Mafia 56: Scout Camp

[bozotheclown]

Assuming TRC was a PR, there is a 50% chance he was a FAE or TCG. The scum PR claimants likely intend to claim FAE and TCG, so if the only counter claims are 3 FAEs or 3 TCGs, then the second scum PR is likely in the other, even though there will be only 2 claims. If we get lucky, TRC was not an FAE or TCG, and we will get 3 claims for each. Or, one scum PR claimant could wait to claim last, so that he claims the PR that has not been claimed, because that is obviously the role TRC had.

Don't forget the scoutmaster is believed to be out there so there is a 57% chance thereal was one of doc/joat...if they were a PR.

good point

[bozotheclown]

No.
I think the most reasonable VTs to consider are Damo and Hellenic. I have Donny and Durga in the null camp.

Damo: If Damo rolled scum again getting the mass claim rolling with him claiming VT takes the pressure off while hoping his team in the PR camp can ultimately get the job done.

Hellenic: Again I have my doubts since I was interested in Hellenic having no contact at all with Macca. Hellenic gave a couple of opportunities to Macca to engage him early in the game. Macca chose not to. Hellenic's flip could give some useful information into how Macca was approaching the game.

Do you want to give me an update scum team prediction?

I've grown rather fond of this one.

The one I have recorded or the one with damo and HR?

[summit_fever]

No.
I think the most reasonable VTs to consider are Damo and Hellenic. I have Donny and Durga in the null camp.

Damo: If Damo rolled scum again getting the mass claim rolling with him claiming VT takes the pressure off while hoping his team in the PR camp can ultimately get the job done.

Hellenic: Again I have my doubts since I was interested in Hellenic having no contact at all with Macca. Hellenic gave a couple of opportunities to Macca to engage him early in the game. Macca chose not to. Hellenic's flip could give some useful information into how Macca was approaching the game.

Do you want to give me an update scum team prediction?

I've grown rather fond of this one.

ahh I didn't read the quote you put in. I still feel the same way, but Donny goes from null to top scum read.

[bozotheclown]

Do you want to give me an update scum team prediction?

I've grown rather fond of this one.

ahh I didn't read the quote you put in. I still feel the same way, but Donny goes from null to top scum read.

So who are the 4?

[summit_fever]

I've grown rather fond of this one.

ahh I didn't read the quote you put in. I still feel the same way, but Donny goes from null to top scum read.

So who are the 4?

It's absolutely guessing. 5 of the pr claimants aren't even playing currently.

[summit_fever]

ahh I didn't read the quote you put in. I still feel the same way, but Donny goes from null to top scum read.

So who are the 4?

It's absolutely guessing. 5 of the pr claimants aren't even playing currently.

Hellenic was looking townie to me in that last conversation with xorxes.

I'll go with Donny/Damo/Flash/JF

[TheFlyingBoat]

Got my MacBook Pro repaired in the end, turns out after the first repair, the guy forgot to reconnect the coax cables to the wifi card. Guess it passed their diagnostic because the wifi card was properly seated and connected (apparently that's all their diagnostic checked for wrt to the wifi card) even though it couldn't get an RSSI of better than -90 db, when practically adjacent to the router. Anyways, my laptop is fixed, work is done, here are my thoughts/reads before I take a nice shower and rewatch season 2 of 24.

The list of people who are PRs and VTs
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)
Unknown+Dead: TRC
Mafia+Dead:Macca

Voters on two main bandwagons:
Macca573 (7) xorxes rdrivera2005 bozotheclown Durga summit_fever Hellenic Riot damo666

bozotheclown (6) JF1981 worcej Vecna BobMcBob TheFlyingBoat Chaqa

The duo:
worcej (2) BismarckAlive Macca573

The solo voters on other people:
brainbomb (1) flash2015
flash2015 (1) TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) Donny Dude
damo666 (1) brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) e.m.c^42


