was something different than what happened, then that is obviously very useful info.

Considering the Bozo wagon ultimately won by 4, it doesn't feel quite right that your hand was forced. Though, just because that was the end result does not mean you did not feel like you had no choice at the time. Either way, it's interesting you put it that way -- "hand was forced." You were really that sure that Flavius was Town that you were just trying to save him? How could you have that much certainty on Day 1 with no flips? And does the Bozo flip impact your view at all?

I feel like the ALL CAPS blowhards tend to be town too. And I lean that way here. Who would you put in this group in this game? (the town blowhard group)

Given you think that the dynamic was Lynch Flavius, or Don't Lynch Flavius, and given that we know the mafia team knew Bozo was town, does that tell you anything at all about whether Mafia was likely to be part of the late movers, or do you need more info to tackle that question?

☦ I was already pretty sure Flavius was town but his continued efforts with death looming solidified it for me. I've seen mafia fight to avoid the lynch before, of course, but never like this. He did exactly what I would like to think I'd do if I were town up for lynch: continue playing like I'm not, pushing my scum reads and make myself as useful as possible.
Notably it was a complete reversal of the "defensive and nervous" characterization that so many people lazily latched onto from the beginning of the day. That's why I was so adamant about my question and why I remain so suspicious of the people that voted him. I truly have no clue how anybody could read his EOD and think he was being defensive. He gave no fucks that he was on the chopping block and kept solving. Mad respect.

I don't know what mafia Flavius would do there but most mafia I see in that spot just latch on to whatever alternative they can find and turtle up on defense--they've realized their end is near and they're just hoping to avoid a lynch for one more day because it stalls town discussion even longer, which is worth the price paid at that point once your time is up.
Flavius did the opposite.

☦ Check the peterbot, with seven minutes to go we were losing 7-4. A lot of people piled on the final minute.
Yes, I was, and am, sure.
I don't know how to explain it in words I haven't already said. After an admittedly rough start he got to solving, and with his death looming he kept pushing his scumreads and trying to get a wagon on the people he suspected and not just whoever would let him live. He had no fear he was going to die. That's ideal town play.
If anything I am at a loss for words that people still don't buy this.
The bozo flip is irrelevant to Flavius's alignment.

☦ I put Chippe in town definitely.
ND bothers me more because his bit looks so much more like a shtick than Chippe. If either of them are putting on airs it's ND, but I'm not sure either are. I have trouble with this read because I don't know ND's routine enough to tell if he's laying it on or always like this or what.
I guess I'd lean town on ND but man I'm not sure about that.

☦ I somewhat need more info, but the fact that in my mind both wagons are certainly town does matter a lot for what mafia would do.
I expect mafia in that circumstance to be more static and parked on older points. Mafia already don't have a dynamic mindset because they start with all the information, so they fall into a tendency of remaining fixed because their understanding of the game isn't sincerely evolving the way townies' understanding is. It feels safer for mafia to be static and uninspiring during a town-town wagon than to get caught making an awkward or unexplained move that potentially triggers a dogpile on them and ruins things.

That actually brings me to you, funny enough. Why were you still set on Flavius based on information from the beginning of the day, within 2 hours of EOD? Hadn't he done anything in all of his posting interim to influence your views? (And how do you feel about him now, with EOD behind us?)

[Balki Bartokomous]

That actually brings me to you, funny enough. Why were you still set on Flavius based on information from the beginning of the day, within 2 hours of EOD? Hadn't he done anything in all of his posting interim to influence your views? (And how do you feel about him now, with EOD behind us?)

Yeah, I definitely have my Flavius read on my mind. It's true that a lot happened in the game between the time I first developed by Flavius read and the end of day 1. Generally, Flavius was very active for a flury early in the game. Then he was away for a long time (perhaps longer than 24 hours? Quite a while). And he finally came back on the scene for the final few hours and pushed some cases on others.

I put a lot of stock in "readable moments," which to me means any event in the thread likely to generate an authentic and immediate response. Usually we need significant shifts in the game state to create these kinds of moment -- PR claims, EOD scrambles, flips. And I think early surprises, right when the game begins, can occasionally fit this profile too. Or at least I think it did here.

I think these kinds of readable moments are generally richer sources of alignment indicative behavior. So Flavius's reentry into the thread after being away for a long time wasn't very probative for me. The final hour of the day, with a gun to his head, however, could be fertile ground. And I'm at least aware that I need to take a close look at that. I just haven't put in the time to study that yet. I will. I'll let you know how I feel if anything changes.

[TrPrado]

The grace of the moon shall bless me in this venture of analyzing the world as it sits before us. My rereads shall be my stepping stones on the path to glory. I don't actually care much how others view it because it wasn't meant for you, it was meant for He Who Must Find The Way: myself. The only reason they were posts was so that I could ask those questions, hope to get answers to them, and have some sort of basis for context to them so the reader wouldn't get lost. The little analysis I put in was more along the lines of footnotes in this regard. It seemed shallow and bare because people wanted to read into it but I wasn't wanting to provide anything to be read into yet.

