MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[brainbomb]

Why the fuck would he answer that lol? Asking an outted doctor, that cannot save the same person consecutively, who he tried to save last night is such a fucking scummove.

Let the scum use their roleblocker to kill him and get caught by the tracker.

If Peter has something to tell to us, he can always do it 1 minute before EON.

How does tracker catch scum by tracking doc? Its a tracker not a watcher..

[Vecna]

Look at the number of players left alive.

Subtract 2 for known identity of tracker and doc.

Potentially subtract 1-2 for earlier tracked persons

Yeah those are pretty good odds to catch scum if they both RB and kill (they cannot be done by the same person).

[Squigs44]

##vote Jamie
Don't lynch BB, guys.

[brainbomb]

Theres been no wagons other than myself and James Q Harrison mcburgerqueen today.

While im glad to see obvious bad guy dyin, I am bovvered by rivera

[brainbomb]

Look at the number of players left alive.

Subtract 2 for known identity of tracker and doc.

Potentially subtract 1-2 for earlier tracked persons

Yeah those are pretty good odds to catch scum if they both RB and kill (they cannot be done by the same person).

Why would tracker be able to tell the difference between a vt and a scum who holstered action?

[brainbomb]

I get the distinct impression Vecna is warping both the abilities and capabilities of a tracker so lets fix some of his... erm, 'mistakes'.

The tracker is not a WATCHER
The tracker doesnt pick someone and see all who visit them, thats not what a tracker is.

A tracker only sees who you visit.
Period.

If you dont visit anyone, he gets a message saying you didnt visit anyone.
Claiming tracker is the worst worst role to ever claim. Period.
The only time you ever claim is if you have a positive.

Why? Because negatives can mean many things.
A. That tracker visited a scum not using an action or performinga kill. 3 games ago fluminator claimed tracker, followed foxcastle 3 phases in a row. Fluminators mistake was claiming at all,and claiming foxcastle hadnt made any moves. This made people think fox was town, fox wins the game and mvp by letting dargo do all the moves.

B. Tracker with visits that went nowhere should be accompanied by a strong reason to doubt that player is scum beyond just the scan. Dont claim you saw a null read of yours go nowhere. (ANY ROLE CAN HOLSTER, EVEN SK CAN FORGOE KILL ACTIONS UNTIL TRACKER IS DEAD)

C. Never ever ever ever ever claim tracker without a positive scan that outs sk, scum, or assists in PR verifying. If on some wack off chance a doctor claims a,save that was fake, ya okay tracker can prove the doc was lying, but a fake doc is already counter claimable anyway so thats a moronic person to track.

[brainbomb]

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Vecna
Day-3 37:06
page 81
↑peterlund: "I was not RBed. Got no message about being RBed."
Seems mafia are still trying really hard to dodge the tracker/JOAT.

Teacher would know full well it normally is completely optimal to janitor N1 (beause for the rest of the game, town is going to be suspicious of any PR claim). Instead they appear to have chosen a completely safe approach to avoid getting caught by tracking.



This is odd. Here you imply that janitor wasnt used because of tracker/joat. But you dont deny roleblocker being used.

Are you denying roleblocker was used on me? Or that it was used at all?

[brainbomb]

Vecna
Day-3 36:30
page 81 What I think happened;

Mafia has only two people left, and is scared and on the defence. They probably chose not to take any actions, because its quite likely their members are in the spotlight.

After the Teacher lynch there where 14 people left. That means the tracker has 13 people to choose from, of which 2 are scum. If the scum would roleblock and kill, thats 1 in 6 odds either of them get caught. If the Joat would also track, those odds become way higher still.

We've all seen Teacher be super scared of the tracker. He did this math. He did the full claim of the tracker. You've seen him do the statistics in thread, he likes numbers. We saw there was no roleblock and janitoring N1. The entire mafia strategy right now is on evading the trackers, and they probably wouldve preferred not killing, over getting another one of their numbers caught and pretty much having no chance left to win anymore.

Brainbomb is bullshitting yet again. There is no way the mafia would go through a useless roleblock with such high odds of getting caught. Teacher wouldve put a stop to it. Much safer to not RB/Janitor and just let the uncatchable ninja do the kills without odds of getting caught. That means one of your members can also claim RB;d in order to appear more towny.

##vote Brainbomb

Im not sure if he's paired with Worcey, or Jamiet, or some other guy. But I want to string him up. The way he danced about the Teacher wagon and my questioning also made me very suspect of him. As did his response afterwards. The way he instantly jumped onto conclusions felt like it was fueled on fear.

How is this possible if teachers dead?
None of this makes sense. Now youre arguing scum holstered all actions out of fear of tracker guessing right?

Tracker(s)??? Theres exactly 1.

I was not aware the Joat has track? Is that 1 shot then? Seems farfetched to think a 1 shot ability is worth holstering all your actions over.

This is so detailed in explaining scumteams mentality I have to assume occams razor here on some level.

Also there should still be 3 mafia left plus an sk

[brainbomb]

Apparently I am mistaken and its only 3 maf, a traitor and sk.

In that case scum would actively be trying to find sk and keep him alive. If they think someones actually sk they wouldnt be trying to lynch sk rn.

[rdrivera2005]

Apparently I am mistaken and its only 3 maf, a traitor and sk.

In that case scum would actively be trying to find sk and keep him alive. If they think someones actually sk they wouldnt be trying to lynch sk rn.

This is completely fake. I can't imagine a world where you don't know how many scum exists.

##vote brainbomb

[damo666]

DT please lose the anger and use your vote sensibly.
Jamie - the physician ref was a proud to brain to get a reaction. There was none so maybe I am spot on. Maybe not. It's 12-1 ( I know at least one person who ain't doc)!

[damo666]

*prod

[damo666]

Jamie, is DT your scum partner?
Peter where are you?

[damo666]

Squiggs Vodka Tonic with me?

[DoubtingThomas]

DT please lose the anger and use your vote sensibly.
Jamie - the physician ref was a proud to brain to get a reaction. There was none so maybe I am spot on. Maybe not. It's 12-1 ( I know at least one person who ain't doc)!

what do you mean use my vote sensibly?

Jamie is scum ##vote jamie

[brainbomb]

Apparently I am mistaken and its only 3 maf, a traitor and sk.

In that case scum would actively be trying to find sk and keep him alive. If they think someones actually sk they wouldnt be trying to lynch sk rn.

This is completely fake. I can't imagine a world where you don't know how many scum exists.

##vote brainbomb

Considering all my reads before this post had 3 scum each time its pretty obvious you are mistaken

[damo666]

Like that

[DoubtingThomas]

Like that

How do you not see Jamie's suspicious behavior

[damo666]

I don't understand DT. I have a long standing vote on Jamie.

[DoubtingThomas]

I don't understand DT. I have a long standing vote on Jamie.

I don't understand what you mean by 'use my votes sensibly' when I am voting Jamie consistently because I think he is scum consistently?