The list of people
BismarckAlive - PR claim, seemed good Day 1, mostly silent this turn. Don't like the worcej vote but he is voting for Donny which I do like. Let's say slight town.
BobMcBob - Claims to be in chat with Macca, seemed a little bit scummy at first, now I'm on the fence. Let's say no clue for now.
bozotheclown - I thought he was scum at first based on pure gut but was convinced during a reading of the night args as posted previously that he was town that is further supported by brainbomb's claims to be his buddy and I don't think that was ever refuted and brain bomb claims to have strong town reads on him, so I'll take that at face value and give him a slight town read since he got a town read from someone who I give a medium town read.
brainbomb - Posted all his reads early, posted often, and is in a VT-VT buddy team in his claim. I don't know about the meta calcs of doing so versus not doing so if you are a VT-VT pair, but in the end I trust him on balance and that I get medium town reads from him.
Chaqa/Jamie - Scummy as hell but is also uncounterclaimed PR. We'll see what happens in the night. Still think he is scum team but don't think we should vote for him.
damo666 - Seem to get decent reads from this dude. Last vote on Macca and is currently voting for Donny who I think is scum. Claimed VT. Medium town read.
Donny Dude - Was so confident Chaqa was mafia he voted for him Day 1 solo and stuck with his vote despite him being online at EOD for a very tight vote that barely went in the town's favor. This turn, when we should be voting from the VT pool, he votes for a PR that isn't the PR he had strong scum reads on him. He unvoted Chaqa/Jamie after being told he shouldn't vote for an uncounterclaimed PR and then votes for an unclaimed PR due to lack of activity. This isn't an OMGUS even though it will come across this way. This is either very clearly scum or very clearly dumb.
Durga - No read any particular way based on posting. Claimed VT and voted for Macca. Slight town lean, but very slight.
e.m.c^42 - I think one of worcej and emc is dirty while the other is clean. I think worcej is clean therefore emc is dirty.
flash2015 - Claims to be PR, but I have nothing really to go on in terms of posts. Will see in N2 I guess
Hellenic Riot - A lot of meta claims against him, but idk. Slight scum read I guess if I trust the majority, but I've never played with him. He did vote for Macca and claims VT. Bussing is a possibility, but idk. Let's say super slight scum read based on everyone else by I have no desire to vote for him for the time being unless it's him versus someone I feel is town late in a day.
JF1981 - Makes me look like a auctioneer in terms of how little he talks. Fuck if I know. We'll get a replacement soon.
Macca573 - Dead scum. Nice.
rdrivera2005 - Early voter on macca but could have been trying to get the vote on when it looked like there was no hope of him being lynched since ehe voted when bozo looked like a surefire kill. Neutral
summit_fever - Claims PR and voted for Macca AND is voting for Donny? Strong town reads here.
TheFlyingBoat - Got to see this guy’s role PM. Definite town and PR
TheRealCottonmouth - Died with nary a spoken word. Town.
Vecna - Seemed very supportive of the town in Day 1. Seems to be quieter now, but considering my lack of saying much, I can’t hold it too much against him. I am inclined to stick with the reads I issued day 1 here.
worcej - Once again sticking with my Day 1 read here. I think one of him and emc are town and the other is mafia. I am inclined to believe that worcej is the townie.
xorxes

[TheFlyingBoat]

Got my MacBook Pro repaired in the end, turns out after the first repair, the guy forgot to reconnect the coax cables to the wifi card. Guess it passed their diagnostic because the wifi card was properly seated and connected (apparently that's all their diagnostic checked for wrt to the wifi card) even though it couldn't get an RSSI of better than -90 db, when practically adjacent to the router. Anyways, my laptop is fixed, work is done, here are my thoughts/reads before I take a nice shower and rewatch season 2 of 24.

The list of people who are PRs and VTs
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)
Unknown+Dead: TRC
Mafia+Dead:Macca

Voters on two main bandwagons:
Macca573 (7) xorxes rdrivera2005 bozotheclown Durga summit_fever Hellenic Riot damo666

bozotheclown (6) JF1981 worcej Vecna BobMcBob TheFlyingBoat Chaqa

The duo:
worcej (2) BismarckAlive Macca573

The solo voters on other people:
brainbomb (1) flash2015
flash2015 (1) TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) Donny Dude
damo666 (1) brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) e.m.c^42


The list of people

BismarckAlive - PR claim, seemed good Day 1, mostly silent this turn. Don't like the worcej vote but he is voting for Donny which I do like. Let's say slight town.

