MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[damo666]

Okay, this is a pretty cool setup. Lie detector is an interesting role and has the potential to be one of our biggest assets. I mean cop also exists.... Big discussion on pedantic phrasing of lies/truths on day one which I'm sure I would've had a lot to say about on day one. But it's over now, so kinda in the past. Not sure how to react to the whole thing, would've given both damp and bunny some town for it. Next stop will be EoD and working out what bunny did to get himself pulverised or hung or dessicated or whatever.

##unvote

convince me

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.7

Bob McBob (4) - Rdrivera2005, Durga, summit_fever, TrPrado
TrPrado (2) - ghug, Foxcastle
Flash2015 (2) - vecna, Bo_sox
Summit_fever (1) worcej
Worcej (1) - bozotheclown
e.m.c^42 (1) - Chaqa
seth24c (1) - Hamilton Brian
vecna (1) - Flash2015
ghug (1) - Seth24c
Unvote / No-Kill (1) - damo666

Bob McBob is scheduled to hang.

Bob and EMC must vote. Chaqa has not met posting requirements.

6 hours and 23 minutes are left in Day Two.

[BobMcBob]

Oh yay, I get a bit of slack. I can't help but feel that I'm still going to get rabbitholed for the same reasons as last time I subbed, but hey, day 1 is out of my control. I chose to sub into this after all. I think I missed what other people are seeing about scummy interactions, could somebody please explain? Like sure he used the word lol too much but I can't find much scum indicative in that. I agree his absence after saying he'd do something is odd, but I can't see a game-related reason he'd leave like that. He wasn't exactly being run up a wall or anything.

[Durga]

Oh yay, I get a bit of slack. I can't help but feel that I'm still going to get rabbitholed for the same reasons as last time I subbed, but hey, day 1 is out of my control. I chose to sub into this after all. I think I missed what other people are seeing about scummy interactions, could somebody please explain? Like sure he used the word lol too much but I can't find much scum indicative in that. I agree his absence after saying he'd do something is odd, but I can't see a game-related reason he'd leave like that. He wasn't exactly being run up a wall or anything.

Just forget him for now because you can't read into his actions. Something about the way you've framed his actions puts me off though. What do you mean you can't find much scum indicative in that? Shouldn't you know his role lol

I know it's hard but try to read a bit and give us your thoughts. It'll help much more than speculating on what yoyo would or would not do.

[damo666]

Starting a 10th wagon

##vote HamB

[Chaqa]

Hello boys and girls

A friend invited me to her lakehouse, so I havent been home or really checking the internets, but I'm back now.

Tl'DR on Yoyo wagon?

From a vote count analyis perspective, maybe resolving a BismarckEMC or damo flip to get more outof Day 1 makes sense?

Yoyo hasn't posted today and just got replaced. His replacement should either get lynched because he's scummy today or he should not get lynched.

Why in the hell would we use day 2 to try and get more info out of day 1, and why would you ask this instead of seeing if you can't find reason to scumread one of the other wagons from day 1?

My thinking is, usually Day 1 that involves TvT has a lot of people (typically scum) on one-off wagons or very minor wagons. Day 1 with such a close flip that was town and so many wagons makes me really think there was a scum up on the block, and if that's the case, EMC, Damo, and Yoyo/Bob make the most sense.

So, that said, the Yoyo/Bob wagon probably is fine too, and I'd vote for any of those three, and probably no one else. The only thing going against this theory is the HR kill, which I would expect someone from a wagon that isn't the main one to be killed (to protect my theorized scum in EMC/Damo/YoyoBob), but HR could just be a fearkill type situation.

[BobMcBob]

Oh yay, I get a bit of slack. I can't help but feel that I'm still going to get rabbitholed for the same reasons as last time I subbed, but hey, day 1 is out of my control. I chose to sub into this after all. I think I missed what other people are seeing about scummy interactions, could somebody please explain? Like sure he used the word lol too much but I can't find much scum indicative in that. I agree his absence after saying he'd do something is odd, but I can't see a game-related reason he'd leave like that. He wasn't exactly being run up a wall or anything.

Just forget him for now because you can't read into his actions. Something about the way you've framed his actions puts me off though. What do you mean you can't find much scum indicative in that? Shouldn't you know his role lol

I know it's hard but try to read a bit and give us your thoughts. It'll help much more than speculating on what yoyo would or would not do.

