M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

damo/Chaqa/BunnyGo still looks like the most obvious scum team, I do not see any good reason to lynch anyone else before Chaqa and BunnyGo.

I mean...we're at mylo (right?), so if you lynch me we lose.

That said, all your cases about Neph make a lot of sense. Is he that lazy and obvious when he is scum? Kgray pointed out he was when he was recently town.

My suspicion is that Nephthys did not have a lot of time for the game, and was trying to cover that up with his posts at D1 EOD. However, it is possible he was lying about not checking the vote count while still being town, and he could have just voted for xorxes if he was scum, but I do not see a good way to explain Nephthys "catching up" on part of D1 that he obviously had already read.

[BunnyGo]

Tom, if I am scum, who is my teammate?

I don't know how to make you guys see you're about to lose this for us by voting for me.

Hey Chaq. If today is T v T, then what's the team? And how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible?

You're Neph...?

Have you been paying any attention?

[BunnyGo]

damo/Chaqa/BunnyGo still looks like the most obvious scum team, I do not see any good reason to lynch anyone else before Chaqa and BunnyGo.

I mean...we're at mylo (right?), so if you lynch me we lose.

That said, all your cases about Neph make a lot of sense. Is he that lazy and obvious when he is scum? Kgray pointed out he was when he was recently town.

My suspicion is that Nephthys did not have a lot of time for the game, and was trying to cover that up with his posts at D1 EOD. However, it is possible he was lying about not checking the vote count while still being town, and he could have just voted for xorxes if he was scum, but I do not see a good way to explain Nephthys "catching up" on part of D1 that he obviously had already read.

Sadly I can't explain what/why he was doing that. I agree, it's kinda lazy looking. The best defense I can offer is that scum!Neph would not likely risk a modkill for not voting. I agree that no matter what, it's not a good look.

[Chaqa]

Hey Chaq. If today is T v T, then what's the team? And how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible?

You're Neph...?

Have you been paying any attention?

Read your own post. You said “how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible”

[BunnyGo]

You're Neph...?

Have you been paying any attention?

Read your own post. You said “how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible”

Yes....

[BunnyGo]

Have you been paying any attention?

Read your own post. You said “how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible”

Yes....

Don't edit the post...it makes sense with the whole thing.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 5.4

Chaqa(4) - bozotheclown, kgray, BunnyGo, Tom Bombadil
BunnyGo(2) - Vecna, Chaqa

Chaqa be set for lynchin'

10 hours remain.

[Chaqa]

Read your own post. You said “how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible”

Yes....

Don't edit the post...it makes sense with the whole thing.

I didn’t edit it, and it doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

[BunnyGo]

Yes....

Don't edit the post...it makes sense with the whole thing.

I didn’t edit it, and it doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

You did. That was not the post in it’s entirety. Don’t remove anything. It’s a short post. Post it all. Read it in context. Quote it. Here like this:

##vote Chaqa

I do appreciate the asinine comments of me potentially being scum, if only because it means scum will kill kgray over me if we lynch scum today.

Tom, if I am scum, who is my teammate?

I don't know how to make you guys see you're about to lose this for us by voting for me.

Hey Chaq. If today is T v T, then what's the team? And how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible?

[BunnyGo]

Yes....

Don't edit the post...it makes sense with the whole thing.

I didn’t edit it, and it doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

You claim to know what English words mean. This raises doubt.

[BunnyGo]

Don't edit the post...it makes sense with the whole thing.

I didn’t edit it, and it doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

You did. That was not the post in it’s entirety. Don’t remove anything. It’s a short post. Post it all. Read it in context. Quote it. Here like this:

Tom, if I am scum, who is my teammate?

I don't know how to make you guys see you're about to lose this for us by voting for me.

Hey Chaq. If today is T v T, then what's the team? And how do you and Neph look scummier than I thought possible?

The point is that Neph looked really scummy in his dodging the game. You look scummy in your votes. I know Neph was town, but he LOOKED (meaning appeared, or seemed to be, or presented as) scummy. As he subbed out, I can only assume he was actually too busy for the game.

How do you explain your failings if you are Town?

[Chaqa]

Yeah, your post did not make any sense to me as you originally phrased it.

My best guess for the team right now is you and Vecna. It would explain Day 1.

[Chaqa]

As for scumminess - I gave up on trying to explain my supposed scumminess. Remember last game? You said you didn't understand me as a player. I assume even though you were scum that's true.

I don't play in a "towny" way, apparently, and it's kinda just who I am.

[BunnyGo]

As for scumminess - I gave up on trying to explain my supposed scumminess. Remember last game? You said you didn't understand me as a player. I assume even though you were scum that's true.

I don't play in a "towny" way, apparently, and it's kinda just who I am.

Last game was in a large part:

1) me being a caught scum trying to shake up the game
2) your neighborhood being partly ready for conspiracy theories

There are other games I’ve thought you played anti-Town by trying to HERO the game. You’ve not quite done that here. Here you’ve just tried to screw everything up. I strongly disapprove of (but understand) your hero style. This one just confuses me.

[Chaqa]

As for scumminess - I gave up on trying to explain my supposed scumminess. Remember last game? You said you didn't understand me as a player. I assume even though you were scum that's true.

I don't play in a "towny" way, apparently, and it's kinda just who I am.

