Mafia 91 - Battle for the Sunset Strip - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[ghug]

Ghug should know vecna being mafia requires some ultra unrealistic gambit but seems to think it happened anyway

Damo was literally openly claiming scum, and I know he has to be if Glitter isn't.

"Seems to think it happened" is also a totally inaccurate representation.

Who are you to deem a theory unrealistic?

[Vecna]

Very glad to see the deaths. So now people claim their shots and when they shot and why.

Ghug and glitter should be who we decide between today

And this game should be auto now.

How is it auto exactly?

if the remaining mafia has a gun its lylo

[Vecna]

Woah. So not bunny…. And now bb can move on from that witch hunt…. So now that energy is already being directed at me?????!!!!!

But damo was dirty! Yoyo surprises me because I thought for sure with the most recent posts he was but that seemed too obvious. RIP to the town we lost.

Ghug was under suspicions throughout. Going to look back at that. And I’m also curious if we should re-examine the “all-clears”? Gonna dig into this tonight!

okay, this post is giving actual serious scumvibes.

[Vecna]

why the f am i not dead

[Vecna]

I think vecna is fully clear for his role in both voting and claiming to shoot damo

So I dont see any world where town can lose.

We have the numbers and ill go ahead and offer you a chance to finish this one for us

I feel like I was pretty instrumental in killing damo too. And I don't think calling your shot on damo as his teammate would be that bad of a mafia play in that situation.

Pretty sure it's just ##VOTE glitter, though. I shot yoyo, so the Mafia killed Bunny.

or damo shot bunny and the mafia NK was yoyo (or the reverse)

the NK going to either yoyo or bunny just does not make sense when they were under strong suspicion and they knew I was going to be very close to clear.

Maybe they were hoping I was gonna be tunneling on the wrong people?

[Vecna]

mafia killing bunny is weird though, I would have killed anyone else tbh if he was town and I was mafia

Well mafia probably shot bunny and factional killed me. i had a n2 rose and pretended I was a n1 in how I postured my play

taking a gamble on a rose makes no sense.

[Vecna]

They likely wanted a final 4 of vecna-ghug-glitter-spirit and im only a teeny bit surprised that scum damo wouldnt factional kill vecna here

Damo shot yoyo.
Scum factional kill bunny
Ghug has a N3 gun and wins as scum.

Not saying this happened at all, but its a potential path to victory

[Vecna]

and in the above scenario it still makes no sense to kill bunny over me.

Maybe because I stated Ghug is obvtown for how he handled damo.

There is some logic to why they chose the kills the way they did.

Either to sow confusion, or to identify a possible path to a win.

I dont buy that damo would not have instructed glitter that I was gonna be hard to kill, so it cant just have been inexperience since damo was still there in the nightchat.

Maybe they tried to identify which town was more likely to have a N3 gun? I guess that makes sense actually. Bunny always plays for the endgame and if they killed me they would have to deal with a N3 gun.

[Vecna]

Technically we could also vote no kill here and if mafia has a n3 gun they have to use it but that just leads to a likely three way between glitter ghug and vecna anyway.

So its the same today as it would be tomorrow if maf has a gun still.

I think ghug claiming killing yoyo makes sense as either align and he probably really did it as either align

Why the fuck would I kill Yoyo as scum?

this question is indeed flawed.

Im not sure its this black and white, but maybe im just talking myself into seeing the ghug villainy here.

[Vecna]

Since vecna was claiming he would shoot damo
And was also voting damo when you werent this should be obv

thats not true, ghug was instrumental in the damo death.

Which is slightly less impressive if both CW's to worcej were scum.

I guess the key in how much value to attribute to his voting there lies in the strength of his proclaimed read on worcej.

[Vecna]

its too bad actually that glitter didnt claim her shot before ghug.

unless balki or damo shot flav, that wouldve been a balsy fakeclaim to make.

I guess chasing down the gundeaths is a literal dead-end since theres so much unknown information?

[Vecna]

Im sure the entire godthread is facepalming over how obvious this should be, but it really isnt to me.

And im pretty sure that if we kill glitter and were wrong its gameover.

[Vecna]

OK, getting into it and responding to what I missed since I’ve been working.
It was said that Glitter needs to explain how Glitter plays – agreed! And I thought I’ve been doing that. Will continue to do so. Here’s some points to get us going.