I'm saying I can't see why others find his actions scum indicative. Of course I don't. I'm trying to work out why the heck they're voting me. I'm currently trying to figure out where to place my vote, so I've been reading a bit on Tr and flash (yes, I'm a sellout going for the leading wagons, it's 1am). Any places you'd suggest may be important to read and give an opinion on? Because I cannot afford to just go through and try to read the whole thing.

[rdrivera2005]

On my gut feeling about Yoyo, I have been more confident on my gut reads lately. I got HR last game and Xorxes some games ago, but I just can't convince people, so I am not backtracking on it now.

Here’s another example. “I just can’t convince people” as you sit voting for the lead wagon

Bad english, I meant I couldn't. Now that seems I can, I won't backtrack, that's what I meant.

[BobMcBob]

EoD was really darn empty. I'm surprised. Was it because everybody thought it was an hour later? Regardless, I'm still struggling to work out who to vote for. Out of the closest wagons to me, I think there's a better case for flash than Tr, flash has been pretty absent and vague. (I mean yes you could argue I'm the same, but I just subbed off the back of someone who'd been missing for liket hree days, and I haven't had much time to read. I'll be back with a good bit more tomorrow if I'm still alive, promise). I'm not a huuuge fan of the flash wagon but I don't have anyone better to vote for and a decent chance of hitting scum or at worst a lurker is better than guaranteed town as far as I'm concerned. ##vote flash

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

EoD is in 5.53 hours.

Dargorygel will be busy at EoD, and I will be processing it on my phone, most likely, so bear with me. I am confident you will find it a timely and accurate experience all the same. JamieT is not in the business of making excuses.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.8

Bob McBob (4) - Rdrivera2005, Durga, summit_fever, TrPrado
Flash2015 (3) - vecna, Bo_sox, Bob McBob
TrPrado (2) - ghug, Foxcastle
Summit_fever (1) worcej
Worcej (1) - bozotheclown
e.m.c^42 (1) - Chaqa
seth24c (1) - Hamilton Brian
vecna (1) - Flash2015
ghug (1) - Seth24c
Hamilton B (1) - damo666

Bob McBob is scheduled to hang.

EMC must vote. Chaqa has not met posting requirements.

I just told you how much time is left.

[Foxcastle]

Yoyo’s replacement possibly means he wasn’t lurking and just couldn’t play. I’d rather kill Flash, who I think is very capable of trying to coast as scum.

##VOTE FLASH

[Chaqa]

@Fox - summary of Flash case?

[BobMcBob]

Also, if I am to be killed, I demand you do it in a more interesting fashion than simply hanging me. Blood eagle is always a fun one, or perhaps chucked into a den of lions for free gladiatorial entertainment at the same time.

[ghug]

Townies are often killed because their reads are wrong and scum want to crystallize those views. The other side of the coin is that players with good reads are kept around to avoid suspicion that "X was pushing Q hard, therefor Q probably killed X" when Q is scum. So actually, HR's top reads are probably not scum.

Man, Fox, why you just engaging him on that fluff post, instead of calling him out. Also your reasoning is way too fluffy, scum kill players with good reads all the time, because noone ever listens to the dead anyway and its a vote less heading your way.

Why do people townread Rdrivera again?

Because I am obviously town?

Scum wouldn't say this.

[Foxcastle]

@Fox - summary of Flash case?

Lurking, not contributing, making easy votes with little thought or explanation.

[ghug]

Aaaaand I'm back, after a considerably briefer than I was expecting hiatus. But here I am now, and I fully expect to be lynched by the end of the day because that's exactly what happened last time. I'm gonna be a little busy (again) but I'll try to post enough to contribute and then some. Okay? Don't get up me for it (or do, your choice I guess).

Somebody tell me about this guy.

[Durga]

Yoyo’s replacement possibly means he wasn’t lurking and just couldn’t play. I’d rather kill Flash, who I think is very capable of trying to coast as scum.

##VOTE FLASH

No I really don't think it means this lmao

[ghug]

And here he claims he is caught up, yet all he has done is responded a little bit to the last 3 pages of the game with very vapid thoughts.

Claims im latching on to easy votes (not realizing the timing of my vote I bet), and then does it himself. Then does it again with the Worcej statement.

Flash is just trying to fly under the radar by agreeing a bunch with people

Also no other participating whatsoever since. 4 posts and a vote.

##vote Flash

I’m down for some fresh blood, ##VOTE flash

I'm torn between scumreading flash and being irked by how lazy this is.

[ghug]

Welcome Bob; hope to hear plenty from you. We don't want a mis-kill.

This sounds almost threatening.