Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[dargorygel]

And I agree with Balki... we're better than this.

[ND]

Whatever ND had for breakfast, he shouldn't have.
ND likes to try different persona... not sure what to make of this one, but it's pretty bursty and angry. Is that AI?

You disagree with my reads Darg?

[Durga]

I'm getting drunk so I CANT engage rn

But I will say

I am contractually obligated to say

Although I don't give a shit about this

I'm still obligated

To say this

GO RAPTORS!!!!!

[Durga]

And I agree with Balki... we're better than this.

You're the best person on webdip darg ILY

Ok bye

[EspressoPatronum]

Catching up on the thread now. It's been a pretty busy week for me, so my engagement has been low. I'll have more free time on D2 and onwards.

[dargorygel]

Whatever ND had for breakfast, he shouldn't have.
ND likes to try different persona... not sure what to make of this one, but it's pretty bursty and angry. Is that AI?

You disagree with my reads Darg?

I don't know... I read through today only once... my general feeling was that you burst things out... and seem angry... I will sleep and read your thoughts, and respond tomorrow.

[dargorygel]

@Chippe
Can you explain to me why you were SO forceful and pushy that we NOT lynch Flavius? Beyond just that you 'felt' he was town... I mean, what ended up happening is that we DID misslynch a town, right?

It's D1... why were you not just sorta sure... but REALLY LOUDLY sure?

I would expect this kind of pressure on D3... but D1? Help me understand you.

[dargorygel]

And finally... before I give up and finish my bourbon and go to bed...
@Nephthys... I have read your gut reads in the Godthread in other games. And I have said to myself that I should sheep you. You don't TELL us your gutreads very concisely... I hope you do so before the EoN...

[EspressoPatronum]

Oh yeah because my push on Neph was so indicative of my desire to blend in. Just shut up you lying scummy asshole. Go talk to your scum friends and leave us alone so we can figure out the game. Lord knows if you're somehow town you'll never be able to do it.

In fact - I've seen no indication of your desire to game solve beyond your vitriol at other players for apparently not game solving. You point fingers and claim someone is scummy for actions that are actually either townie or NAI. And that's all you've "contributed".

I've contributed more to this game than you have. Don't be hypocritical. At least my posts aren't all 1-2 sentences long.

There's something to be said about you responding to a post that's multiple sentences with that last line. Something absolutely hilarious. All you've contributed is fucking garbage and an apparent attempt to cheat or lie. Since it's apparently not cheating, I'm going with lying. I should never have excused your actions at the beginning of the game.

If he did it once already, he'll probably try something again this game.

Imo, his posting has been a lot better once he stopped with the whole VT thing. He's one of the top contributors. Whether or not you disagree with the content of his posts, it's certainly moving discussion along.

None of that changes the fact that doesn't change the fact that he likely* tried gaming the system.

*We don't know for sure. Per Worcej's post, "Chippe has yet to break any rules" ... but Worcej also said he "can't say yes or no to" to whether Chippe's vagueness was a contributing factor to the lack of cheating.

[ChippeRock]

@Chippe
Can you explain to me why you were SO forceful and pushy that we NOT lynch Flavius? Beyond just that you 'felt' he was town... I mean, what ended up happening is that we DID misslynch a town, right?

It's D1... why were you not just sorta sure... but REALLY LOUDLY sure?

I would expect this kind of pressure on D3... but D1? Help me understand you.

I felt that bozo and Flav was Town v. Town - but I felt more confident Flav was more town than bozo. So I tried getting a wagon on someone who I felt was actually scum: TrPrado. However, when I realized this was destined to fail & the wagon was going no where, I decided to lynch the scummiest of the remaining logical options: Flav vs bozo. Even though I felt both were town, I felt bozo was scummier than Flav was, and as a result, I decided to lynch bozo over Flav because bozo was more likely to be scum.

If we had had more time so that we could get that TrPrado wagon going, I would of stuck with it. Or if that Durga wagon had turned into something.

[dargorygel]

I wish we could +1

[ChippeRock]

@Chippe
Can you explain to me why you were SO forceful and pushy that we NOT lynch Flavius? Beyond just that you 'felt' he was town... I mean, what ended up happening is that we DID misslynch a town, right?

It's D1... why were you not just sorta sure... but REALLY LOUDLY sure?

I would expect this kind of pressure on D3... but D1? Help me understand you.

