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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1821 Post by Vaporwave » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:38 pm
A heroine appears on the scene

I'm glad I trusted you, Kit ;)
Maybe she's making the whole thing up and she is just listing all her fellow scum fake roles, have you considered that? :shock:
that would be a brilliant play :-D

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1822 Post by Temasek22 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:43 pm

Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:13 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:06 pm
So nobody was informed that they were swapped, correct? So no Driver or not used. That means damo was targetted directly.
I saw no indication someone was swapped.

I did see someone else successfully targeted (hence my certainty on him not being a Magnet).

Janitor doesn't find out via PM who they wiped, which is frustrating. I was SO sure I'd catch them fake claiming :lol:
Just wondering, do you receive the PMs sent to or sent by the GMs? Or both?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1823 Post by Temasek22 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:44 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:38 pm
A heroine appears on the scene

I'm glad I trusted you, Kit ;)
Maybe she's making the whole thing up and she is just listing all her fellow scum fake roles, have you considered that? :shock:
Holy shiiiiiii-

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1824 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:36 pm


Out of those two choices I choose literate.
And the fact that you're willing to give up an ID to the Assassin is scum points in my view.

That and your belligerent attitude towards someone who was essentially agreeing with you strikes of trying to generate false conflict.

##Vote BunnyGo

To think, after last game I thought you were a townie I could try and give crumbs to.
Oh? Have I missed your way too subtle crumbs that are totally obvious? I’ll have to go iso you again later.

In the meantime think about this: I was a belligerent asshole last game too when I wanted to be. You were just never the target of my ire. But your OMGUS play is very unlike you.
Agreed on this... you pushed my buttons and I reacted. My frustration with you was a bit higher during this exchange due to my attempts to coordinate/communicate. Que será, será
Moved my vote to be in align with mon capitan... starting fresh with you with a reset of my emotional state.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1825 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 pm

Is there a reason kit shouldn’t share what the item thief gave out?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1826 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:48 pm

TrPrado wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:47 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:36 pm


Out of those two choices I choose literate.
And the fact that you're willing to give up an ID to the Assassin is scum points in my view.

That and your belligerent attitude towards someone who was essentially agreeing with you strikes of trying to generate false conflict.

##Vote BunnyGo

To think, after last game I thought you were a townie I could try and give crumbs to.
Why would scum try to generate conflict that they are at the heart of?
Interesting point. I'd think the only way they'd do this is if they were sure they could take their opponent down. Regardless, my vote was a 'OMUNGUS' or whatever and I've thought better of it. More on my vote switch in a second.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1827 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:53 pm

Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:37 pm
Okay, I have thought about it and I feel that under the circumstances it's more useful to Town for me to soft claim than to hoard my information and try to ineptly feed it out through excuses and manufactured reasoning.

Besides, that tends to read as scummy - and if I DO release this now, it should strongly townlean me and give only the Assassin (maybe) any reason to kill me early. And again only if we're very unlucky.

So: I soft claim as the Interceptor, Conspiracy Charlie.

https://imgflip.com/i/3f3c71

Would anyone like to counter-claim before I go on?
As a complete aside from Kitsunes information... socially, what are the implications between soft claim and hard claim of a PR?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1828 Post by Temasek22 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:54 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:36 pm


Out of those two choices I choose literate.
And the fact that you're willing to give up an ID to the Assassin is scum points in my view.

That and your belligerent attitude towards someone who was essentially agreeing with you strikes of trying to generate false conflict.

##Vote BunnyGo

To think, after last game I thought you were a townie I could try and give crumbs to.
Oh? Have I missed your way too subtle crumbs that are totally obvious? I’ll have to go iso you again later.

In the meantime think about this: I was a belligerent asshole last game too when I wanted to be. You were just never the target of my ire. But your OMGUS play is very unlike you.
Actually, I recall him OMGUSsing last game too. Didn't he?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1829 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:54 pm

KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 pm


And the fact that you're willing to give up an ID to the Assassin is scum points in my view.

That and your belligerent attitude towards someone who was essentially agreeing with you strikes of trying to generate false conflict.

##Vote BunnyGo

To think, after last game I thought you were a townie I could try and give crumbs to.
Oh? Have I missed your way too subtle crumbs that are totally obvious? I’ll have to go iso you again later.

In the meantime think about this: I was a belligerent asshole last game too when I wanted to be. You were just never the target of my ire. But your OMGUS play is very unlike you.
Agreed on this... you pushed my buttons and I reacted. My frustration with you was a bit higher during this exchange due to my attempts to coordinate/communicate. Que será, será
Moved my vote to be in align with mon capitan... starting fresh with you with a reset of my emotional state.
You voting me to be in align with anyone is a huge scumtell to me.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1830 Post by xorxes » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:55 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 pm
Is there a reason kit shouldn’t share what the item thief gave out?
To keep scum guessing what they should be concerned about. Assuming that the Item went to a townie and not to scum.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1831 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:59 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:38 pm
A heroine appears on the scene

I'm glad I trusted you, Kit ;)
Maybe she's making the whole thing up and she is just listing all her fellow scum fake roles, have you considered that? :shock:
I believe Kit and she probably know I am town if she can connect things (and I think she can quite easily).

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1832 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:05 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:54 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:45 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:24 pm


Oh? Have I missed your way too subtle crumbs that are totally obvious? I’ll have to go iso you again later.

