M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

Honestly, your wall post just makes me scum you more Kak.

You sound like frustrated scum.

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Funny, the data supports my beliefs more than your opinion/thoughts.

Don’t worry though - you’re next up anyways.

[worcej]

Honestly, your wall post just makes me scum you more Kak.

You sound like frustrated scum.

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Like, not trying to be rude with this, but I don’t see any value in listening to you. Especially now in the game’s final moments.

You’ve not agreed with me most of this game - both on reads (which I can respect) and also the survey (still don’t respect and think you’re fundamentally wrong). I don’t agree with your reads on damo or bozo right now and you continue to try to ham it up like they are scum when I’ve done the same read through and don’t see it your way. All you’re trying to do is place doubt about where we are at and are focusing on both damo and bozo as possible scum at the same time.

And finally - the flip of heart as scum validates my analysis significantly in my eyes. I don’t see a team that contains heart and the three people I believe to be the remaining town. He pocketed the fuck out of Bona and could’ve just voted you last second to distinguish himself away and against the flip for credit when I was wrong.

[Kakarroto]

Honestly, your wall post just makes me scum you more Kak.

You sound like frustrated scum.

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Funny, the data supports my beliefs more than your opinion/thoughts.

Don’t worry though - you’re next up anyways.

... sure ...

Oh I wish I'd be targeted tonight. That would hopefully finally make you rethink your bias. I wish I'd see your face when I flip town. But mafia will not be so stupid as to target me tonight.

[Kakarroto]

Honestly, your wall post just makes me scum you more Kak.

You sound like frustrated scum.

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Like, not trying to be rude with this, but I don’t see any value in listening to you. Especially now in the game’s final moments.

You’ve not agreed with me most of this game - both on reads (which I can respect) and also the survey (still don’t respect and think you’re fundamentally wrong). I don’t agree with your reads on damo or bozo right now and you continue to try to ham it up like they are scum when I’ve done the same read through and don’t see it your way. All you’re trying to do is place doubt about where we are at and are focusing on both damo and bozo as possible scum at the same time.

And finally - the flip of heart as scum validates my analysis significantly in my eyes. I don’t see a team that contains heart and the three people I believe to be the remaining town. He pocketed the fuck out of Bona and could’ve just voted you last second to distinguish himself away and against the flip for credit when I was wrong.

If you don't want to listen to me, listen to bona or RD about the survey.

Also why, why the heck would I change my mind and stop pressuring you D3 when I noticed that you are probably the dog. That makes no sense if I'd be mafia in that situation, I'd just put more pressure on you hoping you would spill the beans.

*sigh*

You didn't even had any doubts about bozo not showing up.

Gah. I can't with you. I just can't. Enjoy the feeling of being correct because this will stop as soon as you are either removed or the game ends. Have a nice evening.

[worcej]

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Funny, the data supports my beliefs more than your opinion/thoughts.

Don’t worry though - you’re next up anyways.

... sure ...

Oh I wish I'd be targeted tonight. That would hopefully finally make you rethink your bias. I wish I'd see your face when I flip town. But mafia will not be so stupid as to target me tonight.

Trust me, the face would be one of disappointment and annoyance at being wrong. It’s a face I have made MANY times in mafia games lol

[worcej]

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Like, not trying to be rude with this, but I don’t see any value in listening to you. Especially now in the game’s final moments.

You’ve not agreed with me most of this game - both on reads (which I can respect) and also the survey (still don’t respect and think you’re fundamentally wrong). I don’t agree with your reads on damo or bozo right now and you continue to try to ham it up like they are scum when I’ve done the same read through and don’t see it your way. All you’re trying to do is place doubt about where we are at and are focusing on both damo and bozo as possible scum at the same time.

And finally - the flip of heart as scum validates my analysis significantly in my eyes. I don’t see a team that contains heart and the three people I believe to be the remaining town. He pocketed the fuck out of Bona and could’ve just voted you last second to distinguish himself away and against the flip for credit when I was wrong.

If you don't want to listen to me, listen to bona or RD about the survey.

Also why, why the heck would I change my mind and stop pressuring you D3 when I noticed that you are probably the dog. That makes no sense if I'd be mafia in that situation, I'd just put more pressure on you hoping you would spill the beans.

*sigh*

You didn't even had any doubts about bozo not showing up.

Gah. I can't with you. I just can't. Enjoy the feeling of being correct because this will stop as soon as you are either removed or the game ends. Have a nice evening.

You argue from a position of nothing that can be proven, I just have to trust you. And I don’t trust you, so… sorry? Perhaps next time I am adamantly arguing a mechanical position you should side with me? Lol

Anyways: You backing off of me could be entirely because fisch was pretty heavy handed in signaling me and following me, thus trying to buy some credit. I could also see scum!kak pushing for the NK on Bo, since my save should obviously be there and then we’d have two PRs alive on MiLo probably arguing against each other and potentially splitting the town. Also, of note, can also see GF!Chaqa supporting this move over killing me outright too.