BobMcBob - Claims to be in chat with Macca, seemed a little bit scummy at first, now I'm on the fence. Let's say no clue for now.

bozotheclown - I thought he was scum at first based on pure gut but was convinced during a reading of the night args as posted previously that he was town that is further supported by brainbomb's claims to be his buddy and I don't think that was ever refuted and brain bomb claims to have strong town reads on him, so I'll take that at face value and give him a slight town read since he got a town read from someone who I give a medium town read.

brainbomb - Posted all his reads early, posted often, and is in a VT-VT buddy team in his claim. I don't know about the meta calcs of doing so versus not doing so if you are a VT-VT pair, but in the end I trust him on balance and that I get medium town reads from him.

Chaqa/Jamie - Scummy as hell but is also uncounterclaimed PR. We'll see what happens in the night. Still think he is scum team but don't think we should vote for him.

damo666 - Seem to get decent reads from this dude. Last vote on Macca and is currently voting for Donny who I think is scum. Claimed VT. Medium town read.

Donny Dude - Was so confident Chaqa was mafia he voted for him Day 1 solo and stuck with his vote despite him being online at EOD for a very tight vote that barely went in the town's favor. This turn, when we should be voting from the VT pool, he votes for a PR that isn't the PR he had strong scum reads on him. He unvoted Chaqa/Jamie after being told he shouldn't vote for an uncounterclaimed PR and then votes for an unclaimed PR due to lack of activity. This isn't an OMGUS even though it will come across this way. This is either very clearly scum or very clearly dumb.

Durga - No read any particular way based on posting. Claimed VT and voted for Macca. Slight town lean, but very slight.

e.m.c^42 - I think one of worcej and emc is dirty while the other is clean. I think worcej is clean therefore emc is dirty.
flash2015 - Claims to be PR, but I have nothing really to go on in terms of posts. Will see in N2 I guess

Hellenic Riot - A lot of meta claims against him, but idk. Slight scum read I guess if I trust the majority, but I've never played with him. He did vote for Macca and claims VT. Bussing is a possibility, but idk. Let's say super slight scum read based on everyone else by I have no desire to vote for him for the time being unless it's him versus someone I feel is town late in a day.

JF1981 - Makes me look like a auctioneer in terms of how little he talks. Fuck if I know. We'll get a replacement soon.
Macca573 - Dead scum. Nice.

rdrivera2005 - Early voter on macca but could have been trying to get the vote on when it looked like there was no hope of him being lynched since ehe voted when bozo looked like a surefire kill. Neutral

summit_fever - Claims PR and voted for Macca AND is voting for Donny? Strong town reads here.

TheFlyingBoat - Got to see this guy’s role PM. Definite town and PR

TheRealCottonmouth - Died with nary a spoken word. Town.

Vecna - Seemed very supportive of the town in Day 1. Seems to be quieter now, but considering my lack of saying much, I can’t hold it too much against him. I am inclined to stick with the reads I issued day 1 here.

worcej - Once again sticking with my Day 1 read here. I think one of him and emc are town and the other is mafia. I am inclined to believe that worcej is the townie.

xorxes - Had a negative read of him at first due to perceived mafia coaching but with him voting for Macca and being a PR I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as N2 will reveal all, or at least almost all.

Just realized I forgot xorxes. fixed inline.

[summit_fever]

Just realized I forgot xorxes. fixed inline.

Hmm. Just a heads-up I claimed VT

[TheFlyingBoat]

Just realized I forgot xorxes. fixed inline.

Hmm. Just a heads-up I claimed VT

Thanks for the correction.

