MAFIA 52: You Can't Take The Sky From Me [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

@Darg: Even if you claim a role the Mafia aren't interested in killing, you help them narrow down the important PRs they DO want to kill. Think about the overall effect of your claim. Duh.

Or roleblock, or investigate.

Well, indeed, thank you.

[xorxes]

Also; Three scum need to fake a claim. If you tell them your role, they know they can fake that role without risking faking the role of whoever gets NKd

[xorxes]

That's why the roles claimed before EON, but very close to EON, will be much more convincing than roles claimed after EON when we have more info.

[xorxes]

The three scum might all even be from different factions, so maybe they all end up claiming the same role

[xorxes]

It would be wonderful if all three claim the role of whoever gets NKd

[dargorygel]

Well ok then. Had a moment. To me this might be my eon

[BunnyGo]

Also; Three scum need to fake a claim. If you tell them your role, they know they can fake that role without risking faking the role of whoever gets NKd

I apologize in advance for likely not participating. But I doubt I’ll be on much for the next 2 hours.

[BunnyGo]

That's why the roles claimed before EON, but very close to EON, will be much more convincing than roles claimed after EON when we have more info.

Stupid phone. Meant to quote this.

[teacon7]

I apologize in advance for likely not participating. But I doubt I’ll be on much for the next 2 hours.

Ahh, the old: "xorxes just reminded me that scum needs to see what PR claims have been made so as to avoid claiming the wrong role before the flip" maneuver." A classic in mass-claim games.

That said, I'm also busy at that time. I've found this works to help: load some copy paste text to your phone and post right at EoN.

[BunnyGo]

I apologize in advance for likely not participating. But I doubt I’ll be on much for the next 2 hours.

Ahh, the old: "xorxes just reminded me that scum needs to see what PR claims have been made so as to avoid claiming the wrong role before the flip" maneuver." A classic in mass-claim games.

That said, I'm also busy at that time. I've found this works to help: load some copy paste text to your phone and post right at EoN.

Not a bad idea. Will set an alarm. How close to EON should I set it?

[teacon7]

I've found this works to help: load some copy paste text to your phone and post right at EoN.

Not a bad idea. Will set an alarm. How close to EON should I set it?

I set it for 4-5 minutes out, which gives me time to extract myself and post the pre-prepared copypasta as close to the phase shift as possible. Depending on what you're doing, this might simply mean taking a bathroom break. (If you're driving somewhere, please pull over.)

If you're running and event that STARTS at the phase change time (like I was for EoD1, for example), you'll have to live with whatever works.

[dargorygel]

Leave yourself longer if you are scum and need to react.

[xorxes]

@Bunny, this was your claim moment:

Because we are past the point of no return. Not claiming at all was not anti-town. Not participating is also anti-town. But the reaver is really a deterrent to claiming. A strong one that I don’t think people appreciated enough.

So you think I'm being anti-town by not revealing, and you are joining me in being anti-town by not claiming. Is that correct?

Fine. Whatever. I’m a town PR. Now you’re turn.

Much, much later you said:

Wow. Xorxes. Can you cut it out at this point? Kitsune is here and not responding to your PMs despite saying she’s actively going through PMs.

As for my claim: I waited because it was dumb and I said as much pregame and during game. But once there were 10 claimed I knew one was lying and had to claim.

I will be in and out. Sledding was fun.

Your claim was significant because it was indeed the 11th PR claim, but at the time you made it you did not even mention this fact. If that was what led you to claim, why did you not point out immediately that someone had to be lying? You made it sound like you were claiming in response to my pressure and as a trade for me to reveal, not because it was important for everyone to know that one claim was false.

[goldfinger0303]

@Bunny, this was your claim moment:

So you think I'm being anti-town by not revealing, and you are joining me in being anti-town by not claiming. Is that correct?

Fine. Whatever. I’m a town PR. Now you’re turn.

