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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1821 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:17 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:16 am
BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:14 am
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I was never against your plan, you nitwit! I still am not!

I'm against rushing deciding the plan from 45 to 21 hours! See the difference? I'm protesting measure twice, cut once.
Proposing* not protesting.

I'm protesting your "what is measure?" attitude
Don’t care. My plan is the most optimal until proven otherwise. Which it wont. So it doesn’t matter how long the night is.
Wow this came off really cocky. Sorry BK. Just mad

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1822 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:18 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:17 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:16 am
BK3K wrote:
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Proposing* not protesting.

I'm protesting your "what is measure?" attitude
Don’t care. My plan is the most optimal until proven otherwise. Which it wont. So it doesn’t matter how long the night is.
Wow this came off really cocky. Sorry BK. Just mad
And I'm sorry for calling you a nitwit lol

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1823 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:19 am

Argument resolution any% speedrun

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1824 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:23 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:19 am
Argument resolution any% speedrun
I'm (supposed to be) prepping for an all day meeting tomorrow, and I'm out of commission for much of the next 21 hours. I really would have preferred the extra time. If it really is the best, it'll hold up after 2 days of analysis, just the same as 1 day. That's why I'm frustrated

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1825 Post by worcej » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:24 am

Do we have an established consensus for VT votes?

I didn’t see it yet. This needs to be established.

My 2cents here is it’s 6-2 and if we scan BK3K again and create 3 clears, because him and sweet are town, it’s pretty much auto.

If we scan BK3K and get a scan of someone and they are opposite, we flip BK3K and either know sweet is scum (and therefor win) or know he is town and the other person recently scanned is scum and it becomes a coin toss going into KiLo.

I think a different parity scan would not benefit us as much as going back to BK3K and possibly getting the 2-3 clears now.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1826 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:24 am
Do we have an established consensus for VT votes?

I didn’t see it yet. This needs to be established.

My 2cents here is it’s 6-2 and if we scan BK3K again and create 3 clears, because him and sweet are town, it’s pretty much auto.

If we scan BK3K and get a scan of someone and they are opposite, we flip BK3K and either know sweet is scum (and therefor win) or know he is town and the other person recently scanned is scum and it becomes a coin toss going into KiLo.

I think a different parity scan would not benefit us as much as going back to BK3K and possibly getting the 2-3 clears now.
Well the chance that the other person scanned is mafia is higher than the chance that sweet and BK are mafia, regardless of my intuition. So yes, we would scan BK and then kill the other if they are not all the same team.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1827 Post by worcej » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am

Meanwhile in the GT…

ghug: I cannot believe we approved this setup and turned the game into the most boring mechanics fest!

Darg: I trusted you ghug… you’re supposed to be the brains of this operation!

Eden: (continues to be absent and doing nothing)

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1828 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:27 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:24 am
Do we have an established consensus for VT votes?

I didn’t see it yet. This needs to be established.

My 2cents here is it’s 6-2 and if we scan BK3K again and create 3 clears, because him and sweet are town, it’s pretty much auto.

If we scan BK3K and get a scan of someone and they are opposite, we flip BK3K and either know sweet is scum (and therefor win) or know he is town and the other person recently scanned is scum and it becomes a coin toss going into KiLo.

I think a different parity scan would not benefit us as much as going back to BK3K and possibly getting the 2-3 clears now.
Well the chance that the other person scanned is mafia is higher than the chance that sweet and BK are mafia, regardless of my intuition. So yes, we would scan BK and then kill the other if they are not all the same team.
going to put my vote in for BK right now. I will be very active tmrw so I can change based on whatever.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1829 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:27 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am
Meanwhile in the GT…

ghug: I cannot believe we approved this setup and turned the game into the most boring mechanics fest!

Darg: I trusted you ghug… you’re supposed to be the brains of this operation!

Eden: (continues to be absent and doing nothing)
This game is more interesting when it has baseless accusations and conspiracies.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1830 Post by worcej » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:28 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:24 am
Do we have an established consensus for VT votes?

I didn’t see it yet. This needs to be established.

My 2cents here is it’s 6-2 and if we scan BK3K again and create 3 clears, because him and sweet are town, it’s pretty much auto.

If we scan BK3K and get a scan of someone and they are opposite, we flip BK3K and either know sweet is scum (and therefor win) or know he is town and the other person recently scanned is scum and it becomes a coin toss going into KiLo.

I think a different parity scan would not benefit us as much as going back to BK3K and possibly getting the 2-3 clears now.
Well the chance that the other person scanned is mafia is higher than the chance that sweet and BK are mafia, regardless of my intuition. So yes, we would scan BK and then kill the other if they are not all the same team.
Yes, fair modification here. Kill the recent scan to confirm alignment of 2. If they are town, we win because they are scum and we have the votes to kill them.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1831 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:30 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:28 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:24 am
Do we have an established consensus for VT votes?

I didn’t see it yet. This needs to be established.

My 2cents here is it’s 6-2 and if we scan BK3K again and create 3 clears, because him and sweet are town, it’s pretty much auto.