I will be sticking with the order of first posting.

Let Us Begin:

Squigs:
When he did a bigger post explaining his methodology I think I'd already typed out his section and questions and was working on someone else. Gut reads were really a reaction test, at least that's what the stated goals of "entertain myself and generate content" seem to be. Which was coincidentally the one possibility I would accept when I talked about him not following what he stated.
The point where I will continue to disagree with him is when he talks about his critique of the list Flavius posted. He talks about extrapolating to Flavius having 14 scum reads. Which he didn't. I don't see the point of extrapolation except to go out of your way to pick a fight. He's also giving teacon WAY too much credit for "asking questions" because a large portion of his questions he'd asked by this point were jokes.
And regarding his point about

I didn't say I wasn't going to use meta, I said I would try to be more careful. I would say that so far this game I have used meta less than usual.

The instance I was referring to was him basing an entire vote on meta. He's since then made more of an argument on Tom, but he relies on meta at the start of it more than he implied he would.
His answer about when he does and doesn't hedge is fine. EOD could use a little more info before analyzing his choices, earmark them nonetheless.

Foxcastle:
I asked a single 2 part question. Who is on the scum team and why. Then he largely goes into a big stream of consciousness post about his reads. He talks a lot about reasons certain people are NOT scum, but does very little to explain why he scum reads certain people. He says he doesn't think it's likely for Flavius to be scum and then votes for him essentially "just in case" which is already a little weird, but when he actually gives his answer on the scenario where he thinks Flavius is scum and doesn't elaborate on any of those people. His entire answer seems to bumble around like he doesn't actually care about who might be scum team and I find it highly disconcerting. He seemed pretty superficial the first time I went back to reread him but this is just awful.

et:
Honesty time. This is the first person I don't think I was fully expecting to answer my questions. He has a decent handful of posts but they're pretty easy to miss. So first the question about Neph and the question about lurkers, I asked them at the opposite ends of each other but I really meant them hand in hand. I was thinking more along the lines of "why not vote for Neph" since he said the basis was whether the vote was changeable and if he wasn't he'd vote a lurker. Neph wasn't a very talkative player though, so I don't get how his voting Neph would be incompatible? He then goes super hard on bozo and says his thinking bozo might be scum is part of why he defended people. Odd behavior but I'd say a lot of it is not particularly indicative.

Balki Bartokomous:
I made a joke to start the section on him and he took it seriously lol
I talked to him a bit about his stuff during D1 already but
The biggest aspect was his Durga read. He alludes to it a few times but isn't exactly clear on it. When he starts to get explicit on it that he thinks she's scum I pick up on it but then he hedges it and she goes to null for him. It almost feels like he's second guessing it.

FlaviusAetius:
He's the one I asked the most questions. He answered all of them in a huge post in the last 10 minutes of EOD. This detail itself feels like a red flag because a) he feels desperate, and b) making such a big post so late in the day is pretty distracting. It either beckons everyone to read it in the middle of arguing over the lynch, or it is meant to be skipped over. But anyway, even though he had just had a conversation with Squigs where Flavius learned his notion of "The Dude" was not entirely true, he admits to tunneling and says he'll keep doing it.
The last few question are the most telling, I think. Particularly 2 of them where there's an insinuated relationship between him and Squigs. One where he presumes he and Squigs are on the same page and looking to achieve the same goals, but it's very clear he's not reading what Squigs is actually saying. He's mentioned a few times where he and Squigs talked about how lists are helpful, but Squigs was NEVER in that conversation and was firmly against the Flavius list. He also suggested Squigs wanted people to do gut reads, Squigs never said anything like that either. He's also ducking the question about why he's been consistently defending the actions of Squigs. Where is he getting the basis of his townread of Squigs? Why does he refure to answer my question?

dargorygel:
He changes his vote from Moscow back to Flavius when I say it's strange, but he doesn't address me saying his original vote for Flavius was abrupt. Feels like he skipped the actual text and went straight to the questions

connorcompton:
Calls me dramatized and inflating unimportant speech, but I'd counter that I cut out all the non-essential speech.
So here's an interesting detail I found on reread. He and Nepthys both posted partial reads list, and both gave the exact same read for Flavius "I don't know" and when I asked them both why they said "he was a big poster so I felt I had to" and while this is most likely a coincidence I still think that not cutting him from the reads list is still odd considering how few people made it into the list. Especially how late connor put up the list and how many other people were decently big posters and didn't make it in like Tom or Durga. The other explanations are pretty clear though and this one thing I noted here is probably not alignment indicative.

Carl Tuckerson:
His answer is really long and intricate. He seems to really care about the game and tries to present himself as clearly as possible with as much detail as possible. If this guy's not town I'll eat a fucking horse.

Percy Williams:
He feels I misinterpreted, but perhaps a sign that he should be a bit more clear on his opinions and what he says. His strategy of POE by looking for townies seems like it could be justified late game, but I take it he won't be the most helpful early game.

