Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Chaqa]

I'm 100% vanilla town guaranteed (TM)

[BobMcBob]

I'm 100% vanilla town guaranteed (TM)

that makes two of you

[Chaqa]

My issue is I do townread everyone to some extent as well.

I think pair analysis is the way to go.

[ghug]

My issue is I do townread everyone to some extent as well.

I think pair analysis is the way to go.

Yeah, this is where I've been for about two days

I came away from EoD thinking you/Bob wasn't very likely anymore, which means that your only plausible teammate is Maniac, so there's no reason to kill you tomorrow.

[BobMcBob]

My issue is I do townread everyone to some extent as well.

I think pair analysis is the way to go.

Yeah, this is where I've been for about two days

I came away from EoD thinking you/Bob wasn't very likely anymore, which means that your only plausible teammate is Maniac, so there's no reason to kill you tomorrow.

huh funny, thats like exactly what i said earlier too and you completely ignored it

[ghug]

My issue is I do townread everyone to some extent as well.

I think pair analysis is the way to go.

Yeah, this is where I've been for about two days

I came away from EoD thinking you/Bob wasn't very likely anymore, which means that your only plausible teammate is Maniac, so there's no reason to kill you tomorrow.

huh funny, thats like exactly what i said earlier too and you completely ignored it

When did you say that?

[BobMcBob]

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sure thing ghug, you can play mafia however you want
isos are just another tool that we can use

your d1 voting was bad
your reaction to jamie subbing out was bad
i mean really thats about everything that was actively bad, but thats still relevant

Everyone else thinks Jamie was scum now, and I don't, so I don't think you can really use my reaction there as a point against me. Jamie had a similarly pathetic outburst as scum last game against town kgray, so automatically townreading him for being emotional is silly.

I can see why a lazy, shallow analysis of D1 says my vote was bad, but that shouldn't be the analysis you're using, and even if you are, there are other people whose votes were bad.

like i said, everybody else has good bits, you dont really

that said, im not even sure individual scumminess is a good metric to vote by tomorrow
given that basically everyone is towny i dont feel confident just basing my reads off scumminess, especially at lilo
it seems like a great way for scum to take control of voting super easily and just get a miskill, especially by just pushing whichever of chaqa/ghug is not on the team (or either if neither of them are)

so i really wanna try to look more seriously at interactions and see what we can gain from that

[ghug]

here

Everyone else thinks Jamie was scum now, and I don't, so I don't think you can really use my reaction there as a point against me. Jamie had a similarly pathetic outburst as scum last game against town kgray, so automatically townreading him for being emotional is silly.

I can see why a lazy, shallow analysis of D1 says my vote was bad, but that shouldn't be the analysis you're using, and even if you are, there are other people whose votes were bad.

like i said, everybody else has good bits, you dont really

that said, im not even sure individual scumminess is a good metric to vote by tomorrow
given that basically everyone is towny i dont feel confident just basing my reads off scumminess, especially at lilo
it seems like a great way for scum to take control of voting super easily and just get a miskill, especially by just pushing whichever of chaqa/ghug is not on the team (or either if neither of them are)

so i really wanna try to look more seriously at interactions and see what we can gain from that

Oh, that you townread everyone? I'm not impressed by that. You've got one read and it's wrong.

[ghug]

Hi Jamiet99uk

[Maniac]

Can I ask those who think they might be night-killed to share their views at EON. Sharing them too soon only helps scum.

Those who remain tomorrow will need to look afresh at everything. We are now really up against it and can’t afford for town to be splitting their votes.

[BobMcBob]

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like i said, everybody else has good bits, you dont really

that said, im not even sure individual scumminess is a good metric to vote by tomorrow
given that basically everyone is towny i dont feel confident just basing my reads off scumminess, especially at lilo
it seems like a great way for scum to take control of voting super easily and just get a miskill, especially by just pushing whichever of chaqa/ghug is not on the team (or either if neither of them are)

so i really wanna try to look more seriously at interactions and see what we can gain from that

Oh, that you townread everyone? I'm not impressed by that. You've got one read and it's wrong.

fun fact, chaqa has no reads
this game is a horrible mess and scum are doing super well
its going to take a lot to find them
i dont feel at all good about you responding so differently to me than you do to chaqa when we are both in very much the same place

[Maniac]

But more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).

So you’ve decided not to kill me tonight then and push my kill tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up

[rdrivera2005]

But more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).

This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.

[ghug]

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Oh, that you townread everyone? I'm not impressed by that. You've got one read and it's wrong.

fun fact, chaqa has no reads
this game is a horrible mess and scum are doing super well
its going to take a lot to find them
i dont feel at all good about you responding so differently to me than you do to chaqa when we are both in very much the same place

I was agreeing with the part about looking at pairs. Why would I take kindly to "everyone appears townie except ghug"?

[ghug]

But more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).

This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.

The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.

[Maniac]

But more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).

This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.

The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.

Yeah you’ve got me good Ghug. I bussed D1 following the game where I was bussed heavily D1 and received zero credit.

I then killed Vecna whilst somehow simultaneously twisting his mind scum read you and chaqa.

Then I was so confident that I could kill the cop that I withheld the powerful RB to make myself look good.

Then I joined the daykill you and chaqa had been pushing just to make you look bad and keep you around until tomorrow.

Oh and I killed the doctor N1 for shits and giggles.

Give your head a wobble.

[rdrivera2005]

But more generally, if Chaqa and I both end up being town, I don't want any of y'all feeling absolved of guilt because the scum "played well". You've all created a situation where there's no hunting and very little AI voting because everyone's stuck in the same tunnel. The easiest way to win as scum is to stoke that shit and keep it going as long as possible (which is why we should kill Maniac tomorrow, not that I'll ever convince any of you of that).

This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.

The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.

Do you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)

Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).

[rdrivera2005]

This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.

The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.

Do you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)

Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).

In fact, the only way I can see Maniac as scum is if he is scum with you Ghug. Then it could make sense.

[ghug]

This is bullshit. You two are both alive, so there isn't such a big tunnel. Also, you two pushed the no-kill that was one of the main reasons the game dropped activity.

The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.

Do you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)

Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).

I think I am in this game.

The latter is a fair point (or at least my ego thinks so). I did think Maniac's actions were kind of townie in the moment, moving votes around and looking at reactions, but ultimately with bona flipping town I feel like I know what happens next, and that's a town loss, which leads me to conclude that Maniac did it to ensure a town loss.

[ghug]

The only reason we're still alive is that Maniac briefly decided to forsake the one reads he's had all game in the final moments of the day. Tell me that doesn't look like trying to keep the easy miskills around.

Do you really think you are an easy miskill? I don´t think so, in fact I don´t remember when was the last time you were miskilled (maybe I just have bad memory, don´t have time to dig the bot now)

Anyway, if I were scum and the options are town you and town Bona I would get you killed 10 out of 10 times (no offense Bona).

In fact, the only way I can see Maniac as scum is if he is scum with you Ghug. Then it could make sense.

You don't think a Maniac/Chaqa team makes sense?