The Vecna/me thing identifying as a newbie has been massively overblown. I mentioned in one of my first posts not having played with several of the players that are in this game. And then Vecna came in as an all-caps robot (which I wasn’t expecting because their first post was a non-robotic “yay”) asking for me to identify myself, which is what I did. I also clarified this (myself) in post 91 first thing this morning.

Other Vecna observations… Post 36 raises concerns for me. Why is Vecna stating that Spartaculous’s probability of continued survival are low? It seemed like they were specifically calling out Spartaculous, but it may have been everyone that the comment was directed at despite tagging Sparta’s post? Intriguing to me.

Post 49 could be interpreted as me defending Vecna…. But I was just engaging in conversation with Sparta about Brain’s comment saying that gimmicks can be potential tools.

Post 55 – Spartaculous states that everyone survives D1 and we go into N1 as 14 – is that true? Aren’t we voting someone out during the day and subsequently going into N1 as 13? Am I missing something?

Defending Brain? Maybe a bit, but I’m also usually always looking at every perspective. I agreed with Bunny that I noticed a lack of small talk and that I didn’t necessarily get a scum read out of that because if I did then I’d have to say that about a good chunk of the players in this game who go right into business. Vecna’s assertions that I’m protectively shielding Brain based on those minor comments I made are wild.

I never said people weren't friendly. If anything, just lots of personalities which is to be expected. What frustrates me is the number of inactive folks.

And as far as playing differently based on what I’ve learned in my other games, I’ve been trying to take it all in and adjust, yes. But I also do believe there’s something to be said for gut. My first game I suspected and voted for Eden because of massive amounts of posts and directives. I listened to others and turned my attentions elsewhere and turns out, I was right in the end. So that’s what made me paranoid about Bunny in my second game. He seemed to be posting similarly to how Eden did, so I was wary of it. I was wrong. Also in my second game, Worcej went all mechs heavy. I don’t know if that’s a common thing for folks to do in most games, but I don’t recall it really happening much in my first. The amount of analysis Worcej did made me totally let up my guard on him (for the tiny bit that was maybe remaining suspicious) and turns out he was scum. So I’m hesitant to say that Spartaculous is scum just because of the probability/mechs post. What I’ve been trying to do is group behaviors across players and that doesn’t necessarily seem to be applicable. So that’s what I’ve mainly learned and am using to adjust how I play.

Back to work I go!

this post was originally the reason I was hard townreading glitter.

Critically rereading makes me realize it could also be interpreted as; new scum thinking that being seen as "defending" someone is bad regardless.

I initially read into it as fear of being linked to me, but it might not have been that at all.

There was also genuine happyness when the big wall post resulted into me townreading them.

[Vecna]

balki attacked both damo and ghug over voting yoyo.

Itd be really weird to attack both his teammates over that. And very funny.

[Vecna]

This kind of wagon composition always catches scum:

brainbomb (2) SpiritoftheRadio worcej
FlaviusAetius (2) GlitterBomb Yoyoyozo
Spartaculous (2) Chaqa FlaviusAetius
JustAGuyNamedWill (2) BunnyGo Balki Bartokomous
Yoyoyozo (2) damo666 Spartaculous
SpiritoftheRadio (2) brainbomb ghug
ghug (1) Vecna

this type of joke probably also rings a lot more funny to balki if there is literally zero scum being voted.

Ghug only had a single vote, but still.

[Vecna]

I would have actually preferred a tie in this situation, but given your frustration, I understand. Sorry worcej

It's yoyo/damo lol.

Maybe damo-glitter

Bunny was also pretty vocal about this. And I was pretty vocal about a glitter townread.

Both Ghug and glitter had a more likely path to victory by killing Bunny.

im currently leaning 80-20 glitter/ghug.

[Vecna]

I could see this being a very well played game from scum-ghug, but then he definately had all the right lines to make me townread him instead (both the suspicion during the night of me being lying scum, and even today pretending to be preparing for D4 while he would always have a gun here as surviving scum).

The alternative seems much more likely.

##vote glitter

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.1
GlitterBomb (4) - brainbomb, ghug, SpiritoftheRadio(End), Vecna

Just over 34 hours remain in Day Three.

[brainbomb]

Glitter do you have any hand written notes like you had last game?

[brainbomb]

I mainly gravitated towards Flav because of the inactivity and my thought that if he didn’t post, and was modkilled/daykilled then we had fewer losses.

So you shot him anyway after saying this?