MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[rdrivera2005]

It's painful to say this, but Bona isn't the kill today. We don't kill uncced PR claims if there is a chance the claim is true, even if small. And it will resolve one way orc another.

I think Vig shooting today is a good idea, either the lead wagon at 24h mark or a Vig choice. Another shoot at EON is good only if the first hit Mafia. If not we need to give time to real doc CC tomorrow and Vig solve the problem.

##vote Chaqa - How it's a town reaction to this ask for Vig to shoot Bona?

Tem also believed Bona's claim too easily, I can't see any town not being at least a bit suspicious of Bona's claim.

[BunnyGo]

damn...

rdr is right.

##vote damo

OK, rdr, hit me with more knowledge.

[damo666]

tl;dr:

Flip Bonatogether tomorrow, and if he is scum, flip BunnyGo.

If Bonatogether dies and is not scum, flip Chaqa or JustWill.

Sif Jamie had watched anyone but Sweet and seen Bona visit he would have considered doc and not advocated a kill. So he must have watched Sweet and seen Bona visit but have the slight concern Bona was roleblocked doc.

So, Bona is either scum or Roleblocked doc who is lying about N1 visit. But why like?

Bona is probably scum who planned to claim doc and use the N1 claim to explain N3 survival.

However as Bona remains unCCd (real doc do NOT claim) there is no point killing him yet but either vote or vig since if he is doc he won't survive 2 nights.

Vig (Will) should kill their best guess and then we reassess after the reveal . The vote should not influence the kill ( or kill off top wagon).

Removing rdr from my scumpool.

##vote heart

[damo666]

damn...

rdr is right.

##vote damo

OK, rdr, hit me with more knowledge.

But you are wrong.

[BunnyGo]

tl;dr:

Flip Bonatogether tomorrow, and if he is scum, flip BunnyGo.

If Bonatogether dies and is not scum, flip Chaqa or JustWill.

Sif Jamie had watched anyone but Sweet and seen Bona visit he would have considered doc and not advocated a kill. So he must have watched Sweet and seen Bona visit but have the slight concern Bona was roleblocked doc.

So, Bona is either scum or Roleblocked doc who is lying about N1 visit. But why like?

Bona is probably scum who planned to claim doc and use the N1 claim to explain N3 survival.

However as Bona remains unCCd (real doc do NOT claim) there is no point killing him yet but either vote or vig since if he is doc he won't survive 2 nights.

Vig (Will) should kill their best guess and then we reassess after the reveal . The vote should not influence the kill ( or kill off top wagon).

Removing rdr from my scumpool.

##vote heart

wtf is wrong with you this game?

[BunnyGo]

To be clear @will or anyone else: don't respond to damo trying to out you.

[BunnyGo]

Also, if doc is RB'd does the doc "go" anywhere?

##CALL GM if doctor is RB'd can they be seen going anywhere?

[BunnyGo]

##unvote

damo has me going in circles

[BunnyGo]

OK...if bona is scum, then that means chaqa's "why not both" post was him open chaqa-ing on page 8.

##vote chaqa

[damo666]

tl;dr:

Flip Bonatogether tomorrow, and if he is scum, flip BunnyGo.

If Bonatogether dies and is not scum, flip Chaqa or JustWill.

Sif Jamie had watched anyone but Sweet and seen Bona visit he would have considered doc and not advocated a kill. So he must have watched Sweet and seen Bona visit but have the slight concern Bona was roleblocked doc.

So, Bona is either scum or Roleblocked doc who is lying about N1 visit. But why like?

Bona is probably scum who planned to claim doc and use the N1 claim to explain N3 survival.

However as Bona remains unCCd (real doc do NOT claim) there is no point killing him yet but either vote or vig since if he is doc he won't survive 2 nights.

Vig (Will) should kill their best guess and then we reassess after the reveal . The vote should not influence the kill ( or kill off top wagon).

Removing rdr from my scumpool.

##vote heart

wtf is wrong with you this game?

What do you mean? Scum can read. Will all but outed himself. (Except I'm the vig). (Not).

[BunnyGo]

Sif Jamie had watched anyone but Sweet and seen Bona visit he would have considered doc and not advocated a kill. So he must have watched Sweet and seen Bona visit but have the slight concern Bona was roleblocked doc.

So, Bona is either scum or Roleblocked doc who is lying about N1 visit. But why like?

Bona is probably scum who planned to claim doc and use the N1 claim to explain N3 survival.