If we scan BK3K and get a scan of someone and they are opposite, we flip BK3K and either know sweet is scum (and therefor win) or know he is town and the other person recently scanned is scum and it becomes a coin toss going into KiLo.

I think a different parity scan would not benefit us as much as going back to BK3K and possibly getting the 2-3 clears now.
Well the chance that the other person scanned is mafia is higher than the chance that sweet and BK are mafia, regardless of my intuition. So yes, we would scan BK and then kill the other if they are not all the same team.
Yes, fair modification here. Kill the recent scan to confirm alignment of 2. If they are town, we win because they are scum and we have the votes to kill them.
Thanks for coming to the party worcej. Now consider any edge cases before we blow ourselves up by accident. There is discussion on prior pages, if you ignore the yelling

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1832 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:31 am

BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:30 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:28 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:26 am


Well the chance that the other person scanned is mafia is higher than the chance that sweet and BK are mafia, regardless of my intuition. So yes, we would scan BK and then kill the other if they are not all the same team.
Yes, fair modification here. Kill the recent scan to confirm alignment of 2. If they are town, we win because they are scum and we have the votes to kill them.
Thanks for coming to the party worcej. Now consider any edge cases before we blow ourselves up by accident. There is discussion on prior pages, if you ignore the yelling
I now realize that the NK is probably going to be BK if he isn’t scum.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1833 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:33 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:31 am
BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:30 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:28 am
Yes, fair modification here. Kill the recent scan to confirm alignment of 2. If they are town, we win because they are scum and we have the votes to kill them.
Thanks for coming to the party worcej. Now consider any edge cases before we blow ourselves up by accident. There is discussion on prior pages, if you ignore the yelling
I now realize that the NK is probably going to be BK if he isn’t scum.
Oh you realize something after that fiasco?

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1834 Post by Chaqa » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:35 am

Will still has not explained his plan nor why he thinks I'm opposed to it.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1835 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:35 am

BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:33 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:31 am
BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:30 am


Thanks for coming to the party worcej. Now consider any edge cases before we blow ourselves up by accident. There is discussion on prior pages, if you ignore the yelling
I now realize that the NK is probably going to be BK if he isn’t scum.
Oh you realize something after that fiasco?
I do.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1836 Post by JustAGuyNamedWill » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:35 am

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:35 am
Will still has not explained his plan nor why he thinks I'm opposed to it.
Plan is a few pages back.

I just assumed that calling me scummy in your head discredited my plan as something that mafia could get away with

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1837 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:36 am

JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:35 am
BK3K wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:33 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:31 am


I now realize that the NK is probably going to be BK if he isn’t scum.
Oh you realize something after that fiasco?
I do.
I'm logging off for now. I cannot handle this lmao

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1838 Post by worcej » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:38 am

I think the vote for BK3K is the most optimum.

Let’s say we get another parity - use rdr and myself for an example. We learn that me and him are on a team while sweet and BK3K are on a team too. This doesn’t result in clear path forward, it just eliminates pairs and creates no clears. The best case is we get another pair of players that are opposite alignment - we’re more likely to get the rdr and me situation though…

We’re at a point where getting clears is immensely valuable and can auto this game.

Mathing again - next phase is 5-2…

If we “miss” and the scanned person is killed and then we know BK3K and sweet are scum - it’s 3-2 the next vote and we auto-win.

If we “hit” and the scanned person is scum, it comes down to 5-1 with 2 clears and possibly more scans to keep the chain going.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1839 Post by worcej » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:41 am

heartthrob24909 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:54 am
Worcej and Chaqa both cast end votes while implying that they had not read recent thread happenings. They set up an opportunity for ghug to seal the day.
worcej wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:57 pm
##vote ghug
##end

Also good with a heart night vote.

And to clarify - this means BK3K and Sweet are opposite alignments?
^Would town still not know how to read the investigation results?
Chaqa wrote:
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Getting caught up but obviously
##Vote ghug
##END
FWIW, it isn’t scummy to end the phase on a confirmed scum. Keep the momentum moving forward.

If the conversation you find important stops, that’s your fault not mine.

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Re: M1027: Community - Game Thread

#1840 Post by BK3K » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:41 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:38 am
I think the vote for BK3K is the most optimum.

Let’s say we get another parity - use rdr and myself for an example. We learn that me and him are on a team while sweet and BK3K are on a team too. This doesn’t result in clear path forward, it just eliminates pairs and creates no clears. The best case is we get another pair of players that are opposite alignment - we’re more likely to get the rdr and me situation though…

We’re at a point where getting clears is immensely valuable and can auto this game.

Mathing again - next phase is 5-2…

If we “miss” and the scanned person is killed and then we know BK3K and sweet are scum - it’s 3-2 the next vote and we auto-win.

If we “hit” and the scanned person is scum, it comes down to 5-1 with 2 clears and possibly more scans to keep the chain going.
Again. Welcome to the party. Where were you before the hammer?

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