Mafia Olympics - Gold Medal Game- Fantasy Football - Official Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Rosters lookin like

QB Bunny
RB1 Kak Prescott
RB2 damo
WR1 rdr/ghug
WR2 Glitter
TE bozo
FLEX Will
D/ST Worcej
K sweet
I/R Bona

[bozotheclown]

What I did: Read the thread from my sub message to the newest message.

Then I got to busy and didn't do anything else, even kind of forgot about the game.

Then just a little before EoD, I remembered I needed to play the game, but I was super busy and was only able to read at about 30 minutes before EoD.

Then I read the setup and the thread a bit and belched out a quick roster.

Then you tried bullying me into making a roster that pleased you, but my wife came home early and I needed to help her, so I was gone for the last few minutes before EoD.

I don't understand how you could read the four hours you say you read and not be interested enough in what was being discussed to try to understand the setup, or why you would not start with reading the setup.

After you read the setup with 20 minutes left in D1, did you understand the importance of the vote for certain positions not ended in a tie?

I didn't read four hours, I just read a handful or two of pages. Then I got busy and forgot about the game.

Idk if I "understood the importance" of not tieing, but it's certainly intuitive to me that it would make sense to properly fill the roster.

I had no idea what the votes were at, so I didn't understand the impact of any of my roster choices, and I was concerned with filling one out on time to not be modkilled. Which I barely did in time.

I heard discussion about TFB being mod killed, so I thought voting them would be low impact since who would actually vote for TFB in that situation? I didn't want my random roster to impact the game, since I had no idea about anything.

You said here that you read all of the posts after you subbed in:

Update:

Still haven't read the setup, assume it is D1. Have read all posts after my sub in. It seems Will is trying to zoomer duel Bona?

Bozo is trying to puddify us all with mech stuff.

That's about it.

I'm going to be honest; I'm happy to be subbing but my attention right now is strongly focused elsewhere. Consequently I am not sure I will bother doing much more than maybe skimming what's been said before.

I did not realize this was 17 players, I thought it would be another pseudo-dead Olympics game that could be read in a few minutes.

100% will read the setup and figure out mechs, but definitely not going to engage with boring mech plan stuff. Let's focus on the actual players and not the mechs for once, FFS.

How did you mean that if you had not read all of the posts in the 4 hours between subbing in and making that post?

[bozotheclown]

Preliminary question before asking something for this quote - bozo, do you think this setup is town sided?

no

Okay, so do you think scum are more inclined to open wolf this setup?

Probably as a generalization, depending on the players who are mafia.

[Fluminator]

Here is what concerns me. You posted this is response to Fluminator:

Did you think damo and I were wanting to ignore the voting scheme for the other roles?

Yes. Damo clearly didn’t understand anything.

You’ve been weird. I couldn’t tell what you wanted.

However, the post you were defending was this:

Ah nice. Vote normally and whoever is lead wagon at say T-2 hours must be put in as #10 on your roster. Detract at your peril.

I think towns greatest weapon is the voting scheme this game and I’d hate to detract from it.

That post was about 1 hour into the game, when damo and Fluminator had only made 5 posts each. Therefore, it seems you were defending that post based on your assessment of damo and Fluminator that occurred after that post.

The second concern I have with that post is that I do not understand your assessment of damo and Fluminator.

Yeah, I'm never fully getting over this. I see his answer but he was talking out of his butt with his original answer. I don't think it's enough to kill him, but I'm definitely keeping an eye out for more slips.

[Fluminator]

I'll switch to TFB at this point if he's dead anyway.

This aged very badly and wasn’t great at the time. @Flum were you townreading kak for a particular reason?

Hoe do you know if this was good or bad without knowing Kakarroto's alignment?

I do think a Kak/Bunny scumteam is very possible

[Fluminator]

Catching up a bit, saw a lot of people asked for me. I'm somewhat fine, just not feeling too good right now. Heavy temperature drop and a snow warning for the inner city made me crawl up in my bed. Didn't feel too good before that and said so last game (I think it was my last ingame post, somewhere at the end), though I didn't plan to do so little at first. But I had stuff to do and just didn't feel to say much to the heavy meach discussion and the cold drove me away, so yeah.