Nephthys:
I spelled his name wrong in the original post but he never picked it up. He says his "scum are controlling the thread" post didn't mean much because that'll happen in early game anyway, but the original post sounded ominous like we were supposed to look for something. So if it didn't mean much I don't see why he posted it. I guess his style of reads makes sense except that he stopped doing it. We only have up to page 20 so him going from "Prado could be scum" to "Prado lives today" at EOD comes off as cryptic. Also the only person in both of his reads lists is Carl but the read goes entirely unchanged so it's odd, but he doesn't really give a real answer as to why he felt the need to do that.

MoscowFleet:
The first person who has yet to answer any of my questions. Can't exactly analyze 4 posts in depth, especially when only 2 of them are serious and they're both really short.

Durga:
Ignored my questions
Very active, very annoyed with everyone. She's pretty good at focusing her attention on the things she regards as important and chasing her scum reads. Some people are criticizing her for not explaining her reads but I get the impression that she's genuine in her views.

teacon7:
Defensive
He treats all of my questions like attacks. He says his questions were all real and about information or they were rhetorical and intended to drive home points, but really a decent amount were also jokes. Which were neither. He thinks me pointing out his continuously bringing up M1007 and directing people to read it is an attack and that he's just "salty about the loss" and presumes I think meta is useful. (side note: I'm generally of the opinion that how people behaved in previous games shouldn't be treated as an indicator for the current game)
He doubles down on treating an emoji as scum indicative, namely because of what emoji it was. He's assuming if someone doesn't know how to vote they shouldn't know how to use emojis and I think this is the most absurd logic I've read all game. He's reaching in his justification of someone as scum.

ND:
Seems like an open book, and pretty genuine overall. He's not holding anything back.

xorxes:
Hasn't answered yet but promises to. Squigs had also asked him for reads that he admitted he hadn't done yet either. His participation is very limited. He feels very hollow, and there isn't really much to read or analyze.

EspressoPatronum:
Hasn't explicitly answered my questions directly to me but the answer to the first of my questions is pretty clear based on things he said after I posted it. He still scum reads Chippe and still town reads teacon. Regarding Chippe, I think his unfaltering and unchanging approach is super tunnely, and he seems to be basing his views of a decent few other people on it, like Durga who he goes to bat for in defense against Chippe posts. Though what I find truly troubling is his read on teacon. When he sees teacon coming under fire, the ONLY reason he gives in his defense is that it seems like how a town teacon played in the last game, and now he's hard reading teacon as town here too. It feels like he's trying to make excuses for somebody else's play.

ChippeRock:
I disagree with almost everything he says, but I just really can't see a world where scum plays this way. He's very forthcoming and prepared to share his opinions, no matter who thinks those are poorly considered.

Tom Bombadil:
Didn't ask him questions. Cryptic, but in a good way. Calm and considerate, critical when he needs to be.

rdrivera2005:
Didn't answer me. Cryptic in a bad way. He said he has a gut feeling on Fox and seems to be sticking to it but still won't explain it.

damo666:
NONPARTICIPATORY

[CruaaderReynauld]:
My FINALE post explains this one pretty well I believe. If there's a replacement I'll probably not get to use my second criterion on him

TOWN:
Carl
Durga
ND
Chippe
Tom

SCUM:
Squigs
Fox
Flavius
Nephthys
teacon
Espresso
rdrivera
Cruaader

[Squigs44]

TrPrado, you're weird.

I think I like it.

[et]

＠Squig
Why you voted Neph and change vote to boz?
You thought flav as scum, didn't you?

[Nephthys]

We up to page 40 bois

Up to page 30 was boring

Then shizz gets spicy
Et sus
Balki sus
Durga good
Liking Percy
Looking into Rdr

[Nephthys]

Perhaps I'll even be up to date by the end of the weekend

[et]

We up to page 40 bois

Up to page 30 was boring

Then shizz gets spicy
Et sus
Balki sus
Durga good
Liking Percy
Looking into Rdr

Could you tell me why?

[Carl Tuckerson]

We up to page 40 bois

Up to page 30 was boring

Then shizz gets spicy
Et sus
Balki sus
Durga good
Liking Percy
Looking into Rdr

Could you tell me why?

Ain't nothin but a heartache

[Nephthys]

We up to page 40 bois

Up to page 30 was boring

Then shizz gets spicy
Et sus
Balki sus
Durga good
Liking Percy
Looking into Rdr

Could you tell me why?

I disliked the conclusions you made from the evidence you had. Yes this is not much of an explanation but I am bad at writing cases and have tunneled in the last two games so am keeping this all deliberately brief

[et]

We up to page 40 bois

Up to page 30 was boring

Then shizz gets spicy
Et sus
Balki sus
Durga good
Liking Percy
Looking into Rdr

Could you tell me why?

I disliked the conclusions you made from the evidence you had. Yes this is not much of an explanation but I am bad at writing cases and have tunneled in the last two games so am keeping this all deliberately brief

What is 'evidence'?
The reason to vote boz?
Or I talked about you?
If you said I didn't vote you when Durga voted you,
I was focused on boz then.