[Donny Dude]

Got my MacBook Pro repaired in the end, turns out after the first repair, the guy forgot to reconnect the coax cables to the wifi card. Guess it passed their diagnostic because the wifi card was properly seated and connected (apparently that's all their diagnostic checked for wrt to the wifi card) even though it couldn't get an RSSI of better than -90 db, when practically adjacent to the router. Anyways, my laptop is fixed, work is done, here are my thoughts/reads before I take a nice shower and rewatch season 2 of 24.

The list of people who are PRs and VTs
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)
Unknown+Dead: TRC
Mafia+Dead:Macca

Voters on two main bandwagons:
Macca573 (7) xorxes rdrivera2005 bozotheclown Durga summit_fever Hellenic Riot damo666

bozotheclown (6) JF1981 worcej Vecna BobMcBob TheFlyingBoat Chaqa

The duo:
worcej (2) BismarckAlive Macca573

The solo voters on other people:
brainbomb (1) flash2015
flash2015 (1) TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) Donny Dude
damo666 (1) brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) e.m.c^42


The list of people
BismarckAlive - PR claim, seemed good Day 1, mostly silent this turn. Don't like the worcej vote but he is voting for Donny which I do like. Let's say slight town.
BobMcBob - Claims to be in chat with Macca, seemed a little bit scummy at first, now I'm on the fence. Let's say no clue for now.
bozotheclown - I thought he was scum at first based on pure gut but was convinced during a reading of the night args as posted previously that he was town that is further supported by brainbomb's claims to be his buddy and I don't think that was ever refuted and brain bomb claims to have strong town reads on him, so I'll take that at face value and give him a slight town read since he got a town read from someone who I give a medium town read.
brainbomb - Posted all his reads early, posted often, and is in a VT-VT buddy team in his claim. I don't know about the meta calcs of doing so versus not doing so if you are a VT-VT pair, but in the end I trust him on balance and that I get medium town reads from him.
Chaqa/Jamie - Scummy as hell but is also uncounterclaimed PR. We'll see what happens in the night. Still think he is scum team but don't think we should vote for him.
damo666 - Seem to get decent reads from this dude. Last vote on Macca and is currently voting for Donny who I think is scum. Claimed VT. Medium town read.
Donny Dude - Was so confident Chaqa was mafia he voted for him Day 1 solo and stuck with his vote despite him being online at EOD for a very tight vote that barely went in the town's favor. This turn, when we should be voting from the VT pool, he votes for a PR that isn't the PR he had strong scum reads on him. He unvoted Chaqa/Jamie after being told he shouldn't vote for an uncounterclaimed PR and then votes for an unclaimed PR due to lack of activity. This isn't an OMGUS even though it will come across this way. This is either very clearly scum or very clearly dumb.
Durga - No read any particular way based on posting. Claimed VT and voted for Macca. Slight town lean, but very slight.
e.m.c^42 - I think one of worcej and emc is dirty while the other is clean. I think worcej is clean therefore emc is dirty.
flash2015 - Claims to be PR, but I have nothing really to go on in terms of posts. Will see in N2 I guess
Hellenic Riot - A lot of meta claims against him, but idk. Slight scum read I guess if I trust the majority, but I've never played with him. He did vote for Macca and claims VT. Bussing is a possibility, but idk. Let's say super slight scum read based on everyone else by I have no desire to vote for him for the time being unless it's him versus someone I feel is town late in a day.
JF1981 - Makes me look like a auctioneer in terms of how little he talks. Fuck if I know. We'll get a replacement soon.
Macca573 - Dead scum. Nice.
rdrivera2005 - Early voter on macca but could have been trying to get the vote on when it looked like there was no hope of him being lynched since ehe voted when bozo looked like a surefire kill. Neutral
summit_fever - Claims PR and voted for Macca AND is voting for Donny? Strong town reads here.
TheFlyingBoat - Got to see this guy’s role PM. Definite town and PR
TheRealCottonmouth - Died with nary a spoken word. Town.
Vecna - Seemed very supportive of the town in Day 1. Seems to be quieter now, but considering my lack of saying much, I can’t hold it too much against him. I am inclined to stick with the reads I issued day 1 here.
worcej - Once again sticking with my Day 1 read here. I think one of him and emc are town and the other is mafia. I am inclined to believe that worcej is the townie.
xorxes

Gotta hate sloppy repair jobs. At least you got it fixed.
Been having a dishwasher saga where we are now on dishwasher #3 which has been over a month in not resolving.
Relooking at the vts since everyone seems to hard disagree with my opinion, which is fine.
I guess out of that list, Idk, my problem is that there is not anyone who screams scum enough for me to vote for them.
I will accept cases among the vts since I am just not seeing anything I like and will reread as needed.
I guess I could vote no lynch but that would be dumb, I think.