In the meantime think about this: I was a belligerent asshole last game too when I wanted to be. You were just never the target of my ire. But your OMGUS play is very unlike you.
Agreed on this... you pushed my buttons and I reacted. My frustration with you was a bit higher during this exchange due to my attempts to coordinate/communicate. Que será, será
Moved my vote to be in align with mon capitan... starting fresh with you with a reset of my emotional state.
You voting me to be in align with anyone is a huge scumtell to me.
It's also inconsistent with my plan to go out on my own this time instead of jumping on wagons. However, it was Flav's request, who is the only one I trust. He gave these options; xorxes, Ezio, bozo and rdrivera

In my spreadsheet (which is not a full ISO);
I've got two sections... my weights, and the crowd claims.
You're the only one of these four that are negative in both, although Ezio has a more negative score in the crowd score, when I combine the weights you pull out 'ahead' on scum.

I need to do a complete ISO for D2, which I'll try and get done tomorrow, but I intend to limit my choices to the four listed.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1833 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:06 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:59 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm
Vaporwave wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:38 pm
A heroine appears on the scene

I'm glad I trusted you, Kit ;)
Maybe she's making the whole thing up and she is just listing all her fellow scum fake roles, have you considered that? :shock:
I believe Kit and she probably know I am town if she can connect things (and I think she can quite easily).
I'm in the same boat.

Kit - did you receive just the PMs, or are the authors of the PMs attached?
If the later, and you're telling the truth, then you know exactly who has a night power and used it?

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1834 Post by Kitsune » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:07 pm

Temasek22 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:43 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:13 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:06 pm
So nobody was informed that they were swapped, correct? So no Driver or not used. That means damo was targetted directly.
I saw no indication someone was swapped.

I did see someone else successfully targeted (hence my certainty on him not being a Magnet).

Janitor doesn't find out via PM who they wiped, which is frustrating. I was SO sure I'd catch them fake claiming :lol:
Just wondering, do you receive the PMs sent to or sent by the GMs? Or both?
I decline to answer that question 8-)

Or rather, I’ll point to the role descriptions like our dear GMs.

Full information will go out in graveyard chat if I’m killed, so again don’t bother bringing me back. Bring back someone more useful who will have my information.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1835 Post by Kitsune » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:08 pm

KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:06 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:59 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:42 pm


Maybe she's making the whole thing up and she is just listing all her fellow scum fake roles, have you considered that? :shock:
I believe Kit and she probably know I am town if she can connect things (and I think she can quite easily).
I'm in the same boat.

Kit - did you receive just the PMs, or are the authors of the PMs attached?
If the later, and you're telling the truth, then you know exactly who has a night power and used it?
I do not have the authors of the PMs, only the content.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1836 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:09 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 pm
Is there a reason kit shouldn’t share what the item thief gave out?
Or quite frankly the results of all of the PMs without revealing the authors. I'm sure there was a lot of information in those. Information that could be confirmed by PRs.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1837 Post by Temasek22 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:10 pm

KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:53 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:37 pm
Okay, I have thought about it and I feel that under the circumstances it's more useful to Town for me to soft claim than to hoard my information and try to ineptly feed it out through excuses and manufactured reasoning.

Besides, that tends to read as scummy - and if I DO release this now, it should strongly townlean me and give only the Assassin (maybe) any reason to kill me early. And again only if we're very unlucky.

So: I soft claim as the Interceptor, Conspiracy Charlie.

https://imgflip.com/i/3f3c71

Would anyone like to counter-claim before I go on?
As a complete aside from Kitsunes information... socially, what are the implications between soft claim and hard claim of a PR?
Soft claim can be retracted, hard claim cannot

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1838 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:10 pm

KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:09 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 pm
Is there a reason kit shouldn’t share what the item thief gave out?
Or quite frankly the results of all of the PMs without revealing the authors. I'm sure there was a lot of information in those. Information that could be confirmed by PRs.
Since your power was one shot you could essentially get town-cleared by a subset of us by listing all the information.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1839 Post by KalelChase » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:10 pm

Temasek22 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:10 pm
KalelChase wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:53 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:37 pm
Okay, I have thought about it and I feel that under the circumstances it's more useful to Town for me to soft claim than to hoard my information and try to ineptly feed it out through excuses and manufactured reasoning.

Besides, that tends to read as scummy - and if I DO release this now, it should strongly townlean me and give only the Assassin (maybe) any reason to kill me early. And again only if we're very unlucky.

So: I soft claim as the Interceptor, Conspiracy Charlie.

https://imgflip.com/i/3f3c71

Would anyone like to counter-claim before I go on?
As a complete aside from Kitsunes information... socially, what are the implications between soft claim and hard claim of a PR?
Soft claim can be retracted, hard claim cannot
Thank you.

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Re: M50 Apocalypse Meme Redux

#1840 Post by Temasek22 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:11 pm

Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:07 pm
Temasek22 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:43 pm
Kitsune wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:13 pm


I saw no indication someone was swapped.

I did see someone else successfully targeted (hence my certainty on him not being a Magnet).

Janitor doesn't find out via PM who they wiped, which is frustrating. I was SO sure I'd catch them fake claiming :lol:
Just wondering, do you receive the PMs sent to or sent by the GMs? Or both?
I decline to answer that question 8-)

Or rather, I’ll point to the role descriptions like our dear GMs.

Full information will go out in graveyard chat if I’m killed, so again don’t bother bringing me back. Bring back someone more useful who will have my information.
Outstanding move :razz: 8-)

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