MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

I would

I believe this is true, but I am not sure you had that option.

You don't think I'd take scum because the expectation is that I wouldn't?

That is getting into WIFOM.

[Maniac]

My overall town winrate is higher than rdrivera, maniac, ghug, vash, xorxes, worcej, bozo and balki

Why so defensive BB? Has someone said you're not a good player. I think your one of the most highly regarded players on here regardless of the stats.

Also have I really played 30 games. Seems like half of that, but then I often get eliminated early.

[kgray]

in this post, they were claiming Vecna claimed Demon was scum. Something so easily verifiable, either a mistake, and error, or just haphazard play.
How scum-Indicative is it? I don't really know. I do know that errors like that have sent me to the block.

Errors you made when you were town?

Yeah; inconsistencies, bad memory leading to posting something patently untrue, etc.

Okay, then if you know that you've done similar things as town, why do you scumread lfishl for doing them?

[brainbomb]

besides SK is just a vig that has bad manners

[brainbomb]

My overall town winrate is higher than rdrivera, maniac, ghug, vash, xorxes, worcej, bozo and balki

Why so defensive BB? Has someone said you're not a good player. I think your one of the most highly regarded players on here regardless of the stats.

Also have I really played 30 games. Seems like half of that, but then I often get eliminated early.

im over it. but yes. I was attacked

[kgray]

HR can you talk more please? What reads do you have so far?

[celaph]

Reread lfischl. There is like almost nothing there, quite literally. I am not overly opposed to a dk on him because of it. His ghug vote was definitely strange, but I think he may have been another person who didn't pay close attention to the setup. Overall a rather weird lurky energy, scumlean.

Town lean Bob both for this post and his other 'reread' posts. The effort is real and he looks interested in finding the truth.

Turning around a question you asked me previously: Do you think effort like this is hard to fake? Do you think it is town indicative?

Short term hard to fake, no. Longer term hard to fake, yes. And I think I'm appreciating that the more I play with you all.

My last group often played games with <10 people with activity levels that made me a high poster. I could rather easily keep high activity as both scum and town so it didn't strike me as AI. Last game when my activity dipped I felt like I was acting scummier and I was certainly less solvey. Makes me think that there is some truth to the statement.

[ghug]

I believe this is true, but I am not sure you had that option.

You don't think I'd take scum because the expectation is that I wouldn't?

That is getting into WIFOM.

Right, which is why I'm surprised you took it at face value to begin with.

[brainbomb]

Yea tbh HR feels alot more sedated and less carefree this game. almost measured

[kgray]

Yea tbh HR feels alot more sedated and less carefree this game. almost measured

That's how I always think he feels early, and he's not usually super active D1. I've never seen him as scum though so idk if there's a difference.

[bozotheclown]

Am I wrong in my assumption that usually scum don't know each other's actual roles until they can talk in scumchat? Because if not, then Maniac is really sus here.

I do not remember any game where I was scum that I did not know the roles of other scum on D1.

Xorxes and I were your teammates. You were a traitor who didn't know us. You were the only one pushing me (correctly) the whole game.

The was a unique case, since I did not even know the identity of my scum teammates. I meant I think I have always known my teammates roles when I had a typical mafia role.

[kgray]

@ghug do you like where your vote is?

[brainbomb]

its been ages since ive seen HR roll maf. he prefers town and I think finds town much more natural.

[brainbomb]

hmm rdrivera vs maniac looks like a strange wagon. didnt rivera do that last two games in a row?

[damo666]

The most interesting thing from the text IMO is damo hardclaiming miller from very early in the phase.

I believe he's the one who said both of his role PM's were "identical cards". When I looked through the setup the only possible roles for that would be VT+miller/Tentacle.

Why would someone claim this?

I think you've misunderstood their posts. Granted, damo was confused for half of them.

Confused maybe. But "identical" in fucking quotes?

The man has no credibility as a witness whatsoever.

[brainbomb]

lfischl (4) ghug kgray Donny Dude Hamilton Brian
Unvote (2) DemonRHK BunnyGo
DemonRHK (2) jasnah BobMcBob
bozotheclown (2) damo666 Macca573
brainbomb (1) Maniac
Maniac (1) rdrivera2005
damo666 (1) Vecna
rdrivera2005 (1) bozotheclown
Hamilton Brian (1) Bonatogether
No‑Kill (1) Ezio
Macca573 (1) lfischl
BunnyGo (1) brainbomb


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celaph
e.m.c^42
Hellenic Riot

[brainbomb]

bona you wanted someone high profile to die.
join me on bunny

[damo666]

Seemed fun.

Also I like making scum lie about things before they get a chance to talk to their teammates.

I don't really understand why you think anyone has a motivation to lie about their discard, though. Let's say the scum team(s) discuss their discards tonight... What's the benefit? Player X can now say they made Player Y's discard and Player Y can say they made Player X's discard? What has the scum team gained from such a discussion?

Not everyone is smart.

That's the intriguing thing about this game. One has to account for non-optimal play.

[ghug]

@ghug do you like where your vote is?

He's done absolutely morning to change my mind, and he doesn't appear likely to be any use to us if he is town, so I'm content for the time being.

[brainbomb]

On d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.

You barely even know me or my playstyle or meta. Nobody has this opinion of me. The only person who actually thinks like this is maybe flash. What are you basing this on? it just feels like you randomly decided based on one game that Im a great elim option

This is missing my point. You're not a good early dk target because of your playstyle last game - you're a good early dk target because you flipping gives us a lot of info on a lot of people. I'd put ghug, kgray, bunny, and maybe donny in this category, off the top of my head.

youve gone away from alot of these names bona. Why is that?