Re: Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 pm
damn dargo, both will and frogger in your bottom 5?
Can you talk me through that a little bit?
Can you talk me through that a little bit?
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HearsayHamilton Brian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:20 pmWhat is a statement like this called in the legal world?Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:55 pm
I specifically made this entire post because i know my vote should look like bussing to the discerning eye. And because people love to look into deviations from earlier reads.
Which is all fair.
The faulty history also isnt completely great for the optics (although a faulty/bad memory isnt exactly ai, because scum especially want to get their facts straight).
Regardless, the post came from a genuine place, and what I believed in at the time of writing it.
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:16 pmA partial admittance of guilt I guess. Even after committing an awesome act.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:20 pmWhat is a statement like this called in the legal world?Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:55 pm
I specifically made this entire post because i know my vote should look like bussing to the discerning eye. And because people love to look into deviations from earlier reads.
Which is all fair.
The faulty history also isnt completely great for the optics (although a faulty/bad memory isnt exactly ai, because scum especially want to get their facts straight).
Regardless, the post came from a genuine place, and what I believed in at the time of writing it.
But ofcourse none of you have a real way of knowing that yet.
Hearsay
I like explanations. I like people to justify their scumreads, especially if they claim to hold them as strongly as you were doing here.Frogsterking wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:08 pmThat's a town tell; I'm on the good side of reads vs reasons, I'm thinking about my reads and verbalizing what I want to happen rather than the other way around. If you don't look for that then you should start doing so, you will find more scum and have more fun.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:50 pm
Nowhere, in any of this, does Frogster give a reason for scumreading Sweetandcool. He just magically does. Apparently Sweet is so easy for Frogster to read that he suspects him from Page 1 without ever giving a reason why.
It only benefits us both if you are town.Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:10 pmIts easy to come up with reasons why people could have acted the way they did.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:04 pmI can see where it could look mafia motivated considering I did not vote for sweetandcool, but that is not an argument for me not to do it.
Here is my perspective on why those not voting for sweetandcool might be mafia, other than the obvious reason of not voting to DKing a mafia teammate:
brainbomb: Tried to protect sweetandcool, and moved off of foodcoats as soon as I put foodcoats in the lead, so possibly bussing foodcoats.
foodcoats: Tried to protect sweetandcool, more obviously than scum would normally do to protect teammates, but that's what makes it a good scum play.
Hamilton: Low level defense of sweetandcool at EOD.
heart: He always votes as town.
Jamie: Hard to believe he did not understand my comment on Vecna.
I am not sure I suspect any of them more than the possible bussers.
Its about figuring out which is the actual thing that happened.
I know we generally clash every game (and its sort of a big ass distraction to me right now) - but I think it would benefit us both if you accept my answers at face value for now and believe me.
There were seven people who did not vote for Sweetandcool.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pmCan you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?
If you think I am mafia do you think I am trying to protect one of these 5, and if so, which one?ghug wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 pmMaybe bozo is just scum.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:04 pmI can see where it could look mafia motivated considering I did not vote for sweetandcool, but that is not an argument for me not to do it.
Here is my perspective on why those not voting for sweetandcool might be mafia, other than the obvious reason of not voting to DKing a mafia teammate:
brainbomb: Tried to protect sweetandcool, and moved off of foodcoats as soon as I put foodcoats in the lead, so possibly bussing foodcoats.
foodcoats: Tried to protect sweetandcool, more obviously than scum would normally do to protect teammates, but that's what makes it a good scum play.
Hamilton: Low level defense of sweetandcool at EOD.
heart: He always votes as town.
Jamie: Hard to believe he did not understand my comment on Vecna.
I am not sure I suspect any of them more than the possible bussers.
Well heart doesn’t countJamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pmThere were seven people who did not vote for Sweetandcool.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pmCan you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?
Oh wait ignore this. The seventh person was Sweetandcool himself.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pmThere were seven people who did not vote for Sweetandcool.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pmCan you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?
Yes, but one was sweetandcool.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pmThere were seven people who did not vote for Sweetandcool.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pmCan you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?
