Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[FlaviusAetius]

Excuse me? Easy lynches? Who determines scumminess on the basis of the easiness of lynches. That is not a consideration. It also clearly can't be that easy as some fuckers wanted bozo.

I can't fathom how you can think I'm scummy after that EoD. I also can't fathom how you think what I said is scummy. So now I'm under the impression that you are straight up lying, and saying whatever bullshit you want as long as it's contrary to my position.

At this point, Chippe is just saying things that are blatantly false. He's taking actions that are not scummy or AI and scum reading people for them. This is very deceitful behaviour. And coupled with his earlier antics which were incredibly deceitful, I don't know how we can justify not lynching him.

Scum would want to blend in - voting for lynches that a lot of people can agree to without questioning is something scum would do.

Oh yeah because my push on Neph was so indicative of my desire to blend in. Just shut up you lying scummy asshole. Go talk to your scum friends and leave us alone so we can figure out the game. Lord knows if you're somehow town you'll never be able to do it.

In fact - I've seen no indication of your desire to game solve beyond your vitriol at other players for apparently not game solving. You point fingers and claim someone is scummy for actions that are actually either townie or NAI. And that's all you've "contributed".

All he's contributed?? WHAT?
He tried getting TrPrado lynched, something you did not want to jump on
Could you explain why you didnt join the momentum on that wagon?
Which COULD of prevented bozo from dying

[Tom Bombadil]

FYI tie votes are terrible for town.

[FlaviusAetius]

People asked for an explanation on my early Bozo push:
It definitely wasn't the lurking, as I understand people have real lives to get to, but when bozo did come in, he led with a naked vote, and an insistence that his only read was that Chippe was scum, when Chippe was a popular wagon. It was the ultimate safe vote for Bozo to make, and made him present without actually adding anything. Tunnels also break games, and imo are scum indicative, as the person is "Catching scum" while really only drawing attention to one desired target. He seemed scum later when People were ignoring him for most of the thread, even while pushing on Moscow for being lurky. Towards the end, Bozo makes a post or two from town perspective, but I read those After I knew he was town, and didn't see them real time anyways.

So why didnt you ever change?

[FlaviusAetius]

FYI tie votes are terrible for town.

I understand, I just want him to explain why he specifically voted so late, Im pretty sure I saw him on bottom of thread too

[xorxes]

really what's worth looking for is people who are posting just enough to avoid the lurker label, but not really committing anything in terms of behavior (i.e., hunting) or opinions (i.e., reads when we get to that stage of the game). the problem with a huge game like this is that there's so much room to lurk that it's hard to find.

This explains everything of why we shouldnt be going after bozo.
There's so much room to lurk guys, if hes been lurking, we can force him to talk later, lets get someone whose been talking
I say TrPrado

@Balki (and other people that were voting for Flavius) does scum!Flavius try to get people to move off of his main counterwagon?

[FlaviusAetius]

And let's not talk about deceitful.

You stated you didn't have the time and couldn't be bothered with making reads on the other players. All of your messages were very shallow and weren't about making reads or helping town at all. Than, in the last couple of hours, you suddenly make a read on Neph - clearly trying to get a lynch on him, hoping that the last-minuteness of it would attract voters who would be voting under pressure from the time.

Please tell us why you couldn't be bothered to make a read in the first 46 hours of the day, but in the last 2 hours of the day, you made a read and finally started pushing to lynch that person you read. What was wrong with simply making your reads earlier in the day? Why did you only make 1 read? And why did you only decide to make that 1 read near the end of the day?

@Durga, curious you just ignored this post. Would you like to address it?

Didn't see it. I don't like to be super active d1 because I went through a series of games of being nk'd early on and it's boring when it's like that. But then I found scum and got too excited. I didn't "decide" to only do a read later on, I just finally found a person who's actually scummy.

Now you've seen bozo flip town. I tried to do a last minute lynch on Neph. Why the FUCK would I do that as scum when I could be pretty confident that town would flip. And it appears you think Flav is also town. So when it's town v town wtf would I gain from a third wagon.