[bozotheclown]

Scum team predictions:

bozo: Jamie, flash, Donny, rdrivera
Donny: Jamie, HR, damo, TFB
brainbomb: Donny, Jamie, rdrivera, summit
Jamie: bozo, Bob, flash, TFB
HR: Donny, brainbomb, Jamie, xorxes
rdrivera: Bob, Donny, Jamie, TFB
xorxes: HR, summit, Jamie, JF
summit: Donny, damo, flash, JF

[summit_fever]

Gotta hate sloppy repair jobs. At least you got it fixed.
Been having a dishwasher saga where we are now on dishwasher #3 which has been over a month in not resolving.
Relooking at the vts since everyone seems to hard disagree with my opinion, which is fine.
I guess out of that list, Idk, my problem is that there is not anyone who screams scum enough for me to vote for them.
I will accept cases among the vts since I am just not seeing anything I like and will reread as needed.
I guess I could vote no lynch but that would be dumb, I think.

Maybe you just don't get it? I really don't think mafia chat would have allowed you to come out this unprepared.

[bozotheclown]

Got my MacBook Pro repaired in the end, turns out after the first repair, the guy forgot to reconnect the coax cables to the wifi card. Guess it passed their diagnostic because the wifi card was properly seated and connected (apparently that's all their diagnostic checked for wrt to the wifi card) even though it couldn't get an RSSI of better than -90 db, when practically adjacent to the router. Anyways, my laptop is fixed, work is done, here are my thoughts/reads before I take a nice shower and rewatch season 2 of 24.

The list of people who are PRs and VTs
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)
Unknown+Dead: TRC
Mafia+Dead:Macca

Voters on two main bandwagons:
Macca573 (7) xorxes rdrivera2005 bozotheclown Durga summit_fever Hellenic Riot damo666

bozotheclown (6) JF1981 worcej Vecna BobMcBob TheFlyingBoat Chaqa

The duo:
worcej (2) BismarckAlive Macca573

The solo voters on other people:
brainbomb (1) flash2015
flash2015 (1) TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) Donny Dude
damo666 (1) brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) e.m.c^42


The list of people

BismarckAlive - PR claim, seemed good Day 1, mostly silent this turn. Don't like the worcej vote but he is voting for Donny which I do like. Let's say slight town.

BobMcBob - Claims to be in chat with Macca, seemed a little bit scummy at first, now I'm on the fence. Let's say no clue for now.

bozotheclown - I thought he was scum at first based on pure gut but was convinced during a reading of the night args as posted previously that he was town that is further supported by brainbomb's claims to be his buddy and I don't think that was ever refuted and brain bomb claims to have strong town reads on him, so I'll take that at face value and give him a slight town read since he got a town read from someone who I give a medium town read.

brainbomb - Posted all his reads early, posted often, and is in a VT-VT buddy team in his claim. I don't know about the meta calcs of doing so versus not doing so if you are a VT-VT pair, but in the end I trust him on balance and that I get medium town reads from him.

Chaqa/Jamie - Scummy as hell but is also uncounterclaimed PR. We'll see what happens in the night. Still think he is scum team but don't think we should vote for him.

damo666 - Seem to get decent reads from this dude. Last vote on Macca and is currently voting for Donny who I think is scum. Claimed VT. Medium town read.

Donny Dude - Was so confident Chaqa was mafia he voted for him Day 1 solo and stuck with his vote despite him being online at EOD for a very tight vote that barely went in the town's favor. This turn, when we should be voting from the VT pool, he votes for a PR that isn't the PR he had strong scum reads on him. He unvoted Chaqa/Jamie after being told he shouldn't vote for an uncounterclaimed PR and then votes for an unclaimed PR due to lack of activity. This isn't an OMGUS even though it will come across this way. This is either very clearly scum or very clearly dumb.