I'm a bit surprised how that day went though. When I went to bed, I thought I was dead. Don't know how to think about that exactly. Mafia wouldn't want to look bad on misvoting me, I guess, but I was an easy extra target with how TFB didn't vote. But town wouldn't bother too much to misvote a town on day one anyway? I'll have to think more about that, but for now, I'll trust my first gut there.

so here for now my first vote, so ##official roster

1 QB 1 (one shot watcher) - glitterbomb

2 RB 1 (rb'ed) - bozo

3 RB 2 (rb'ed) - sweet

4 WR 1 (no 1qb/tracker tomorrow) - RD

5 WR 2 (no 8doc tomorrow) - Brian

6 TE (bodyguard for 8dst/doc) - col7by

7 FLEX (one shot joat) - worcej

8 D/ST (one shot doc) - bunny

9 K (no 7 flex tomorrow, never 9 kick again) - (kick it like) Kak

10 I/R (vote out) - Flum


still want to see bunny save. Don't want to give bozo any special powers today. Pretty sure glitter is town and we should listen more to her. Want to check what worcej does as flex. Think flum is more likely mafia than sweet from the late switchers/voters. Also, don't vote bona, pretty sure he's town. Damo probably too, but not too sure about that. Would like to see what Will does with a role too, but don't have enough slots for now. And give me the darn kick, I'll score us a fieldgoal, I promise.

Other than that, I'll come back tomorrow. Did promise yoyo to continue our civ game, and that is what actually gives me the push to stay out of bed for now. The day can't end early as far as I've read anyway, if I understood it correctly? So bye for now, or say hi in the voice chat later.

Are you serious? If I was scum and you were town, why would I not go for 3 town deaths? Am I going to have to wait 24 hours for a reply to this?

[Col7by]

I’m fine being TE today if needed but I think Kai would be good at TE.
IF man flips town we could deduce that one of the people trying elim them day 1 is scum trying to get another miskill in addition to TFB getting modkilled. I think it’s a safe way to test and get reads for tonight

[Fluminator]

I’m fine being TE today if needed but I think Kai would be good at TE.
IF man flips town we could deduce that one of the people trying elim them day 1 is scum trying to get another miskill in addition to TFB getting modkilled. I think it’s a safe way to test and get reads for tonight

Why only make him the TE? Why not I/R? Who do you want in I/R?

[Fluminator]

Please tell me this is Bunny/Kak being scum, and trolling me with such bad reasons as revenge for me winning last game as scum against them.

[Col7by]

So, you think ghug shot Jamie within seconds of learning his Flex power and mafia holstered or also targeted Jamie.

Right.

What are you implying with your "Right?"

It was a mistake re timing. However if ghug shot Jamie did mafia holster or also target Jamie?

Or a doc save but those would be the options to consider

[Col7by]

Why did you choose to not take any action on this?

I never needed to

Were you just looking at RB1 to decide if you needed to enter an updated roster?

Basically but I wasn’t going to vote you into QB either since I was against it so just making sure you weren’t RB1 so someone got the role. I also wasn’t on for the hour before EOD so couldn’t decide on last minute changes

[Fluminator]

Tentative unofficial roster

QB rdr
RB1 sweet
RB2 Will
WR1 worcej
WR2 bozo
TE Col7by
Flex Flum
DST bunny
K ghug
IR Bona

If I get Flex and a gun, I'm shooting Kak. Vote me if you want that.

[ghug]

Towncasing myself here; Do we think I would propose the two power compromise as mafia? No. I would just let town argue for days

Eh, town was lovely to argue for days anyway.

>:(

Likely, even.

[Col7by]

Please tell me this is Bunny/Kak being scum, and trolling me with such bad reasons as revenge for me winning last game as scum against them.

IR is reasonable but I think we have bigger fish to take a shot at with it. Someone who is controlling conversation more and could be bigger blow to scum team

[ghug]

Hamilton was very helpful at D1 EOD in making sure we avoided ties in the critical positions, while a number of players who were active at EOD seemed to be ignoring that risk. I think Hamilton could easily do that as mafia to duplicate what he would do as town, but I did not see any reason to scum read him for it. The primary reason I am now concerned Hamilton could be mafia is the possibility that you are bussing him.

