MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[damo666]

Four people moved to Koala after Eden went 5-3 up, namely snowy Dousing bozo and rdr. If Eden was being saved there is almost certainly at least 1 scum in that 4. Snowy and Dousing were on Eden so maybe slightly less likely than the other pair.

Revised thoughts

If Eden is scum then the other pair is one of {sweet, Bona} plus one from {snowy, Dousing, bozo, rdr} or both from latter group.

If Eden is not scum then one or two of {sweet, Bona} plus one or two from {Jamie, Chaqa} plus none or 1 from {bozo, Dousing, rdr, snowy}

[rdrivera2005]

Why? I'm only looking at the final count, but considering the landslide it seems likely that at least one mafia would have been clever enough to vote away from Koala.

I will look closer at the lead up to EoD to get a better understanding of what happened, but that's my preliminary conclusion.

You may have a point.

I've thought about this some more. If Eden is scum I very much doubt Chaqa or Jamie is.

Current thinking Eden plus 2 from {sweet, Bona, X} where X is one of {Dousing, bozo, rdr, snowy}

OR

3 from {sweet, Bona, Y} where Y is X plus Jamie and Chaqa.

I think tomorrow should be between Eden Bona and sweet assuming they all survive the night (I expect the NK to be me, rdr, bozo or possibly Dousing).

Damo, I think you are town and I need to understand your reasons to clear Chaqa and Snowy (at some extent). Right now I have both as scum.

Tomorrow it will be mylo and we need to consolidate somehow because there is little margin for town not voting together.

[Jamiet99uk]

Good day.

I see that I have 10 pages to catch up with.

RIP Koala.

I can't criticise people for flipping Koala, because he was in my scumpool too. I would however like to see why there was so little support for the Eden wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok see here: viewtopic.php?p=337350#p337350 (quote truncated as it's monstrously long)

The two parts I mention in my post above.

<SNIP very long wall post>

Now tell me, why is Koala town?

Point to consider: Would scum!snowy make this much effort to mis-kill town Koala?

[Jamiet99uk]

Now what happens if I switch to Koala...

Koala votes Chaqa in self-pres

Chaqa votes back in return

Jamiet and Dousing are left as free agents...

This game has too few moving parts. I guess chicken it is

Describing me as a "free agent" in this scenario implies you were confident the President Eden wagon would not go anywhere.

Hmm.

[Jamiet99uk]

I still prefer Chaqa as the DK today, but I will be online at EOD.

Bozo: You said this with about 25 to 30 mins left before EoD.

Then at the deadline, you moved to Koala.

Your move was part of a flurry of moves that saw the Chaqa wagon evaporate in the final minute of the day.

Discuss.

[Jamiet99uk]

A Vote Count:
KoalaAttack (4) Bonatogether, damo666*, sweetandcool, Dousing
Chaqa (3) bozotheclown, President Eden, rdrivera2005
President Eden (3) snowy801, Jamiet99uk, Chaqa
snowy801 (1) KoalaAttack

15 minutes left

This vote count at 15 minutes left is worth bookmarking.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also why are there only 3/11 players present during EoD???

It was Saturday night. I was in a riverside cocktail bar with some lovely friends.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE President Eden

When I die read my posts the answers are there

At a party see you all in the God threat

shit there's a tie

Now is this reaction actually "shit there's a tie"?

Or is it "shit, my team-mate Eden is in danger"?

[sweetandcool]

##VOTE President Eden

When I die read my posts the answers are there

At a party see you all in the God threat

shit there's a tie

Now is this reaction actually "shit there's a tie"?

Or is it "shit, my team-mate Eden is in danger"?

How often do people make actual scumslips like that?

I just don't see any reason to believe the reaction is anything other than what it seems.

[damo666]

You may have a point.

I've thought about this some more. If Eden is scum I very much doubt Chaqa or Jamie is.

Current thinking Eden plus 2 from {sweet, Bona, X} where X is one of {Dousing, bozo, rdr, snowy}

OR

3 from {sweet, Bona, Y} where Y is X plus Jamie and Chaqa.

I think tomorrow should be between Eden Bona and sweet assuming they all survive the night (I expect the NK to be me, rdr, bozo or possibly Dousing).

Damo, I think you are town and I need to understand your reasons to clear Chaqa and Snowy (at some extent). Right now I have both as scum.

Tomorrow it will be mylo and we need to consolidate somehow because there is little margin for town not voting together.

Chaqa's late D1 votes T->T->T make no sense as scum.
Snowy is more feel but less confident he's town than Chaqa.

[damo666]

shit there's a tie

Now is this reaction actually "shit there's a tie"?

Or is it "shit, my team-mate Eden is in danger"?

How often do people make actual scumslips like that?

I just don't see any reason to believe the reaction is anything other than what it seems.

Agree.

[Jamiet99uk]

I would like to see Dousing and Snowy discuss this chain of interactions in the last few minutes of EoD:

I just wanna flip Koala more than I wanna flip Eden

Then again, Eden is probably a lot more useless than Koala

##VOTE Eden

##VOTE Eden

Oh wait wait wait go back

##vote Koala

##Vote koala

OH MY GOD SNOWY!!!

I have some thoughts but I'd like to see Dousing and Snowy's comments first.

(Note that if you have discussed this, forgive me, I'm getting to it - I've read up to "PLEASE HOLD" at EoD, currently)

[Jamiet99uk]

bozo vote

Bozo had voted. Why were you hectoring him to vote?

The total collapse of the Chaqa wagon is part of the puzzle in my view, and here you were, Bona, hustling Bozo to move off Chaqa.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote koala

you're next

Interesting remark since you sat squarely on Koala while President Eden was the main rival wagon at the end.

[Jamiet99uk]

I am around and will break the tie voting Koala if needed. Not because I think he is scum but because at this point it's better to flip him then Eden.

Why did you think that?

This implies you had Eden as a strong townread.

Why is that so?

Have your views changed since EoD?

[Jamiet99uk]

If I was just looking at EoD 2 in isolation my scumpool would be:

President Eden
Chaqa
Snowy
Dousing
Rdrivera

President Eden voting Koala in the final second of the phase, having not posted for around 6 hours, is..... a thing that happened.

[Chaqa]

Jamie, this is the second or third time you’ve been missing a piece of known information. Why aren’t you actually reading the thread?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie, this is the second or third time you’ve been missing a piece of known information. Why aren’t you actually reading the thread?

I am catching up, Chaqa, as you should have noticed.

But sure, bring me up to speed, what is the "known information" that I may not have read yet?

[Jamiet99uk]

Or, you know, shade me and call me an idiot and then log out. Whichever.