Much, much later you said:

Wow. Xorxes. Can you cut it out at this point? Kitsune is here and not responding to your PMs despite saying she’s actively going through PMs.

As for my claim: I waited because it was dumb and I said as much pregame and during game. But once there were 10 claimed I knew one was lying and had to claim.

I will be in and out. Sledding was fun.

Your claim was significant because it was indeed the 11th PR claim, but at the time you made it you did not even mention this fact. If that was what led you to claim, why did you not point out immediately that someone had to be lying? You made it sound like you were claiming in response to my pressure and as a trade for me to reveal, not because it was important for everyone to know that one claim was false.

Oooh, shoot I didn't even realize that. Good catch, xorxes. If I was the 11th PR claim I definitely would've made a fuss (like I eventually did when we got over 10)

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny, this was your claim moment:

So you think I'm being anti-town by not revealing, and you are joining me in being anti-town by not claiming. Is that correct?

Fine. Whatever. I’m a town PR. Now you’re turn.

Much, much later you said:

Wow. Xorxes. Can you cut it out at this point? Kitsune is here and not responding to your PMs despite saying she’s actively going through PMs.

As for my claim: I waited because it was dumb and I said as much pregame and during game. But once there were 10 claimed I knew one was lying and had to claim.

I will be in and out. Sledding was fun.

Your claim was significant because it was indeed the 11th PR claim, but at the time you made it you did not even mention this fact. If that was what led you to claim, why did you not point out immediately that someone had to be lying? You made it sound like you were claiming in response to my pressure and as a trade for me to reveal, not because it was important for everyone to know that one claim was false.

I need to point everything out to you? Some things work better when not said.

[xorxes]

That the 12th and 13th PR claims were made after the lynch, thus depriving town of crucial information to decide the lynch, was pretty terrible, but they were from town!peter and probably-town!Super, so not a lot to learn from that.

[BunnyGo]

I’ll point out more tomorrow (assuming I live) but I’ll preload my reveal now and set an alarm.

[xorxes]

@Bunny, this was your claim moment:

Fine. Whatever. I’m a town PR. Now you’re turn.

Much, much later you said:

Wow. Xorxes. Can you cut it out at this point? Kitsune is here and not responding to your PMs despite saying she’s actively going through PMs.

As for my claim: I waited because it was dumb and I said as much pregame and during game. But once there were 10 claimed I knew one was lying and had to claim.

I will be in and out. Sledding was fun.

Your claim was significant because it was indeed the 11th PR claim, but at the time you made it you did not even mention this fact. If that was what led you to claim, why did you not point out immediately that someone had to be lying? You made it sound like you were claiming in response to my pressure and as a trade for me to reveal, not because it was important for everyone to know that one claim was false.

I need to point everything out to you? Some things work better when not said.

So it was intentional that you disguised your motives?

[Kitsune]

##CALL GM: Are Reavers allowed to break their posting restrictions strategically i.e. break the rules intentionally so as to trigger the GM warning?

This information regarding the Reaver Posting Restrictions falls inside the closed area of this semi-open setup.

##CallGM: Can you tell us everything that *doesn't* fall within the closed area?

That the rules for the Reavers are consistent for all Reavers, prepared in advance and do not change as a result of a rules violation.

[peterlund]

@tom
@peter
you'd better post reads tonight, in case they target you.

Hmm what a mishap that was. Sorry about that. I knew it was a kind of a shot in the dark, but Tom really did not do his part in looking like a VT hunting for scum. That was the reason I seleted him.

Anyhow, that is history now. Both Tom and I have now basically turned into confirmed VTs. Obviously we are scum target as "confirmed" and therefore scum has an interest in killing us. The Captain still has his +2 powers so he needs protection more but can we stop him from being role blocked Day 2?

One good thing is that the Reaver knows that Mafia1 may want us dead, so the Reaver will likely not be trying to recruit any of us 3 confirmed.

And yes I will make some read list before EoN.