Yeah sorry, I glanced at the bot quickly and didn't realise I was about to ask a redundant question until seconds after I posted it.Robot Detective wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:24 pmYes, but one was Sweetandcool.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pmThere were seven people who did not vote for Sweetandcool.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pmCan you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?
stop wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:26 pmYeah sorry, I glanced at the bot quickly and didn't realise I was about to ask a redundant question until seconds after I posted it.changing names wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:24 pmYes, but one was Sweetandcool.its confusing wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pm
There were seven people who did not vote for Sweetandcool.
Unsure. It's less about protection and more that you're spending time being snarky and difficult rather than plowing through someone with lots of evidence and questions like you normally do (obviously you're doing some of that with Vecna).bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pmIf you think I am mafia do you think I am trying to protect one of these 5, and if so, which one?ghug wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 pmMaybe bozo is just scum.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:04 pm
I can see where it could look mafia motivated considering I did not vote for sweetandcool, but that is not an argument for me not to do it.
Here is my perspective on why those not voting for sweetandcool might be mafia, other than the obvious reason of not voting to DKing a mafia teammate:
brainbomb: Tried to protect sweetandcool, and moved off of foodcoats as soon as I put foodcoats in the lead, so possibly bussing foodcoats.
foodcoats: Tried to protect sweetandcool, more obviously than scum would normally do to protect teammates, but that's what makes it a good scum play.
Hamilton: Low level defense of sweetandcool at EOD.
heart: He always votes as town.
Jamie: Hard to believe he did not understand my comment on Vecna.
I am not sure I suspect any of them more than the possible bussers.
im not considering Ghug and Chaqas vote a serious vote on Sleep, so ill even include those.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:21 pmIt only benefits us both if you are town.Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:10 pmIts easy to come up with reasons why people could have acted the way they did.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:04 pm
I can see where it could look mafia motivated considering I did not vote for sweetandcool, but that is not an argument for me not to do it.
Here is my perspective on why those not voting for sweetandcool might be mafia, other than the obvious reason of not voting to DKing a mafia teammate:
brainbomb: Tried to protect sweetandcool, and moved off of foodcoats as soon as I put foodcoats in the lead, so possibly bussing foodcoats.
foodcoats: Tried to protect sweetandcool, more obviously than scum would normally do to protect teammates, but that's what makes it a good scum play.
Hamilton: Low level defense of sweetandcool at EOD.
heart: He always votes as town.
Jamie: Hard to believe he did not understand my comment on Vecna.
I am not sure I suspect any of them more than the possible bussers.
Its about figuring out which is the actual thing that happened.
I know we generally clash every game (and its sort of a big ass distraction to me right now) - but I think it would benefit us both if you accept my answers at face value for now and believe me.
Can you put the 6 of us who did not vote for sweetandcool in the order you think we are likely to be mafia?
Vecna wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:30 pmalso, i dont actually think youre scum at all brainbomb.
I think will is town
I think foodcoats is town.
I think bozo is probably town.
I think the 2 new guys are probably town.
I think bunny is probably town
I think scum is in [chaqa, jamiet, damo, HB] - sweet is still hard to read for me
What changed your opinion of Chaqa?Vecna wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:50 pmEh, I find it far more plausible that scum is nervous because town got their big prize ticket and they were caught off of the wagon.
Even sleep's "at least I participated" today speech fits much better in a world where he's semi-dickhurt his team was absent to save him.
I wouldnt consider chaqas and ghugs vote bussing.
I find it way more likely there were 5 town in the first 5 sleep voters than that theres 2 scum in the 7 people that ended up on him.
And thats the problem - whenever Bozo is scum, im one of his most-picked targets to try and plow through.ghug wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:29 pmUnsure. It's less about protection and more that you're spending time being snarky and difficult rather than plowing through someone with lots of evidence and questions like you normally do (obviously you're doing some of that with Vecna).bozotheclown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:23 pmIf you think I am mafia do you think I am trying to protect one of these 5, and if so, which one?