M76 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Rumi Tobari]

##VOTE No‑Kill

Why?

Seeing three votes for no-kill got me back here instead of sleeping. My vote was just kinda parked there because Sabi said to do that just in case I couldn't be back by EOD.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE No‑Kill

Why?

Just in case I don't make it back, but I plan to vote for someone before EOD.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE No‑Kill

Why?

Seeing three votes for no-kill got me back here instead of sleeping. My vote was just kinda parked there because Sabi said to do that just in case I couldn't be back by EOD.

There is no hurry with the hammer mechanism in place.

[Princess Neon]

There is always a hurry

[Princess Neon]

I don't understand the fear of hammer here lol

[bozotheclown]

I don't understand the fear of hammer here lol

I know it is not very likely, but if a town players reaches 7 votes today, a mafia could hammer them.

[damo666]

@GM

If paladin casts a no kill vote would that count (and be reported as) 2 votes for no kill?

[Rumi Tobari]

Why?

Seeing three votes for no-kill got me back here instead of sleeping. My vote was just kinda parked there because Sabi said to do that just in case I couldn't be back by EOD.

There is no hurry with the hammer mechanism in place.

##VOTE No‑Kill

Why?

Seeing three votes for no-kill got me back here instead of sleeping. My vote was just kinda parked there because Sabi said to do that just in case I couldn't be back by EOD.

Was less of a hurry and more of I came back because I saw the bot and thought it somehow became some kind of serious thing? And wanted to ask if there was a logical reason to no-kill. Also the kind of situations and scenarios where no kill would be a good play? Is it an actual thing here, why are we thinking it might be a good thing here?

I don't really understand what no kill means strategically beyond having on strong reads. I was curious what was happening.

[Rumi Tobari]

oww quotes and copy pasta, giant migraines and brain hurting from supersleepy.

[rdrivera2005]

I got excited during my catchup when I saw that bozo posted and then I read it and my reaction is...there's just not enough there. I'm left wanting more. I explained it more clearly in my wallpost.

Damo feels like damo. Granted I haven't seen scum!damo before. But I'm just getting big "we're miskilling damo again" vibes.

Can you explain those vibes

me from D1

- @sabi, I believe damo when he says does not want to die D1, last game (M75) he died for being afk so like this might just be a reaction to that death and him wanting to play this time

- I feel like I'm confusing damo and darg's names a lot
- +1 to don't post about "vote lurkers" if you're not willing to put up your own vote
- 0% of me wants to kill damo again D1 but y'all are correct about gambler's fallacy

if he's scum I don't think he cares as much on D1, like I think he tries to just ignore a few votes for himself rather than defending

if he's town, well, I believe how he acted and since D1

you on N1

I only voted Bona for a couple of hours before switching to damo and that lasted till eod and then I went bozo.

I also always vote bona at every start of game. It's tradition

damo wagon peaked at a kinda weak 3 votes from you bona and demon

since then you and Demon both walked away from him

God-fucking-0dammit. RIP brain.

##Vote damo

Time to pay the piper.

into

Xpost. Yep demon is town. Misguided, but town.

...
grrrr

I'm tunneling, I have to stop
##Unvote

I really doubt that you're both scum and were trying to get damo miskilled on D1. Because there's no one else to blame besides Bona if he does indeed get miskilled and flips town D1, and if theoretically you two would know Bona is town...you get the idea. It would be a strictly bad play.

That leaves 1 scum or 0 scum trying to kill damo. I think you're town. That leaves Demon. Who voted unvoted and dipped, which is wild and I have no idea what to make of it.

I mean, and I'm probably overthinking this, Demon votes for damo immediately on D2, goes silent for 15 minutes, then says "if brain gave you something dont say shit" (my words) which is okay, fine, maybe a valid time to think about that. Maybe if he had the damo vote post prepared and only after posting did he actually read and think about brain's death.

But then he frame 1 responds to damo calling Demon town by reason that Demon is tunneling on damo? Like look at that, it's -47:36 and -47:35.

I'm talking myself into this while I write this post. But. Is this scum theater?

D1 Demon sees two votes on damo and adds himself to gain some town cred _whenever_ damo flips. Night happens. Demon clarifies "yeah I was light bussing". They create this interaction to kill any lingering momentum.

Does it feel incredibly fake and thus implausible? Yeah, to any extent. But people have already pointed out how this Demon feels different and odd.