[Chaqa]

Honestly, your wall post just makes me scum you more Kak.

You sound like frustrated scum.

I sound frustrated because until this flip just now, everything went bad for town. It also takes so much energy talking to you when you are convinced I'm mafia even when I'm not, when you argue from a point of belief not a point of data.

I'm also sad that it wasn't the godfather so chaqa isn't cleared.

But lets see how this looks on the different vote rallies.

Funny, the data supports my beliefs more than your opinion/thoughts.

Don’t worry though - you’re next up anyways.

I won't vote for Kak tomorrow.

[Chaqa]

Bozo looks bad with the heart flip IMO.

[worcej]

Bozo looks bad with the heart flip IMO.

How?

[President Eden]

for the bot

DAY HAS ENDED EARLY

[President Eden]

DEADLINE MOVED 24H EARLIER

[Chaqa]

##vote Kak
I'm leaning the way of the survey is a good thing in the interest of general info gain even if earlier I wasn't sure exactly how we'd use the info

I kinda think heart, being new to mafia, would never vote for teammate Kak like this way. Just reinforces my town!Kak read.

[Chaqa]

Brings my PoE down to Bozo, Damo, Lfischl.

I'm going to dig a bit more tomorrow and see if I can figure out anything.

[bozotheclown]

@heartthrob, nice job as mafia, I did not suspect you until damo and lfischl demonstrating they were town and bo_sox indicating he was the cop confirmed you as mafia by POE.

[bozotheclown]

There is no surprise heartthrob flipped goon, as Chaqa must be the GF.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo looks bad with the heart flip IMO.

While it is possible damo and/or lfischl managed to pull off what they did as mafia, I have to assume they are town.

By EOD, I thought Bonatogether was probably town, which is why I was suspecting a Chaqa/Kakarroto/bo_sox scum team. However, it now seems heartthrob had me fooled and the scum team is Chaqa/Kakarroto/heartthrob.

[bozotheclown]

D1 final vote

BunnyGo (4): Bonatogether, bozotheclown, celaph, lfischl
Chaqa (2): ghug, damo666
ghug (2): Kakarroto, heartthrob24909
damo666 (1): Chaqa
celaph (1): rdrivera2005
bo_sox48 (1): BunnyGo

D2 final vote

celaph (5): Bonatogether, bo_sox48, bozotheclown, heartthrob24909, worcej
bozotheclown (4): rdrivera2005, Kakarroto, lfischl, Chaqa
Chaqa (1): damo666
damo666 (1): celaph

D3 final vote

Bonatogether (5): worcej, lfischl, bo_sox48, bozotheclown, damo666
damo666 (2): Chaqa, Bonatogether
bo_sox48 (1): Kakarroto
Kakarroto (1): heartthrob24909

D4 final vote (I think)

heartthrob (5): worcej*, damo666*, Kakarroto, Chaqa*, lfischl*

not voted: bozo, heartthrob

I find it hard to think that only 1 scum voted out celaph there

Why? It was town vs. town, one mafia on celaph, two on me (Chaqa and Kakarroto).

[Chaqa]

Bozo looks bad with the heart flip IMO.

While it is possible damo and/or lfischl managed to pull off what they did as mafia, I have to assume they are town.

By EOD, I thought Bonatogether was probably town, which is why I was suspecting a Chaqa/Kakarroto/bo_sox scum team. However, it now seems heartthrob had me fooled and the scum team is Chaqa/Kakarroto/heartthrob.

I'm more looking at VCA.

[bozotheclown]

We haven't heard anything from bozo or heartthrob yet this phase and lfischl only dropped one line about what he thought worcej would do at night.

This is one of the, if not the, most important phase of the game right now. Do you all three not have to say more?

-) What are your thoughts about damo?
-) Do you think Chaqa sacrifices his tell this way?
-) What is your opinion of someone who maf-read someone heavily, then noticing a line during a phase where they think that someone might be PR and then tries to signal to not voting for that someone again?

Do you have open questions for the other living players?

Sorry Christmas + relatives are here
##vote heart
##end

I do not know if you have had time to review D3, but it is clear the mafia did not know worcej was the doctor, and that you, me, and damo confirming we knew worcej was the doctor after scanning him essentially proved we are town, outside of an elaborate scum ploy that the mafia would be unlikely to attempt or be able to pull off.

The following posts shows the mis-kills the mafia were going for:

To summarize what Chaqa, Kakarroto, and heartthrob said D3, this was what they were suggesting as the mafia team:

Chaqa: bozo, damo, worcej/bo_sox
Kakarroto: worcej, bozo, bo_sox
heartthrob: worcej, bozo, damo/Chaqa

[Chaqa]

Bozo, why do you discount Damo as mafia?

IF you are town. And that's a big if, then IMO the remaining mafia are Damo an Lfischl.

Has Lfischl ever confirmed he knew worcej was the dog?