I know I take things personally and perseverate on things but it does seem like Bunny has made ONE scumread...and it's me.

I think anyone playing the game, and gets a mafia role, knows that...despite how town I appear...disparage me and throw suspicion at me but don't kill me.

False statement! I made one scum read THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGED BECAUSE IT WAS YOU

That's exactly what he said?

[ghug]

##official roster FINAL

1 QB 1 Glitterbomb

2 RB 1 Bunny

3 RB 2 bona

4 WR 1 worcej

5 WR 2 damo

6 TE Col7by

7 FLEX jamie

8 D/ST bozo

9 K sweetandcool

10 I/R Kak

Why did you choose Kakarroto over TFB for the DK vote?

Peer pressure I guess. I think I had damo originally, and it seemed there was some suspicious leanings on their thoughts/plans. Then ghug made the "vote kak for record keeping" and I ran with that.

Lol what

[ghug]

Do you think the Jamie NK was a coincidence because the mafia had already entered the NK, or do you think ghug threatening to shoot Jamie could have made the mafia change the NK to Jamie, if ghug is town?

I am somewhat concerned about the coincidence, because if Jamie had been my doctor target, it might have made me reconsider.

If I was watching Jamie and saw only ghug visit Jamie, what do you think that would mean?

Scum wouldn't have had much time to react so probably a coincidence.

If you saw ghug visit Jamie I expect he was tracking.

Does this mean that, ig ghug was tracking, they saw who killed Jamie?

Tracking would be checking to see who Jamie visited, not who visited him, so no.

[ghug]

Just looking at this again...

QB: Bozotheclown (4)
RB 1: BunnyGo (5)
RB 2: Bonatogether (5)
WR 1: Hamilton Brian (3)
Wr 2: Rdrivera2005 (4)
TE: worcej (6)
FLEX: Ghug (8)
D/ST: Bozotheclown (6)
K: Tie
I/R: TheFlyingBoat (5)

Does this mean that bozo was both watcher AND doc?
And do we then assume that neither Bunny or bona are responsible for the death of Jamie? So that doesn't eliminate either of them as potential suspects since there might be 2 or 3 other mafia around them to carry out the kill?

You all have probably covered this already but I am working on catching forward from last check-in.

You really think this is scum, Bunny?

This post, no.

I think it's specifically townish.

[bozotheclown]

Somewhat, yes. Certainly wasn't townreading him.

Hamilton was very helpful at D1 EOD in making sure we avoided ties in the critical positions, while a number of players who were active at EOD seemed to be ignoring that risk. I think Hamilton could easily do that as mafia to duplicate what he would do as town, but I did not see any reason to scum read him for it. The primary reason I am now concerned Hamilton could be mafia is the possibility that you are bussing him.

Were you scum reading me before this concern?

I thought Fluminator made a good point about your inconsistency with supporting/not supporting using the bot to track NK votes, then I asked one follow-up question about it, you went awhile without posting, and when you returned, you did not respond to my question. This is the reason for my initial concern you could be mafia. When you returned, you did help with with implementing the double PR option an avoiding ties, which I think was the appropriate thing to do as town. However, I would have done that if I was mafia, and I suspect you would as well, so I consider that part NAI for now.

Then there was this post, that seemed to imply I should have been protecting Jamie because of what ghug did for reasons that I do not understand:

It’s possible. We’ve seen scum!ghug publicly post something like that before. It amuses him. The lack of two kills makes me curious.

I could also see town!ghug doing this to bait mafia into thinking he got the vig shot instead of a track or vest.

Yes. But would work better if bozo saw and played along. And saved Jamie.

[bozotheclown]

Somewhat, yes. Certainly wasn't townreading him.

Hamilton was very helpful at D1 EOD in making sure we avoided ties in the critical positions, while a number of players who were active at EOD seemed to be ignoring that risk. I think Hamilton could easily do that as mafia to duplicate what he would do as town, but I did not see any reason to scum read him for it. The primary reason I am now concerned Hamilton could be mafia is the possibility that you are bussing him.

Were you scum reading me before this concern?

Can you provide more detail on why you suspected Hamilton?