Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I dont have any scumreads though.

Kgray and Ifischl are non-voteable town.

The rest I can vote for with low confidence of being right.

Was hoping to see some good participation from certain players so I had more to work with here.

[Vecna]

And why are you voting Vecna?

Maybe go and read and see if you can find the answer.

Fuck it, I'll do it for you.

Vecna parked a "placeholder" vote on me, and I'm low-key offended, so I'm doing the same to him.

So he's playing in some tournament? What, is it a live game? Surely if he has time to be online on another part of the site he can also check in here occasionally? It's not like there's much for him to catch up on!

Why arent you partaking in the tour of britain. Its the biggest online (live, via discord as a f2f replacement) dip tournament.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe go and read and see if you can find the answer.

Fuck it, I'll do it for you.

Vecna parked a "placeholder" vote on me, and I'm low-key offended, so I'm doing the same to him.

So he's playing in some tournament? What, is it a live game? Surely if he has time to be online on another part of the site he can also check in here occasionally? It's not like there's much for him to catch up on!

Why arent you partaking in the tour of britain. Its the biggest online (live, via discord as a f2f replacement) dip tournament.

Firstly, I despise Discord.

Secondly, I do not know what the "Tour of Britain" is. I think it may be the name of a cycle race, but I assume you mean it's some kind of Diplomacy tournment. Whatever, I was not aware of it.

Thirdly, seriously, fuck Discord.

[Jamiet99uk]

Kgray and Ifischl are non-voteable town.

Why is Kgray locktown for you?

[Jamiet99uk]

Come on Vecna you have 2.33 hours. I'm slightly drunk (a friend's birthday party, Zoom drinks) but I'm here to work with you if you want to solve the game here. Talk to me.

[Vecna]

##vote Rdrivera

I probably prefer this slightly over Jamiet. Darg and Rdrivera are somewhat interchangeable for me here in that they just arent as towny as the rest and have not given me any strong indications that I usually get from them. Rdrivera did have some D3 when engaging with Kgray, but this was after a lot of weird stuff going on. I still do not completely get how he suddenly 180'd his opinion of Kgrays alignment.

One of them is probably the vig doing a little play here, and ill let em do what they want, but I feel that whichever of them isnt the vig has the most likelyhood of being the last scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Unvote.

[Vecna]

Come on Vecna you have 2.33 hours. I'm slightly drunk (a friend's birthday party, Zoom drinks) but I'm here to work with you if you want to solve the game here. Talk to me.

Ive also been drinking man. I have a headache and that good old diplomacy session brainfog.

Sounds like the perfect circumstance to solve this shit.

[Vecna]

im gonna get a glass of water, some painkillers, some snacks and some more booze.

and then see if I can chunk this shit

[Vecna]

You better still be around as well Kgray

[Jamiet99uk]

im gonna get a glass of water, some painkillers, some snacks and some more booze.

and then see if I can chunk this shit

Attaboy. Just like the old days.

[Vecna]

Heinz totato ketchup flavoured Lays chips. The king of the snacks

[kgray]

Alright, I reread (well, skimmed) bozo and Durga. I actually don't think anyone here is that scummy so it mostly comes down to POE. I can't really do much more than this tonight, and I'm playing Dip again tomorrow so will probably be similarly not around/engaged if this is still going on... But here's some things I find relevant.

So Vecna's my #1 townread at this point, and I think lfischl is very similar to his last town game and also I think he was targeted by durga as a potential easy miskill D2. Nothing I saw in rereading changed that, and I'm not voting either of them today.

Wait I don't think I know anything about ifischl. I'm not sure why brain asked such a vague question but at least we can narrow it down some. Unfortunately it was town v town at the end there but jamie/bozo may be scum if anyone was saved a group of 5 is pretty worthless in a game this size

On top of Rivera's point about Durga not bussing, I don't think she points to both her teammates getting saved, especially when she herself was blatantly saved. So townpoints for Jamie.

Interesting how Damo wagon grew fast.

i don't like this comment because it doesn't take a stance on how you feel about the damo wagon growing like that

This is the comment that I thought Durga wouldn't make about her teammate, especially when Rivera was staying on damo when he could have voted Durga. It doesn't really make sense for Durga to bring attention to this if he's her scum partner.

Durga interacted with darg very little, and nothing I found made me think he couldn't be her teammate...

Blind to what, Jamie's case against kgray? I understand his case, but I can also see a town motivation for the things he finds suspicious.

What do you think kgray's scum motivation was for getting damo DKed?

Blind to the suspicious nature of her actions/words. It does not seem to me that you are just 'also' seeing a town motivation. But that you do not see the scum motivation.

Am I missing something? Does scum need additional "Scum Motivation" for a miss day kill? Would she need anything else but that?

I don't think scum usually go out of their way to lead a DK unless they have a reason to get rid of that player. It is possible kgray didn't expect damo's wagon to take off, though.

This was bozo's only interaction with darg except for a comment about QA math D1. Bozo didn't interact with Rivera about anything except a curling joke and QA math. I don't think bozo argues with his partner Jamie about whether or not I'm scummy for my Damo vote.

Overall, I get mostly normal town!Rivera vibes except his misguided push on me yesterday, but Vecna thought that was towny so maybe I'm just frustrated he doesn't want me to be his spokesperson this game. Darg is flying under the radar, which I didn't really expect regardless of his alignment, but I think that the way bozo and durga interacted with other people is more clearing for them than anything I've seen from him.

So I think I'm going to ##vote darg. I'll be sort of around the rest of tonight.

[Vecna]

Whats your voting top3 Jamiet? Do you have any scumreads besides Kgray? Is she still a scumread after the whole durga stuff and how she handled it?

[Vecna]

you saved that wall in a word doc just to dump it when I arrived didnt you Kgray?

[kgray]

Durga did only address me one time (outside of bot stuff.) And she did the same with lfischl. Only once. In The same manner that she talked about me. After I brought up their silence.

Kind of weird that you're drawing this parallel between yourself and lfischl but then voting lfischl?

[kgray]

Four hours remain.

Kgray has not voted and has bizarrely dropped in participation.
Ifischl hasn't voted either.
Vecna planted a joke vote on me and has vanished.

What the fuck is going on here?

Sigh

Let's just do a speed wagon on Kgray and win the game....

If I have to actually defend against this I will, but there's literally no way I'm scum with bozo and Durga lmao

[lfischl]

Sigh

Let's just do a speed wagon on Kgray and win the game....

If I have to actually defend against this I will, but there's literally no way I'm scum with bozo and Durga lmao

to be honest Im starting to lean that way as well. Its down to vecna and rdr for me.

[kgray]

Im deciding between vecna kgray and rdr I think.

Oh god. I think you're town but please don't lose the game for us.

[kgray]

you saved that wall in a word doc just to dump it when I arrived didnt you Kgray?

lmao no, but I didn't see that you'd picked Rivera and that was kind of a bummer...