M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread - HIDDEN

[Vecna]

Didn't somebody
PM you when you tried to
Fuck things up again?

guess who that was. and I even got mislynched later on, having to resist claiming that shit.

so noble

[Vecna]

Bro your hair is red
As the fires of hell are hot
Acknowledge the truth

gingers unite. we must find souls for ourselves

[TheMadMonarch]

That's very interesting.

My PM was the exact same PM as was sent to a number of other people at the same time, and it contained a line which made this explicitly clear.

You do receive some interesting correspondence, Maniac.

The Jamie attempts
An awkward townslip. Alas
Nobody buys it

ok, the game is ruined again now

ghug literally scumslipped. jamiet used the bcc shit to townclear him

##call gm can you confirm whether scum received that exact same PM? Because else you can restart the game and not fuck that shit up

I understand Jamie, but why do you think ghug scumslipped?

[Vecna]

it doesnt matter really how i interpret it.

The fact people can mention that shit in the way they did is just a gm mistake, and should be banned from ever happening again....probably?

[Vecna]

as in, it mightve just been a townslip that was poorly worded as well.

but bo, jamiet, me and a bunch of others instantly knowing what its about and using that info in this way just breaks the game.

extra potential recruit or not

[Vecna]

##call gm:

please restart the game

[Vecna]

also, we just need an extra new rule for mafia here, because this shit is getting tiresome.

1: the general town pm for vt is always displayed (unless reasons for special setup), and is sent via bcc by default. this pm never ever includes any other communication then what is displayed in the opening post of the game.

Either that or:
2: it is strictly forbidden to discuss anything in your role pm. using phrasing, wording, gm fuckups or anything of that order to try and game the system and townclear you is against the spirit of the game.

[Vecna]

funny part is the gm probably included the exact bcc line for the scum pm, but whatever, having even a situation where that becomes the main discussion point does not make for a fun game of mafia

[dargorygel]

also, we just need an extra new rule for mafia here, because this shit is getting tiresome.

1: the general town pm for vt is always displayed (unless reasons for special setup), and is sent via bcc by default. this pm never ever includes any other communication then what is displayed in the opening post of the game.

Either that or:
2: it is strictly forbidden to discuss anything in your role pm. using phrasing, wording, gm fuckups or anything of that order to try and game the system and townclear you is against the spirit of the game.

Kouncil Komment
I personally, while perhaps just old (fashioned) recommend not BCCing. I know it takes longer. But simplifying the situation for the receivers (with less options to go awry) seems worth the extra time.

I, too, hate the degrading into analyzing which pm was sent to whom, and when. BUT I also trust the GMs to know more than we do. When 'it' reaches the point where things are broken, they know long before we do.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Durga, let's kill her D1 so I can survive past N1.

town

100% confirmed town (at least for now).

[rdrivera2005]

That's very interesting.

My PM was the exact same PM as was sent to a number of other people at the same time, and it contained a line which made this explicitly clear.

You do receive some interesting correspondence, Maniac.

The Jamie attempts
An awkward townslip. Alas
Nobody buys it

ok, the game is ruined again now

ghug literally scumslipped. jamiet used the bcc shit to townclear him

##call gm can you confirm whether scum received that exact same PM? Because else you can restart the game and not fuck that shit up

This could be an issue.

I think GM should consider carefully if this is game bracking or not considering the alignment PM posted in the thread..

[worcej]

GM Note:
From my perspective, the game is not compromised in any way. Scum know the exact same information that town does.

[damo666]

Bonjour good people
I see we have changed start time
That's all very good

I've read role PM
boring boring boring eh
read set-up later

##vote Ghug

You've read your Role PM, huh?

That's odd. I haven't had a Role PM.

You must not be on the same team as me.

##VOTE MANIAC

What a weird post. One would think if you had indeed received a town role pm you'd know its very easily mistaken for a VT pm with the way its worded.

No it is not odd. Nobody has yet received a role PM, just an alignment PM. Jamie was pointing out Maniac's lie. (Maniac must be a tory!)

[damo666]

Hello all!

I've read the setup a couple times, still can't claim to properly understand it, juts hoping that if/when I get a role PM, I can make sense of that.

My first thoughts:

I'm definitely going town on Jamie. I can't imagine scum pushing that opening endvote move, especially since it was stopped with an intervention, rather than a re-read of rules.

As such, I'm not leaning well on ghug, who's just gone after him? Seems a weird move, and/or, him trying to shutdown Jamie's plan (since it can be assumed he wouldn't push for his own death).

Also, Haikus.
No, I will not be participating in that.

1) it's "when" not "if/when"
2) agree re Jamie (though if course this makes him prime recruit target
3) agree re haikus

All players get roles? That's gonna be fun.

Which part says that? I had a quick look, but I can't see it. Is it implied somewhere?

It says role PMs will be sent out after 24 hours of D1. Vt counts as a role presumably so of course all players get a role.

[damo666]

@Damo
nope... I'll 'splain later. Like when this weird day ends.

OK

[TheMadMonarch]

1) it's "when" not "if/when"
2) agree re Jamie (though if course this makes him prime recruit target
3) agree re haikus

All players get roles? That's gonna be fun.

Which part says that? I had a quick look, but I can't see it. Is it implied somewhere?

It says role PMs will be sent out after 24 hours of D1. Vt counts as a role presumably so of course all players get a role.

Ahh, I didn't realise VT counted as a role. Thanks for clearing it up.

[damo666]

GM Note:
From my perspective, the game is not compromised in any way. Scum know the exact same information that town does.

@GM did they prior to post #74 ?

[dargorygel]

Hellenic Riot... Come out and plaaaay

##vote Hellenic Riot

[teacon7]

What the fuck is this page

Well you see...

I am consuming
Large amounts of alcohol
While playing this game

...aaand there's your answer.

[teacon7]

Can we even vote yet?

This is a decent question.
##CALLGM: Can we get a VC?
##ALSOGM: Can we consider the bot reliable for VC's this game?