I felt that bozo and Flav was Town v. Town - but I felt more confident Flav was more town than bozo. So I tried getting a wagon on someone who I felt was actually scum: TrPrado. However, when I realized this was destined to fail & the wagon was going no where, I decided to lynch the scummiest of the remaining logical options: Flav vs bozo. Even though I felt both were town, I felt bozo was scummier than Flav was, and as a result, I decided to lynch bozo over Flav because bozo was more likely to be scum.

If we had had more time so that we could get that TrPrado wagon going, I would of stuck with it. Or if that Durga wagon had turned into something.

logical = there's a reasonable chance that they would get lynched if I voted for them

[EspressoPatronum]

So much fighting. Stop fighting!

Be nice. Be respectful. Find scum.

I don’t think we’re helping ourselves with the personal attacks. It’s frankly turning me off from the game, and I’m probably not the only one. We don’t need to insult each other personally to make a point.

ANYONE who is calm after we just killed a lurker day one AFTER EVERYONE SAID NOT TOO
Makes me

Durga, me, bozo, and teacon (sort of) were all open to policy lynching. I'm sure there were others.

Saying that "EVERYONE SAID NOT TOO [sic" is a little much.

[dargorygel]

Oh, and yeah...
NOT just because she sent me a heart... but what exactly is scummy about Durga? I don't see it.
Durga is involved, and arguing without excessive anger/defensive. This feels like townie Durga to me.
Her explanation about D1 tracks with reality...
So convince me.

[TrPrado]

I already told you why bozo's words maybe just maybe mean NOTHING
You still havent responded as to why thinking TrPrado is a scum is bad

Because I don't think TrPrado is scum. I think he is town. I've played with him enough to recognize town tells from him.

Maybe you can help me figure him out then.
If it weren't for the fact that I have trouble seeing mafia do all the work he did, given its low potential reward, I'd be sure he's mafia.
What are you seeing that I'm not? Where am I off-base?

I'm eccentric

[ChippeRock]

Oh, and yeah...
NOT just because she sent me a heart... but what exactly is scummy about Durga? I don't see it.
Durga is involved, and arguing without excessive anger/defensive. This feels like townie Durga to me.
Her explanation about D1 tracks with reality...
So convince me.

What are you talking about? She got so butthurt she refused to answer a perfectly logical question of mine and said she would stop talking to me. But whatever you say, that's not excessive anger in any way.

[dargorygel]

@Chippe
Can you explain to me why you were SO forceful and pushy that we NOT lynch Flavius? Beyond just that you 'felt' he was town... I mean, what ended up happening is that we DID misslynch a town, right?

It's D1... why were you not just sorta sure... but REALLY LOUDLY sure?

I would expect this kind of pressure on D3... but D1? Help me understand you.

I felt that bozo and Flav was Town v. Town - but I felt more confident Flav was more town than bozo. So I tried getting a wagon on someone who I felt was actually scum: TrPrado. However, when I realized this was destined to fail & the wagon was going no where, I decided to lynch the scummiest of the remaining logical options: Flav vs bozo. Even though I felt both were town, I felt bozo was scummier than Flav was, and as a result, I decided to lynch bozo over Flav because bozo was more likely to be scum.

If we had had more time so that we could get that TrPrado wagon going, I would of stuck with it. Or if that Durga wagon had turned into something.

Thanks, I think I follow that. I'll respond in the morning... if I don't nudge me, please. I don't think I agree with your reasoning... but let's talk.

[Nephthys]

Btw I caught scum so uhhhh yeah. We're killing Neph next day.

Id like him to explain why he voted late, instead of you just declaring he needs to die

I didn't want a tie. I personally didn't want either Flav or bozo to die but what can I do.

[dargorygel]

Oh, and yeah...
NOT just because she sent me a heart... but what exactly is scummy about Durga? I don't see it.
Durga is involved, and arguing without excessive anger/defensive. This feels like townie Durga to me.
Her explanation about D1 tracks with reality...
So convince me.

What are you talking about? She got so butthurt she refused to answer a perfectly logical question of mine and said she would stop talking to me. But whatever you say, that's not excessive anger in any way.

I think you came into the game with some prejudice against you... including Durga. I get her reaction... and yes, NOT answering is not excessive anger.

[EspressoPatronum]

I already told you why bozo's words maybe just maybe mean NOTHING
You still havent responded as to why thinking TrPrado is a scum is bad

Because I don't think TrPrado is scum. I think he is town. I've played with him enough to recognize town tells from him.

Can you tell us some of the tells?

I thought the wall post he made was pretty townie. Assuming the analysis he posts later is along the same lines, I'd say that's more pro-town evidence