Last game was in a large part:

1) me being a caught scum trying to shake up the game
2) your neighborhood being partly ready for conspiracy theories

There are other games I’ve thought you played anti-Town by trying to HERO the game. You’ve not quite done that here. Here you’ve just tried to screw everything up. I strongly disapprove of (but understand) your hero style. This one just confuses me.

See, to me this is just a repeat of last game. Me being called scummy by you, and you saying you don't understand my playstyle. Nearly could be a copy paste from last game:

My one question about EOD:

Why did Chaqa switch when he did?

All day he'd advocated for Squigs and no-lynch. He was set to get his wish. He acknowledged it. THEN he switches to break the tie to vote for Temasek.

I don't understand why anyone is townreading Chaqa at this point. Advocating no-lynch that hard is scummy. Voting the way he did is scummy. Everything he does and says is scummy, and the whole scum!neighborizer even fits with a scum!doctor and a counter to all the scans and protectives.

I really don't understand what he is thinking if he is town. I've tried. But it's just so much easier to understand what scum!chaq is thinking that I keep coming back to it.

@chaq: help me out here.

4) chaqa keeps pinging me. If he’s town, I need to completely reset my chaqa mental model for next game.

-snipped-

Bunny is doing the EXACT same thing here. How do you guys not see this? He's trying to get the result he couldn't last game.

[BunnyGo]

As for scumminess - I gave up on trying to explain my supposed scumminess. Remember last game? You said you didn't understand me as a player. I assume even though you were scum that's true.

I don't play in a "towny" way, apparently, and it's kinda just who I am.

Last game was in a large part:

1) me being a caught scum trying to shake up the game
2) your neighborhood being partly ready for conspiracy theories

There are other games I’ve thought you played anti-Town by trying to HERO the game. You’ve not quite done that here. Here you’ve just tried to screw everything up. I strongly disapprove of (but understand) your hero style. This one just confuses me.

See, to me this is just a repeat of last game. Me being called scummy by you, and you saying you don't understand my playstyle. Nearly could be a copy paste from last game:

My one question about EOD:

Why did Chaqa switch when he did?

All day he'd advocated for Squigs and no-lynch. He was set to get his wish. He acknowledged it. THEN he switches to break the tie to vote for Temasek.

I don't understand why anyone is townreading Chaqa at this point. Advocating no-lynch that hard is scummy. Voting the way he did is scummy. Everything he does and says is scummy, and the whole scum!neighborizer even fits with a scum!doctor and a counter to all the scans and protectives.

I really don't understand what he is thinking if he is town. I've tried. But it's just so much easier to understand what scum!chaq is thinking that I keep coming back to it.

@chaq: help me out here.

4) chaqa keeps pinging me. If he’s town, I need to completely reset my chaqa mental model for next game.

-snipped-

Bunny is doing the EXACT same thing here. How do you guys not see this? He's trying to get the result he couldn't last game.

The difference here is everyone else called you scummy first and I repeatedly asked why. I’m not calling you scummy. I’m agreeing with all their points, and you’re working hard to construct me as a counter wagon. Last time *I* manufactured it whole because the game was all but solved and I needed to do something.

[Chaqa]

The difference here is scum has already tainted me with their Day 1 absences and damo causing a tie two days ago. You don't have to do as much work, you can just coast and win by lynching me.

[BunnyGo]

The difference here is scum has already tainted me with their Day 1 absences and damo causing a tie two days ago. You don't have to do as much work, you can just coast and win by lynching me.

Then why am I engaging at all. You questions prima face make no logical sense. And I think you know it. Ipso factum logicaliaus (now I’m just doing it to annoy our GM) you’re scum. For all the reasons others listed and because I’ve finally figured out your style as Town.

[Chaqa]

The difference here is scum has already tainted me with their Day 1 absences and damo causing a tie two days ago. You don't have to do as much work, you can just coast and win by lynching me.

Then why am I engaging at all. You questions prima face make no logical sense. And I think you know it. Ipso factum logicaliaus (now I’m just doing it to annoy our GM) you’re scum. For all the reasons others listed and because I’ve finally figured out your style as Town.

You're going to be sorely disappointed when I flip town, then.

You do make a good point, though. I suppose scum would be content and laid back here, not prodding.

Is it possible we've missed something and scum is like Tom/kgray or Bozo/Vecna?

[BunnyGo]

The difference here is scum has already tainted me with their Day 1 absences and damo causing a tie two days ago. You don't have to do as much work, you can just coast and win by lynching me.

Then why am I engaging at all. You questions prima face make no logical sense. And I think you know it. Ipso factum logicaliaus (now I’m just doing it to annoy our GM) you’re scum. For all the reasons others listed and because I’ve finally figured out your style as Town.

You're going to be sorely disappointed when I flip town, then.

You do make a good point, though. I suppose scum would be content and laid back here, not prodding.

Is it possible we've missed something and scum is like Tom/kgray or Bozo/Vecna?

If you flip town, I’ll be disappointed yet again. (Both for losing and for continuing to not understand your plays)

Those teams are possible. Kgray I’m less suspicious of these days. Bozo/vecna seems possible. I’m at work on phone, and haven’t done vote analysis.

The day chat screws up a lot of analysis. They can coordinate there, so it’s not one person to track and analyze. It’s 3 (now 2)