Either learn how to think about the game or stop engaging me. It's a waste of my time. The way you word things is so deceitful. Your d1 antics were nothing but deceitful. Just because you curse and yell at people and act abrasive all game doesn't make you useful

Last mintue switch on Nephtys??
His wagon had ZERO momentum, me and bozo's were alredy at 6, at least TrPrado had 4, and we had time, and evidence already on the table to switch to him, if you switched to him we have 5 versus 7 on bozo, and then the momentum switches, but no instead you do useless Nepthys stuff and try to get me lynched

[xorxes]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

The obvious answer is, to look towny. The question is whether Flavius in particular would do something like that as scum.

[Tom Bombadil]

I mean my response is that TrPrado was just as much a counter wagon as bozo considering myself and others cast suspicion on Prado but we currently not knowing him - so I think pushing a Prado Lynch there would have been an astute scum play.

That being said, I’m questioning whether or not Flav would make such a decision or if I’m transposing my thoughts onto him

[ChippeRock]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

The obvious answer is, to look towny. The question is whether Flavius in particular would do something like that as scum.

Sure, but he's a new player. I think his aggressive defense of me (probably due to my part in helping him avoid getting mislynched) really drives the point home that he's clearly town.

[ChippeRock]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

The obvious answer is, to look towny. The question is whether Flavius in particular would do something like that as scum.

Sure, but he's a new player. I think his aggressive defense of me (probably due to my part in helping him avoid getting mislynched) really drives the point home that he's clearly town.

Additionally, he really started aggressively going after people & looking for scum immediately right after Night started. Clearly not coordinated with any potential scum buddies - since there just wasn't enough time between the beginning of Night and when he started calling out people. Even if he is scum, someone needs to start calling out all of these lurkers - literally 1/3 of the people in this game haven't contributed anything to this game, including yourself.

[Tom Bombadil]

God you are insufferable

[Durga]

This is giving me flashbacks of the game where ghug and bozo and rdr were scum and everyone was calling damo super scummy other than those three who were like HE'S SOOOO OBV TOWN bc they knew he was town

[TrPrado]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

The obvious answer is, to look towny. The question is whether Flavius in particular would do something like that as scum.

Sure, but he's a new player. I think his aggressive defense of me (probably due to my part in helping him avoid getting mislynched) really drives the point home that he's clearly town.

Flavius isn’t new. He’s said this is like his third game here.

[Durga]

God you are insufferable

If you stop reading his posts the game gets a lot better

[xorxes]

Just realized Xorxes never finished those reads he promised. There are too many people getting lost in the void of this game.

I only managed to read Prado and then I went to sleep. I came away with a weak townlean and nothing more. I'm still planning on reading you and Fox next, if I have time, but just catching up is taking me ages.

[FlaviusAetius]

Honestly Chippe, I'm no longer wasting my time responding to you. Bye

Don't address it than. But I hope others will take note and ask you about it.

Noted. @Durga answer please

[Durga]

Honestly Chippe, I'm no longer wasting my time responding to you. Bye

Don't address it than. But I hope others will take note and ask you about it.

Noted. @Durga answer please

Stop being his bitch. I'm not answering the same garbage questions over and over

[TrPrado]

Don't address it than. But I hope others will take note and ask you about it.

Noted. @Durga answer please

Stop being his bitch. I'm not answering the same garbage questions over and over

+1

[ND]

God, so much to say, so much to respond too, Jesus Christ. What a clusterfuck of incompetence, inept retards, and fucking morons at EOD. Wow.

Caught up on my nightly reading of 30 pages or so and will respond shortly.

[Carl Tuckerson]

God, so much to say, so much to respond too, Jesus Christ. What a clusterfuck of incompetence, inept retards, and fucking morons at EOD. Wow.

Caught up on my nightly reading of 30 pages or so and will respond shortly.

Why do you even play when this game so clearly makes you miserable?

This is giving me flashbacks of the game where ghug and bozo and rdr were scum and everyone was calling damo super scummy other than those three who were like HE'S SOOOO OBV TOWN bc they knew he was town

Can you analogize that to this game for me since I wasn't around for whatever game this was?