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Hey, having a townclear in this situation might be very beneficial.
You were scumread as soon as you joined because you made up evidence to scumread me... Town doesn't give fake reasons for reads.
Hmm. Amusing. I was reading her iso. Guess I’m back to that.
Incorrect. I can solve the game perfectly and lose if I don’t seem towny.kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:03 pmYou were scumread as soon as you joined because you made up evidence to scumread me... Town doesn't give fake reasons for reads.
I really don't like this "let me show I'm town" tactic over "let me try to solve the game." If you're town, you surviving doesn't necessarily get us the win. You also have to vote for the right person, and convince the other townie to vote for the right person.
Your goal appears to be survival. ##vote BunnyGo
Excuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"
Hmm. So why make your offer? To push him?kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:05 pmExcuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"
What don't you understand about that?
He is not his tonal self. And he is drinking so might be overconfident here.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:06 pmHmm. So why make your offer? To push him?kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:05 pmExcuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"
What don't you understand about that?
Uh it wasn't a real offer. It was my way of saying that ending would probably be the least-towny things someone could do here.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:06 pmHmm. So why make your offer? To push him?kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:05 pmExcuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"
What don't you understand about that?
Haven’t you been scum once? Or am I confusing you with kitsune?kgray wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 3:02 amI have never been scum in forum mafia.xorxes wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 1:21 amOK, just caught up. In Tom vs kgray, kgray is the clear winner. She seems to be in her town range. I think she was scum only once and if I remember correctly she would avoid having an opinion on things.
Just one thing: I was not townreading damo last game, I was mostly ignoring him, which I tend to do in the early game because I give him the benefit of the doubt. I had him as my third choice for scum when I was killed, and that was completely Vecna's fault.
I don't think I have enough to make a read on him for now, but he did vote for me last game as scum, so I'm wary now.
And fine, but I'm pretty sure you said you have a "soft spot" for him, and now you're saying you give him the benefit of the doubt. I think damo would notice that and therefore scum!damo wouldn't try to get you mislynched D1. The argument that he went in reverse alphabetical order specifically to target you when bozo (who is also very good as town) would be first if he went in normal alphabetical order just doesn't hold up, imo.
I don't see what you're seeing. What tone does Vecna normally have and why doesn't he have it here?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:07 pmHe is not his tonal self. And he is drinking so might be overconfident here.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:06 pmHmm. So why make your offer? To push him?kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:05 pm
Excuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"
What don't you understand about that?
Cool. You and I need some in between game time to understand each other. ##unvote (yes I know it doesn’t count mechanically but symbolically)kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:07 pmUh it wasn't a real offer. It was my way of saying that ending would probably be the least-towny things someone could do here.BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:06 pmHmm. So why make your offer? To push him?kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:05 pm
Excuse me? Why in the hell would town vote end in 2-1? If Vecna is town he shouldn't even consider voting end now, because from his POV I could be scum and win. So duh, town!Vecna wouldn't vote end just to "loose you the game no matter what"
What don't you understand about that?
Serious question Bunny: Have you read the entire game?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:08 pmHaven’t you been scum once? Or am I confusing you with kitsune?kgray wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 3:02 amI have never been scum in forum mafia.xorxes wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 1:21 amOK, just caught up. In Tom vs kgray, kgray is the clear winner. She seems to be in her town range. I think she was scum only once and if I remember correctly she would avoid having an opinion on things.
Just one thing: I was not townreading damo last game, I was mostly ignoring him, which I tend to do in the early game because I give him the benefit of the doubt. I had him as my third choice for scum when I was killed, and that was completely Vecna's fault.
I don't think I have enough to make a read on him for now, but he did vote for me last game as scum, so I'm wary now.
And fine, but I'm pretty sure you said you have a "soft spot" for him, and now you're saying you give him the benefit of the doubt. I think damo would notice that and therefore scum!damo wouldn't try to get you mislynched D1. The argument that he went in reverse alphabetical order specifically to target you when bozo (who is also very good as town) would be first if he went in normal alphabetical order just doesn't hold up, imo.
No.kgray wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:10 pmSerious question Bunny: Have you read the entire game?BunnyGo wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 6:08 pmHaven’t you been scum once? Or am I confusing you with kitsune?kgray wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 3:02 am
I have never been scum in forum mafia.
And fine, but I'm pretty sure you said you have a "soft spot" for him, and now you're saying you give him the benefit of the doubt. I think damo would notice that and therefore scum!damo wouldn't try to get you mislynched D1. The argument that he went in reverse alphabetical order specifically to target you when bozo (who is also very good as town) would be first if he went in normal alphabetical order just doesn't hold up, imo.
Okay. No, I've never been scum. Xorxes misremembered that and because he based a read off of something that didn't actually happen, it was a big part of why he took so much heat - mostly from bozo and I.