Durga - No read any particular way based on posting. Claimed VT and voted for Macca. Slight town lean, but very slight.

e.m.c^42 - I think one of worcej and emc is dirty while the other is clean. I think worcej is clean therefore emc is dirty.
flash2015 - Claims to be PR, but I have nothing really to go on in terms of posts. Will see in N2 I guess

Hellenic Riot - A lot of meta claims against him, but idk. Slight scum read I guess if I trust the majority, but I've never played with him. He did vote for Macca and claims VT. Bussing is a possibility, but idk. Let's say super slight scum read based on everyone else by I have no desire to vote for him for the time being unless it's him versus someone I feel is town late in a day.

JF1981 - Makes me look like a auctioneer in terms of how little he talks. Fuck if I know. We'll get a replacement soon.
Macca573 - Dead scum. Nice.

rdrivera2005 - Early voter on macca but could have been trying to get the vote on when it looked like there was no hope of him being lynched since ehe voted when bozo looked like a surefire kill. Neutral

summit_fever - Claims PR and voted for Macca AND is voting for Donny? Strong town reads here.

TheFlyingBoat - Got to see this guy’s role PM. Definite town and PR

TheRealCottonmouth - Died with nary a spoken word. Town.

Vecna - Seemed very supportive of the town in Day 1. Seems to be quieter now, but considering my lack of saying much, I can’t hold it too much against him. I am inclined to stick with the reads I issued day 1 here.

worcej - Once again sticking with my Day 1 read here. I think one of him and emc are town and the other is mafia. I am inclined to believe that worcej is the townie.

xorxes - Had a negative read of him at first due to perceived mafia coaching but with him voting for Macca and being a PR I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as N2 will reveal all, or at least almost all.

Just realized I forgot xorxes. fixed inline.

Based on this, can I record your scum team prediction as Donny, Jamie, emc, HR?

[summit_fever]

I hope we win something good bozo.

What do you think of Donny now Bozo?

[bozotheclown]

I hope we win something good bozo.

What do you think of Donny now Bozo?

I am doubting whether he is scum, but my scum read of him was based on POE anyway. I still think Bob and brainbomb are town, so if I am right about them and Donny is also town, the 2 VT scum (or possibly 3) would have voted for Macca.

[TheFlyingBoat]

Got my MacBook Pro repaired in the end, turns out after the first repair, the guy forgot to reconnect the coax cables to the wifi card. Guess it passed their diagnostic because the wifi card was properly seated and connected (apparently that's all their diagnostic checked for wrt to the wifi card) even though it couldn't get an RSSI of better than -90 db, when practically adjacent to the router. Anyways, my laptop is fixed, work is done, here are my thoughts/reads before I take a nice shower and rewatch season 2 of 24.

The list of people who are PRs and VTs
PR: xorxes, Vecna, flash, emc, TFB, Bismarck, JF, Chaqa, worcej (9)
VT: damo, rdrivera, HR, bozo, Durga, Donny, summit, brainbomb, BobMcBob (9)
Unknown+Dead: TRC
Mafia+Dead:Macca

Voters on two main bandwagons:
Macca573 (7) xorxes rdrivera2005 bozotheclown Durga summit_fever Hellenic Riot damo666

bozotheclown (6) JF1981 worcej Vecna BobMcBob TheFlyingBoat Chaqa

The duo:
worcej (2) BismarckAlive Macca573

The solo voters on other people:
brainbomb (1) flash2015
flash2015 (1) TheRealCottonmouth
Chaqa (1) Donny Dude
damo666 (1) brainbomb
TheRealCottonmouth (1) e.m.c^42


The list of people

BismarckAlive - PR claim, seemed good Day 1, mostly silent this turn. Don't like the worcej vote but he is voting for Donny which I do like. Let's say slight town.