So my gut right now tells me that this is either S+S or T+T.

I have plenty of doubt in my ability to scumread, yet to actually make a strong one ever, and so I might be complete wrong here and it's town!damo and town!Demon. But if one of them flips scum, god that SOD D2 stuff feels so fake, I would be convinced that they have to be scum together and I would push flipping the other one.

In a remote past, lurking Demon was scum Demon.

I confess I don't like Demon reasoning to scumread Damo (he is playing to relaxed because he won't be a wagon thanks to scummates). This is as bullshit as it can be. Usually the most relaxed players are VT and I don't remember Demon doing this kind of reasoning. On a re-read his reads are pretty forced all around and he can replace Bona in my suspects list.

[rdrivera2005]

Yes, the reads of NKed players usually don't get heavily considered.

I'm here to heavily consider them

It is somewhat WIFOM, but the NK implicates me, BesharamSabi, bo_sox, rdrivera, and Tom. Personally, I think it is better for mafia to eliminate a player with good reads than eliminate a player with bad reads in hope that someone acts on the frozen bad reads, because that rarely happens.

I usually think scum would aim for PRs and this could be the case here too. If not, I agree with you, aiming at vocal people with good reads is the way to go if you don't have good PR reads. But killing Brain over HR or Tom or even you isn't something I expect from most of the vets here if they were not PR hunting.

[rdrivera2005]

I don't understand the fear of hammer here lol

I know it is not very likely, but if a town players reaches 7 votes today, a mafia could hammer them.

I don't think any Mafia would do that unless they are so close to winning that a miskill is worth exposing himself.

[rdrivera2005]

Seeing three votes for no-kill got me back here instead of sleeping. My vote was just kinda parked there because Sabi said to do that just in case I couldn't be back by EOD.

There is no hurry with the hammer mechanism in place.

Why?

Seeing three votes for no-kill got me back here instead of sleeping. My vote was just kinda parked there because Sabi said to do that just in case I couldn't be back by EOD.

Was less of a hurry and more of I came back because I saw the bot and thought it somehow became some kind of serious thing? And wanted to ask if there was a logical reason to no-kill. Also the kind of situations and scenarios where no kill would be a good play? Is it an actual thing here, why are we thinking it might be a good thing here?

I don't really understand what no kill means strategically beyond having on strong reads. I was curious what was happening.

Some people defended no kill on D1 so you get more info before first kill. I don't think it ever happened or will happen here.

The only situation town choose to no kill is on milo (3 town 1 scum for example) to get to kilo (scum kill at night and there is 2 town 1 scum the next day).

[Rumi Tobari]

In a remote past, lurking Demon was scum Demon.

I confess I don't like Demon reasoning to scumread Damo (he is playing to relaxed because he won't be a wagon thanks to scummates). This is as bullshit as it can be. Usually the most relaxed players are VT and I don't remember Demon doing this kind of reasoning. On a re-read his reads are pretty forced all around and he can replace Bona in my suspects list.

Can you tell me more about Demon as a whole? Fill in the gaps of my knowledge and experience with him? I've noticed that he's been absent since like, the beginning of day, also he's done a few weird flipflops I find a bit dodgy, but am not familiar enough with his play to really read anything into?

[Rumi Tobari]

Also kind of blacking out now, I haven't managed to get to sleep like I was supposed to.

Yes. I know I spent too much of D2 sleeping. Friday stream usually exhausts me hard.

[Bonatogether]

What is everyone's thoughts on damo and bozo

bozo fails to towntell for me but he's like, not scummy

damo hasn't had a huge amount of posts/reads i can remember

[Princess Neon]

I don't understand the fear of hammer here lol

I know it is not very likely, but if a town players reaches 7 votes today, a mafia could hammer them.

Hammering is an amazing power for town to utilize.

[damo666]

What is everyone's thoughts on damo and bozo

bozo fails to towntell for me but he's like, not scummy

damo hasn't had a huge amount of posts/reads i can remember

I'm one of the few people to post a full read list.

[Bonatogether]

pyxxy's wallposts are too big for me to understand

[Bonatogether]

What is everyone's thoughts on damo and bozo

bozo fails to towntell for me but he's like, not scummy

damo hasn't had a huge amount of posts/reads i can remember

I'm one of the few people to post a full read list.

i don't remember it so my point stands