However as Bona remains unCCd (real doc do NOT claim) there is no point killing him yet but either vote or vig since if he is doc he won't survive 2 nights.

Vig (Will) should kill their best guess and then we reassess after the reveal . The vote should not influence the kill ( or kill off top wagon).

Removing rdr from my scumpool.

##vote heart

wtf is wrong with you this game?

What do you mean? Scum can read. Will all but outed himself. (Except I'm the vig). (Not).

ok...there was more, but I'm not gonna talk about it.

[damo666]

OK...if bona is scum, then that means chaqa's "why not both" post was him open chaqa-ing on page 8.

##vote chaqa

Please quote. Cannot find.

[BunnyGo]

I think ND rolled Mafia again.

I think Sweetie-pie rolled Mafia again.

@damo

[worcej]

It's painful to say this, but Bona isn't the kill today. We don't kill uncced PR claims if there is a chance the claim is true, even if small. And it will resolve one way orc another.

I think Vig shooting today is a good idea, either the lead wagon at 24h mark or a Vig choice. Another shoot at EON is good only if the first hit Mafia. If not we need to give time to real doc CC tomorrow and Vig solve the problem.

##vote Chaqa - How it's a town reaction to this ask for Vig to shoot Bona?

Tem also believed Bona's claim too easily, I can't see any town not being at least a bit suspicious of Bona's claim.

This is the way.

##vote Chaqa

[worcej]

To be clear - rdr and damo’s analysis is pretty much my own and I don’t need to spew the same stuff.

I believe the most likely scenario is Bona is scum being caught by Jamie on N1 but without a CC, we cannot just kill him because there are situations where he is the actual doctor.

[BunnyGo]

To be clear - rdr and damo’s analysis is pretty much my own and I don’t need to spew the same stuff.

I believe the most likely scenario is Bona is scum being caught by Jamie on N1 but without a CC, we cannot just kill him because there are situations where he is the actual doctor.

*yawn*

[BunnyGo]

To be clear - rdr and damo’s analysis is pretty much my own and I don’t need to spew the same stuff.

I believe the most likely scenario is Bona is scum being caught by Jamie on N1 but without a CC, we cannot just kill him because there are situations where he is the actual doctor.

*yawn*

I don’t think you stayed in a holiday inn express. Their commercials say you’d be focused and awake.

[Chaqa]

My analysis:

People who clearly expressed a reason (or reasons) for voting Hamilton, and whose reason(s), at face value, made some sense, are as follows:

Jamiet99uk
BunnyGo
Temasek22
Bozo

People whose reason for voting Hamilton was unclear, or was not stated at all:

Ghug
JustAGuyNamedWill
Chaqa
Heartthrob

A person who did state a reason for voting Hamilton, but whose vote move looks extremely suspect:

Bonatogether.

Further notes:

(1) Of the 7 people who ended up on Hamilton at EoD:

Myself, Bunny, and JustWill, had voted Hamilton in the first 24 hours.
Chaqa, Bonatogether, Bozo and Heartthrob only voted Hamilton towards the end of the day.

(2) Only Ghug and Temasek voted Hamilton early, and then moved away, not to return to the wagon.

(3) Only Damo, Macca, Rdr and Worcej did not vote for Hamilton at all in D2.

This was posted 7 hours before EOD.

Bona ain't scum.

Disagree - Bona clearly is getting fingered by Jamie here.

This is certainly a post of all time.

[Temasek22]

It's painful to say this, but Bona isn't the kill today. We don't kill uncced PR claims if there is a chance the claim is true, even if small. And it will resolve one way orc another.

I think Vig shooting today is a good idea, either the lead wagon at 24h mark or a Vig choice. Another shoot at EON is good only if the first hit Mafia. If not we need to give time to real doc CC tomorrow and Vig solve the problem.

##vote Chaqa - How it's a town reaction to this ask for Vig to shoot Bona?

Tem also believed Bona's claim too easily, I can't see any town not being at least a bit suspicious of Bona's claim.

I'm not entirely unsuspicious but this guy was a fairly strong townread earlier on in the game for me and he is yet to be CCed. Jamie's EoN speech is a very valid reason to doubt him, but we are yet to know what he actually watched.

[heartthrob24909]

I’m a bit hesitant to kill. Call it newb town, but I am very adverse to killing without absolute necessity. I’d rather not Vig kill without reason to.

That's been a bit clear.

But what do you think of the maths?

Depends if we hit a mafia. If we don’t, we probably should try again

This is a lazy answer