BobMcBob - Claims to be in chat with Macca, seemed a little bit scummy at first, now I'm on the fence. Let's say no clue for now.

bozotheclown - I thought he was scum at first based on pure gut but was convinced during a reading of the night args as posted previously that he was town that is further supported by brainbomb's claims to be his buddy and I don't think that was ever refuted and brain bomb claims to have strong town reads on him, so I'll take that at face value and give him a slight town read since he got a town read from someone who I give a medium town read.

brainbomb - Posted all his reads early, posted often, and is in a VT-VT buddy team in his claim. I don't know about the meta calcs of doing so versus not doing so if you are a VT-VT pair, but in the end I trust him on balance and that I get medium town reads from him.

Chaqa/Jamie - Scummy as hell but is also uncounterclaimed PR. We'll see what happens in the night. Still think he is scum team but don't think we should vote for him.

damo666 - Seem to get decent reads from this dude. Last vote on Macca and is currently voting for Donny who I think is scum. Claimed VT. Medium town read.

Donny Dude - Was so confident Chaqa was mafia he voted for him Day 1 solo and stuck with his vote despite him being online at EOD for a very tight vote that barely went in the town's favor. This turn, when we should be voting from the VT pool, he votes for a PR that isn't the PR he had strong scum reads on him. He unvoted Chaqa/Jamie after being told he shouldn't vote for an uncounterclaimed PR and then votes for an unclaimed PR due to lack of activity. This isn't an OMGUS even though it will come across this way. This is either very clearly scum or very clearly dumb.

Durga - No read any particular way based on posting. Claimed VT and voted for Macca. Slight town lean, but very slight.

e.m.c^42 - I think one of worcej and emc is dirty while the other is clean. I think worcej is clean therefore emc is dirty.
flash2015 - Claims to be PR, but I have nothing really to go on in terms of posts. Will see in N2 I guess

Hellenic Riot - A lot of meta claims against him, but idk. Slight scum read I guess if I trust the majority, but I've never played with him. He did vote for Macca and claims VT. Bussing is a possibility, but idk. Let's say super slight scum read based on everyone else by I have no desire to vote for him for the time being unless it's him versus someone I feel is town late in a day.

JF1981 - Makes me look like a auctioneer in terms of how little he talks. Fuck if I know. We'll get a replacement soon.
Macca573 - Dead scum. Nice.

rdrivera2005 - Early voter on macca but could have been trying to get the vote on when it looked like there was no hope of him being lynched since ehe voted when bozo looked like a surefire kill. Neutral

summit_fever - Claims PR and voted for Macca AND is voting for Donny? Strong town reads here.

TheFlyingBoat - Got to see this guy’s role PM. Definite town and PR

TheRealCottonmouth - Died with nary a spoken word. Town.

Vecna - Seemed very supportive of the town in Day 1. Seems to be quieter now, but considering my lack of saying much, I can’t hold it too much against him. I am inclined to stick with the reads I issued day 1 here.

worcej - Once again sticking with my Day 1 read here. I think one of him and emc are town and the other is mafia. I am inclined to believe that worcej is the townie.

xorxes - Had a negative read of him at first due to perceived mafia coaching but with him voting for Macca and being a PR I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as N2 will reveal all, or at least almost all.

Just realized I forgot xorxes. fixed inline.

Based on this, can I record your scum team prediction as Donny, Jamie, emc, HR?

Sure, with the caveat being HR is pretty much purely based on meta reads from others and I don't feel that confident in it

[summit_fever]

Bozo, can you explain why would have pushed the mass claim as scum?

[bozotheclown]

Scum team predictions:

bozo: Jamie, flash, Donny, rdrivera
Donny: Jamie, HR, damo, TFB
brainbomb: Donny, Jamie, rdrivera, summit
Jamie: bozo, Bob, flash, TFB
HR: Donny, brainbomb, Jamie, xorxes
rdrivera: Bob, Donny, Jamie, TFB
xorxes: HR, summit, Jamie, JF
summit: Donny, damo, flash, JF
TFB: Donny, Jamie, emc, HR

[summit_fever]

##vote damo