Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:53 pm
SeeBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:58 pmAll new people. Invited get a D1 pass so back off bona
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SeeBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:58 pmAll new people. Invited get a D1 pass so back off bona
I'm unvoted because I don't know how to make my vote actually count. I thought damo might be someone to vote for, but others seem to imply that this isn't indicative of anything bsed on Damo's character which makes me feel less certain of whether I'm right about anything.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:51 pmYou realise that's why I listed them, yes? They are on one-vote wagons that have no traction. So their vote is very unlikely to contribute to the outcome.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:49 pmI checked and other than me who is currently unvoted, the other four are all people who are the single vote toward another person. Is there a reason for them to change the vote if they believe the person they're voting for might be scum?Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:48 pm
I don't understand this question.
Can you be clearer about who the "they"s are in your question please?
Generally it's good for town if people try to make their vote count.
iso considered harmfulBesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:16 pmI would love if more people look at damo iso and join me on this wagon Choo choo
There's an additional reason, of course, why people ought to try to make their votes count in this specific setup.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:53 pmI'm unvoted because I don't know how to make my vote actually count. I thought damo might be someone to vote for, but others seem to imply that this isn't indicative of anything bsed on Damo's character which makes me feel less certain of whether I'm right about anything.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:51 pmYou realise that's why I listed them, yes? They are on one-vote wagons that have no traction. So their vote is very unlikely to contribute to the outcome.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:49 pm
I checked and other than me who is currently unvoted, the other four are all people who are the single vote toward another person. Is there a reason for them to change the vote if they believe the person they're voting for might be scum?
Generally it's good for town if people try to make their vote count.
I have a very long track record of incorrectly reading just about everyone I know in any social situation. So I rely mostly on my interpretations of others reads of people.
Sabi’s lack of expressed suspicion, or lack of explanation of why our suspicion of Byz is misplaced based on their past experience, is odd for sure. Sabi responded to that “are you pocketing me?” prompt by saying Byz was null, but then moved Byz up to a townlean with a relatively summary explanation (“I ISOed Byz and his ISO looked good”).Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:46 pm@Eden: In the context of these comments, what do you feel about the fact that Sabi is hardcore defending Byz, complaining and criticising anyone who suspects or votes Byz.... as if Byz is basically Sabi’s top townread and, apparently, a hillock that Sabi is prepared to die on.
This is a good instinct. You can tell more about the motivations of reads when you know the true alignment of the target. Someone townreading you could easily be doing it for nefarious reasons.Rumi Tobari wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:09 pmThis is going to sound silly, but I'm actually more inclined to trust the people who are suspicious of me vs the people who townread me. So I lowkey kind of want to trust Chaqa, I'd feel inclined to trust Bo more if Bo had been active enough to give me more of an impression as a person.dargorygel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:02 pmQuick post
Celaph feels ok to me. He reads like someone trying to help. It might be fake, but it doesn't seem like it after my iso.
Folk aren't interested in pyxie atm.
I also iso'd damo. I see sabi's point. I also see damo auditioning for webdip mafia stand up comic. Maybe he just doesn't see anything to dug into. But...
##vote damo
The people who I'm most suspicious of are honestly Damo (for the reasons stated earlier), and Pyx who did not feel like he was attempting to solve anything. At the same Bo similarly does not feel very participatey, kind of just here?
Celaph's questions feel more relevent and on topic, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I have no really strong opinions on others at this time.
Playing
Considering the rules of this game, which were set by the council that darg participates in despite him asking me several times if I could replace him with someone else, require a player to play and leave the GM some subjectivity rather than setting explicit posting requirements I don't really buy this extended justification of killing people for not playing.dargorygel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:17 pmThere is no value in arguing about how "bad" anyone, even ourselves are IN GAME. Save it for in between games. If anything marks our group is less than stellar, it is this tendancy. Play the game, please. Yes, that means play the people... but "you suck" is not helpful. Neither is "i suck."
Play the game.
##vote bo
I'm a little behind current so maybe this get discussed but there's only double vote and no vote affecting vote counts, and the only situation that we might want to avoid is both of those nametags ending up on the same wagon?dargorygel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:24 pmStupid phone
We are in the same boat rumi.
Fwiw, we all might consider spreading out some rather than one wagon. Perhaps because i do not have a must defend townie under pressure. But s bitbof spread could help us sleuth some tags.
Interesting findings. I can't wait to read your peer reviewed paper on this complicated subject.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:02 pmI wanted to see if he, or anyone else, would react.
So far you're the only person, I think, to have mentioned it.
Thank you for confirming this.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:22 pmI won't vote anyone I invited here day one. Just putting it out there.